Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

My DD is asking for a skateboard. I think I’ll get her one. Maybe I’ll get one too. What’s the worst that could happen?
I got my boy a pretty fast hoverboard during the shutdown. The most important lesson I learned was at my age, I don't balance as well or heal as quickly as my boy. Get all the necessary pads for yourself. :)
 
I'm confused, Dre... didn't you say your kid was schooling & balling in Tijuana? And I don't see ANY kids practicing in a way that's very beneficial... other than getting in some cardio and touches... but that's a whole lot better than their faces being shoved into a screen. I just think it's silly to restrict them to drills when, truth be told, they gather 6" apart, with no masks, on every water break. But I'm no doctor.
I agree the distancing at practice is a complete clusterfuck and the increase in screen time is definitely a problem with my kid.

My kid has online classes that she can take while in the Bay Area. Liga MX Femenil recently started up again but Fuerzas Basicas is still on hold. Coaches are checking in with my kid and encouraging her to stay active. Xolos recently sold Querataro and are finally investing in their women’s side so professional opportunities for women are definitely on the rise in California. Fuerzas Basicas is tentatively scheduled to resume this upcoming January. I’m actually not in a big rush to return to play because riding bikes and skateboarding are things that my kid has always been interested in but we never had time to do.
 
Tell that to the 10,000+ employees of Marriott that are furloughed. Just because you can stay in a hotel does not mean that they are at full employment. Agree to disagree but I’m working with facts and you “experiences”......have a nice day
What is funny is I have presented facts and you have presented opinions. I would love to see your facts!
 
Tell that to the 10,000+ employees of Marriott that are furloughed. Just because you can stay in a hotel does not mean that they are at full employment. Agree to disagree but I’m working with facts and you “experiences”......have a nice day

Hospitality has been crushed (for obvious reasons). In AZ, many resorts that rely on summer revenue (which many do) are just now opening up. Some opened up a bit earlier to capture the "staycation" dollars. That's 6 months of not generating $$$. How many employees will come back? How many found something else? Now to start the hiring process again. Hawaii comes to mind in terms of damage to the hospitality industry.

You mention Marriott. They are likely the most well run hospitality brand on the planet. Imagine what's going on with brands that are not so well run.

And of course, to tie it to youth soccer - the dollars lost in your neck of the woods due to cancellation of tournaments. Overall, the economy is suffering. Some sectors are booming, most are not. Lucky that the economy was as strong as it was pre-covid (not to get into an economics discussion!)
 
Economic impact of Covid quarantine:
- 35% of small businesses are shutting down
- Furloughs in all industries including state/government jobs
- 401k matching is going away for many companies
- Insurance rates are going to go up a lot ( My insurance agent told me that they are expecting big increases next year
- Price of basic goods are up and will continue to go up - This will create inflation in the coming year.
- Some private universities are shutting down
- In SoCal we will have some level of repeat of the 2007 housing crisis. I don't think it's going to be that harsh but many will begin to lose their homes.

Honestly, I don't know why either president will want to run for the upcoming 4 years. It's going to be a mess.
 
Look at the chart of consumer spending that I posted. I used my situation as an example but the chart of spending is fact. We are down but not to the dramatic impact that certain news stations and obviously certain posters have presented. Please present the facts you are using to support the information you shared.

I am not saying there hasn't been a huge impact but to say, as many of you are saying as well as certain news media that our economy is tanking and it will be devastating in the coming months is fear mongering. I am saying, look at the facts not guesses and reliance on media.

Are you really suggesting that there isn't going to be any negative long term economy affects with our current economic situation? seriously?
 
What is funny is I have presented facts and you have presented opinions. I would love to see your facts!
You’re saying it is an option that there is:
- a push to extend the Eviction Moratorium
- an extension to the Stimulus package by The government
- Marriott furloughed 10,000+ employees?

Um...ok.




 
Tell that to the 10,000+ employees of Marriott that are furloughed. Just because you can stay in a hotel does not mean that they are at full employment. Agree to disagree but I’m working with facts and you “experiences”......have a nice day
My sister has been in the hotel business for 25> years. She worked at one on the big ones around Disneyland/Convention Center. She was furloughed then laid off. That industry in that area is devastated.
 
So you think scheduling friendly games with Socal teams in Nevada and Arizona is the answer? You think parents would drive to play friendly matches?

I know families that drive 2 hours, one way, for practice twice a week. I wouldn't do it but they're out there. Megan Rapinoe drove 3 hours, one way, to practice. I wouldn't... but some are willing.
 
So you think scheduling friendly games with Socal teams in Nevada and Arizona is the answer? You think parents would drive to play friendly matches?

They are already driving here. Likely in an attempt to establish some sort of normalcy. Is it crazy to drive to AZ in August to play soccer - yes. Is it being done, yep. Are more of them coming in SEP, absolutely. And SEP is not a cool month.

Parents do crazy things in order to establish/re-establish balance in their family. Not all will do it, but many will. Back to the idea of having choices.
 
In the greater scheme of things youth sports is a very low priority, one of the last things to receive guidance, not even listed on what's open or not state on the State covid19 site.

I think almost everybody can agree that we want to see outdoor youth sports going again to include not only training but scrimmages and games also. Tournaments mixed response so it's the set those aside for now.

So what are we arguing about? Politics covid-19 health science, statistics,what other states, nations are doing, categorizing people of this or that.

The bigger picture is working together not arguing on what? Buliding the bridges and removing the road blocks.

The camp workaround was a temporary bridge that was worked for some, the state youth sports guidance came down creating more roadblocks.

