Bailing out before season ends....

labanLB said:
To all the parents looking to switch their ulittle to another team before the season is over, good job teaching your kids to cur out before the season ends. It's freakin ulittle soccer not college soccer.
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Guilty as charged... twice.

Daughter was playing on a Boys team and I informed the coach that she would leave to go play National Cup on a Girls team.

After two seasons with the same team she left to go play post season with another team. This was after I had expressed my displeasure with the coach on how he handled a situation that involved us. I would have pulled my daughter immediately but you know, commitment first. Finish the season, then leave.
 
Funny that anyone would expect a high moral standard from a club player when clubs treat players as commodities rather than human beings. Survival of the the fittest is the name of the game in the highly unethical club soccer world!
 
Your kid ain't getting playing time?

The coach only subs the same players every game. The usual 5 or 6 never get subbed?

The coach doesn' want the kids dribbling or playing with ball. Just send it up.

Coach blames and gives long lame speeches after every loss.

Coach doesn't give a damn about Christiano Ronaldo??



DROP THE TEAM! Preferable in front of everybody during a game. Be very vocal too, don' forget to mention that this kick ball shit is the reason u.s. isn't in the world cup!
 
LOL, this what happens when we're not out on the field with our kids playing....

Bailing out THIS THREAD before season ends....
 
labanLB said:
To all the parents looking to switch their ulittle to another team before the season is over, good job teaching your kids to cur out before the season ends. It's freakin ulittle soccer not college soccer.
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Parents gotta do what they think is best for their kid, even if you don't think so. Plenty of legit reasons to pull a player from a team prior to when you think "the season ends". You come off as nothing more than a pissed off parent, team mom, or coach who's dreams of winning "Mayor's/Governor's/President's/Asst to the Travelling Secretary's Cup" were dashed by the departure of a player. Why do you give a shit enough to post here?

Hey INFAMEE, perfect time to bust out the crying baby pic. You dropped the ball here.
 
Season ends in Nov. If team applies for State/Nat Cup then kid is cup tied - if its a transfer from SCDSL to SCDSL club. If kid isnt happy, for various reasons, fine to move on. Sometimes not being able to play State Cup isnt the end of the world. Coach is paid to work with what they have - probably happier to know who is in and who is out. Ski trips, baseball, lacrosee, trips to Cern to blow up atoms or staying home to kill a FIFA18 league: reason is irrelevant. Messed up would be a parent saying "im in" and bailing weekend of State Cup. This isnt Champions League and State Cup isnt obligation. Would be awesome if those who could play would commit but not serious enough to go General Hospital on a youth soccer site
 
labanLB: You suck as a parent if you let your ulittle leave their team before SC. Right? Who’s with me?!!

Forum: Stop whining you idiot.

labanLB: Yeah!! Wait what?
 
labanLB said:
To all the parents looking to switch their ulittle to another team before the season is over, good job teaching your kids to cur out before the season ends. It's freakin ulittle soccer not college soccer.
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I value loyalty. I wish loyalty or integrity made any sense in the world of club soccer. The club does what’s best for the club, a parent has to do what’s best for their player. There are many ways to teach work ethic and follow through to your child. Forcing them to play soccer on a team thats a poor fit is not one of them. Too many hours and too much money spent to stay in a situation that isn’t working.

Weve played on teams where coaches were actively recruiting players prior to state cup while at the same time giving current players less and less playing time- only minutes per game- at U9. OP are you suggesting that it’s ok for clubs and coaches not to honor their commitment to players on their teams but families should stay and honor theirs while their players suffer? What’s the lesson learned there? It’s a double standard.
 
labanLB said:
You are missing the point LBSoccer. This isn't college or the pros. What parents are teaching their kids is bail when things aren't going their way. Sounds like you are a part of the problem of this new generation. Bail when the ish get rough. How to be a coward 101.
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I’m sorry that the team broke up. We’ve all been there. It’s club soccer after all. Maybe the coach was great but too hard on the kiddos. Maybe the coach wasn’t great and parents left for better coaching. State cup is one weekend for most teams and a lot of fanfare and driving and only worth it if the team is committed.
 
smellycleats said:
I value loyalty. I wish loyalty or integrity made any sense in the world of club soccer. The club does what’s best for the club, a parent has to do what’s best for their player. There are many ways to teach work ethic and follow through to your child. Forcing them to play soccer on a team thats a poor fit is not one of them. Too many hours and too much money spent to stay in a situation that isn’t working.

Weve played on teams where coaches were actively recruiting players prior to state cup while at the same time giving current players less and less playing time- only minutes per game- at U9. OP are you suggesting that it’s ok for clubs and coaches not to honor their commitment to players on their teams but families should stay and honor theirs while their players suffer? What’s the lesson learned there? It’s a double standard.
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Brilliant response.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Sometimes it is just better to leave. The only loyalty that you need to have is to your own child. Unfortunately 95% of all clubs/coaches will do whatever is in their best interest. Do what is in your player's best interest especially at the younger ages. They are the most critical. If my daughter had stayed on her first club team I doubt that she would be playing D1 soccer now and clearly not because of her ability.

I pulled my player from her first club team 2 weeks into the league season due to the coach not holding up her end of the bargain. I told all the parents and that coach a month ahead of time if things don't change we weren't going to wait until the season ended and that they would be giving us a full refund. We got the refund, she moved to a team in the same division and proceeded to kick her old teams a$$ the couple of times that they played them that year.
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I agree, depending on the age of the player, 1 lost year is huge at 12-15.
 