So how to we make forward progress? Either get the state youth sports guidance updated or work with local heath depts to create more bridges or remove the roadblocks. Hopefully some of the sanctioning bodies will work with the clubs to get this done. For example how about purposing allowing youth sports outdoor scrimmages for counties outside the widespread or purple classification for x weeks and then progressing to games after x more if those places stay in the moderate class or something?

Let's find more solutions less arguments, covid19 is not going away and we need to get on with it, we've learned to live with everything else so now it's time to move forward and do something. If we have to modify things like Massachusetts so be it but let's not get stuck on the semantics or the arguments. Outdoor youth sports is lower risk when when people don't congregate so space the games out and make people sit 6ft apart just like they do at restaurants for example, create a cleaning hygiene routine, etc.
Well said and I agree with your sentiment. I also agree that our youth sports associations, particularly Cal South, should be doing more. Whatever you think about Surf, kudos for them for pushing the issue (even if its driven more by money than child welfare). The fact of the matter is there are counties, in particular San Diego, that have pushed hard with comprehensive plans for youth sports only to be ignored. The science is overwhelming for in-person school and for youth sports (which my priority is school and we likely won't have youth sports until school is back full time, which for some counties like LA is a long way off). So if the science isn't sufficient how is any organization going to convince the state to reopen youth sports? Schools are not open for political reasons and other organizations just don't have the power of the special interests that are keeping them closed (I won't go any further due to the fact that politics are verboten, but please look at the timing of the state's decision to close down schools). Maybe soccer moms and middle aged dads should be burning shit down to get attention, which is the technique du jour, although that's really not our gig.

The bickering back and forth that you're seeing is due to complete frustration by parents. Like someone said, don't mess with our kids. Kids are taking the brunt of the lock down policies. Parents are pissed that special interest groups, and not science, are driving decisions. Parents are pissed that certain leaders can't, or choice not to, see the bigger picture and can't comprehend, both the short term and long term, societal problems that are created from keeping kids out of school. Parents are pissed that they aren't being given the option to choose to send their kids back to school, or not. If the rioting in the streets this summer is not an indication of what happens due to a lack of education, I don't know what is. As a society we can't afford to interrupt our youths' education.
 
This is a moronic statement at best. Why do you assume that because someone doesn't want to drive states away for a friendly, they are "hiding in their basement"?
Stay away from my families freedoms. Saying that we utilize common sense and do the following: wash our hands continuously, wear a mask when needed, don’t eat bats, dogs, cat, or uncooked foods. Also, fear breeds itself into hysteria, and I’m not panicking. Demonstrating to my kids that I’m a leader of the fam without making decisions out of that panic...
 
The government is NOT providing current stimulus money and stopped providing it July 25 in California.

Are people not taking vacations because of shut downs or because of fear? You can stay in any hotel you want right now.

Except all the hotels that are shut down, right?
 
Hospitality has been crushed (for obvious reasons). In AZ, many resorts that rely on summer revenue (which many do) are just now opening up. Some opened up a bit earlier to capture the "staycation" dollars. That's 6 months of not generating $$$. How many employees will come back? How many found something else? Now to start the hiring process again. Hawaii comes to mind in terms of damage to the hospitality industry.

You mention Marriott. They are likely the most well run hospitality brand on the planet. Imagine what's going on with brands that are not so well run.

And of course, to tie it to youth soccer - the dollars lost in your neck of the woods due to cancellation of tournaments. Overall, the economy is suffering. Some sectors are booming, most are not. Lucky that the economy was as strong as it was pre-covid (not to get into an economics discussion!)
You’re saying it is an option that there is:
- a push to extend the Eviction Moratorium
- an extension to the Stimulus package by The government
- Marriott furloughed 10,000+ employees?

Um...ok.
Okay...I didn't disagree with what you said about Marriott. I disagreed about the impact that plays in the TOTAL economy going forward and as I stated, no one is preventing people from staying in hotels. People are CHOOSING not to do it.

There is no current active stimulus package and there hasn't been one since July 25 in California. In case you aren't aware, it wasn't approved.

okay....what does that prove?

My original point was to show that the fear mongering by certain news and various people on here is not based on fact. I never said the economy wasn't significantly impacted. We are already in recovery as you can see a V shape recovery occurring in spending. We are also seeing that in employment. The more we decrease the spread, the more consumer confidence will return as we are already seeing in the FACTS I presented.
 
Hey I seem to remember you saying that due to covid no way were Cal teams going to be playing NV and AZ teams. Too risky. They were not going to get in a car and stay in a hotel, etc.

I see over the past few weeks increasing numbers of Cal clubs coming out already, or scheduled to come out in the coming weeks.

What happened bro? A few days ago you posted that you have never been wrong on this forum before.

I believe I said there wouldn’t be ECNL games. I can’t stop stupid people from going rogue and doing stupid things, however. I will admit, though, that I did not anticipate AZ would be so stupid as to reopen and encourage transmission of Covid to/from other states this early. That was a major miscalculation, and I should have known better than to expect much from AZ.

I also never said I’ve never been wrong. I admitted I was wrong about the WNT lawsuit (for now anyway). See, unlike some people, I can admit when I was wrong.
 
Stay away from my families freedoms. Saying that we utilize common sense and do the following: wash our hands continuously, wear a mask when needed, don’t eat bats, dogs, cat, or uncooked foods. Also, fear breeds itself into hysteria, and I’m not panicking. Demonstrating to my kids that I’m a leader of the fam without making decisions out of that panic...

"Sharon... what did Chief just say?"

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This is a moronic statement at best. Why do you assume that because someone doesn't want to drive states away for a friendly, they are "hiding in their basement"?
Exactly, for most of us, but for someone who is trying to live vicariously through their child and doesn't understand that a kid can pick up a book, it's perfectly normal.
 
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