I take the middle ground on this issue. If your club and coach have treated your child fairly stay until after State/National Cup when your sole reason is to find a higher performing team. However, if they have not been honest, your child's self esteem is involved or your fair that the coach will retaliate by benching your child for not signing up for a new season move.
 
At u9 was with a flight 3 team who's club had tryouts and offers given out months before state cup. 3 girls got offers on flight 2 teams 2 within the same club and 1 with another club. All 3 families stayed committed thru state cup bought hotel rooms in san diego for the first round weekend and all 3 girls were benched for large parts of all games and put in goal which none have ever played before and team got smashed 3 games.

This season u13 different club and team is blowing up it is already known long before national cup because once again these clubs have tryouts in nov and dec and offers are given out i have gotten 3 phone calls from the club wanting me to make my decision and at same time they are letting us know they hope we honor our obligation to finish remaining tournaments and nat cup. I am choosing to play and hoping she doesnt get benched out of respect for coach team and club but if some parents dont i dont blame them i been bit before and the clubs cause this chaos way too early vegas and national cup are expensive and after tryouts when on a team this is knowingly blowing up everyone is over it
 
And...I can't think of one job I worked at where I gave a 2 to 3 month notice of leaving. How awkward is it to make a kid stay on a team for 2 to 3 months when they have already committed to another team. I cannot think of one real work world example where that would be the case. In addition, since all of the clubs are doing early tryouts shouldn't the club get used to playing with what they will be playing with on an on going basis? As I understand it, State Cup is a tournament. There are many tournaments through out the year that people can't make for whatever reason. What is the difference?
 
I’m going to take a diff position that OP isn’t a coach. That’s what makes this worse. He’s a parent, and he really wanted to “win” state cup.

No offense, but state cup is nothing. 85% of the teams entering won’t/can’t win. If you do, who cares? Nobody remembers, it doesn’t mean much and I’ll bet you that within 2 years, at least 50% of the kids won’t be there. Within 4 years, 80% of team will be different.

Clubs are shady. Coaches are shady. Parents are shady. Whether it’s the coach sneakily building the new roster with new kids in december before you get to state:national up in Feb/March to clubs threatening you to sign or else, but being very vague in what you’re commitment actually is to parents trying to take “our core” to a “better team”.

I used to be a believer in stay the whole way through but I’ve also experience terrible situations. Try finishing a season with kids who have either signed elsewhere or know they are cut from the team starting the next week. It’s unpleasant. The kids are phoning it in, the coach is a jerk to some, and the parents are nasty. I’ve experienced this at all levels through ECNL.

Yes the system is broken because every part of the equation is out for their best interest. Clubs hold tryouts the next week after Thanksgiving. The coaches are scouting and recruiting all season, and little Stephanie’s dad is shopping her around and feverish emailing coaches.

I’ve always thought that the season should be considered full from March to December. Do Spring league or form your team, play your summer tourneys, start fall league in late August, run state/national cup in December.

Make the cal south cut off dec 31, and make January tryout and movement month with some moving ino February.

Now I know this won’t work, because there are too many tourneys in dec and Jan that would lose out to this plan. And we can’t have lost revenue.

So it will remain broken.
 
Great post! Wow. I agree soccer season is way too long. At ulittle there is no reason for the length of season and it's a shame to see what the Kids are losing out on. They push them to specialization and rather than specialize they quit
 
Josep said:
I’m going to take a diff position that OP isn’t a coach. That’s what makes this worse. He’s a parent, and he really wanted to “win” state cup.

No offense, but state cup is nothing. 85% of the teams entering won’t/can’t win. If you do, who cares? Nobody remembers, it doesn’t mean much and I’ll bet you that within 2 years, at least 50% of the kids won’t be there. Within 4 years, 80% of team will be different.

Clubs are shady. Coaches are shady. Parents are shady. Whether it’s the coach sneakily building the new roster with new kids in december before you get to state:national up in Feb/March to clubs threatening you to sign or else, but being very vague in what you’re commitment actually is to parents trying to take “our core” to a “better team”.

I used to be a believer in stay the whole way through but I’ve also experience terrible situations. Try finishing a season with kids who have either signed elsewhere or know they are cut from the team starting the next week. It’s unpleasant. The kids are phoning it in, the coach is a jerk to some, and the parents are nasty. I’ve experienced this at all levels through ECNL.

Yes the system is broken because every part of the equation is out for their best interest. Clubs hold tryouts the next week after Thanksgiving. The coaches are scouting and recruiting all season, and little Stephanie’s dad is shopping her around and feverish emailing coaches.

I’ve always thought that the season should be considered full from March to December. Do Spring league or form your team, play your summer tourneys, start fall league in late August, run state/national cup in December.

Make the cal south cut off dec 31, and make January tryout and movement month with some moving ino February.

Now I know this won’t work, because there are too many tourneys in dec and Jan that would lose out to this plan. And we can’t have lost revenue.

So it will remain broken.
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Yep. Those parents,coaches, kids who are ethical are usually the ones who get short end of the stick. Move state cup to Mid Dec-Mid Jan. Every kid released by mid Jan. Will elim much of the BS. But then youll get tryouts thanksgiving break. Haha
 
Not_that_Serious said:
Yep. Those parents,coaches, kids who are ethical are usually the ones who get short end of the stick. Move state cup to Mid Dec-Mid Jan. Every kid released by mid Jan. Will elim much of the BS. But then youll get tryouts thanksgiving break. Haha
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What about High School season (~December-February)?
 
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