Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Emma said:
While I support your position that the state should open up outdoor sports and schools, I disagree with your rhetoric regarding snitches and CA. We are not a country/state that expects our citizens to shut up and sit down or start calling them snitches or bitches because they are willing to stand up and voice their concerns. I know a lot of people who do not want schools open or sports open and they have very legitimate concerns. We don't have to agree on everything and most issues are not black and white, especially this one. The least we can do is respect each other. For some, it's life or death of their loved ones - think how strongly you would feel if your daughter or wife has a high potential of dying from this? They should feel strongly about it.
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Yes, I know many of them too. They all have____________________________________________________________and life is not fair. Some folks just need to get used to it.
 
Emma said:
While I support your position that the state should open up outdoor sports and schools, I disagree with your rhetoric regarding snitches and CA. We are not a country/state that expects our citizens to shut up and sit down or start calling them snitches or bitches because they are willing to stand up and voice their concerns. You don't want to hear it, unfriend them or block them. I know a lot of people who do not want schools open or sports open and they have very legitimate concerns. We don't have to agree on everything and most issues are not black and white, especially this one. The least we can do is respect each other. For some, it's life or death of their loved ones - think how strongly you would feel if your daughter or wife has a high potential of dying from this? They should feel strongly about it.
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Here’s the issue (s). Don’t mess with my kids life. Stop school— stop youth sports, who does that? A disturbed governor that’s who. If ur not comfortable stay home simple. Don’t mess with kids. Period.
 
Emma said:
While I support your position that the state should open up outdoor sports and schools, I disagree with your rhetoric regarding snitches and CA. We are not a country/state that expects our citizens to shut up and sit down or start calling them snitches or bitches because they are willing to stand up and voice their concerns. You don't want to hear it, unfriend them or block them. I know a lot of people who do not want schools open or sports open and they have very legitimate concerns. We don't have to agree on everything and most issues are not black and white, especially this one. The least we can do is respect each other. For some, it's life or death of their loved ones - think how strongly you would feel if your daughter or wife has a high potential of dying from this? They should feel strongly about it.
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I respect your position. However what if a high risk person can stay at home, buy groceries online, keep kids at home to do zoom school, work from home. If this person can do this, then why not allow the rest of the county to open up. Allow those who are not at risk to go to work, kids can go to school, and let them play. Your family can be get isolated but let others continue with their lives. I was scare and stayed at home for 4 months. I’m done now with this. Covid is not going away anytime soon. This is going to be like the flu every year. It’s clearly more dangerous than the flu. The problem I have is that we are allowing people to lose their jobs, homes, and mental health to protect those at risk. This is the wrong approach. Let’s protect those who are at risk and isolate them and help them stay safe. All others can go back to work. I am even ok with the mask thing when I go out. I just cannot accept another 9 months of quarantine.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
I respect your position. However what if a high risk person can stay at home, buy groceries online, keep kids at home to do zoom school, work from home. If this person can do this, then why not allow the rest of the county to open up. Allow those who are not at risk to go to work, kids can go to school, and let them play. Your family can be get isolated but let others continue with their lives. I was scare and stayed at home for 4 months. I’m done now with this. Covid is not going away anytime soon. This is going to be like the flu every year. It’s clearly more dangerous than the flu. The problem I have is that we are allowing people to lose their jobs, homes, and mental health to protect those at risk. This is the wrong approach. Let’s protect those who are at risk and isolate them and help them stay safe. All others can go back to work. I am even ok with the mask thing when I go out. I just cannot accept another 9 months of quarantine.
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I'm in the same position as you. I've been roaming around as much as anyone possibly in quarantine could. Don't turn me in but if you do, I'll own it and won't blame you. Some can't stay home if schools are open bc they work for the schools. It's not always possible for them if they are the primary caretaker of a person at risk. Think Grace - she has to move back to LA bc there's no one to watch her kids. Imagine Grace with a kid or husband or dad/mom who is currently needing her.

I do think we need to sit together and figure out what are the best ways to protect people and the best ways to get people to get back into normal activities.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
I respect your position. However what if a high risk person can stay at home, buy groceries online, keep kids at home to do zoom school, work from home. If this person can do this, then why not allow the rest of the county to open up. Allow those who are not at risk to go to work, kids can go to school, and let them play. Your family can be get isolated but let others continue with their lives. I was scare and stayed at home for 4 months. I’m done now with this. Covid is not going away anytime soon. This is going to be like the flu every year. It’s clearly more dangerous than the flu. The problem I have is that we are allowing people to lose their jobs, homes, and mental health to protect those at risk. This is the wrong approach. Let’s protect those who are at risk and isolate them and help them stay safe. All others can go back to work. I am even ok with the mask thing when I go out. I just cannot accept another 9 months of quarantine.
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It's hitting everyone hard today. This is big time stuff now. I know people who were ____________________________________yesterday and now their saying their going to________________________________ and that they've had enough.
 
Glitterhater said:
There is no way they can keep us locked down for several more months, right? Sports aside-we are now talking about the livelihood of many, many people.
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This has been the issue since early on.

We are killing biz and livelihoods.

At some point we deal with the hand dealt. About 43% of deaths are people 80+ who make up 0.6% of the population.

To blanket shut things down vs targeting the actual people at risk is madness.

The overwhelming majority of people have virtually no risk. And yet our politicians create policies that treat everyone as the same risk.
 
For youth sports, all the different sports should get together and put together a comprehensive plan on how they will protect their employees, players, and parents. Submit a proposal to the governor and mayors on how their individual steps and how they will be able to make this work for everyone without punishing the ones with weak immune systems or their caretakers. It would create a bigger voting block and would preempt any concerns the governor might have for the state's citizens.

The teachers/school employees need to be able to have protective gear and be able to opt out without financial punishment or career punishments. This should include private schools. No one should have the power to force people back to teach if they are fearful of their lives. If at that point, we have enough teachers/staff to run schools with the amount of kids who would like to do in class learning, then we move on from their and plan it with what we have for the rest of the year. If we don't have enough teachers/staff who can come back, then we have to be a little bit more patient and do the best we can. Everyone is stressed and everyone is tired but we don't have to make it worse for each other.
 
All of this has been very evident from the beginning. I warned you a week ago the @EOTL ‘s of the world won. Time for us to step up and become the Harriet Tubman of our times. The underground railroad thrived because people were brave enough to stand up to the oppressors. Hopefully 50 years from now we will be looked at as the brave souls that saved the kids!
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
I respect your position. However what if a high risk person can stay at home, buy groceries online, keep kids at home to do zoom school, work from home. If this person can do this, then why not allow the rest of the county to open up. Allow those who are not at risk to go to work, kids can go to school, and let them play. Your family can be get isolated but let others continue with their lives. I was scare and stayed at home for 4 months. I’m done now with this. Covid is not going away anytime soon. This is going to be like the flu every year. It’s clearly more dangerous than the flu. The problem I have is that we are allowing people to lose their jobs, homes, and mental health to protect those at risk. This is the wrong approach. Let’s protect those who are at risk and isolate them and help them stay safe. All others can go back to work. I am even ok with the mask thing when I go out. I just cannot accept another 9 months of quarantine.
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This.

Time to deal with who is at risk vs those who are not. High risk stay home. The rest of us? We can work, go to school, etc. Treating everyone as if they have the same risk is idiotic. Not science based.
 
Emma said:
For youth sports, all the different sports should get together and put together a comprehensive plan on how they will protect their employees, players, and parents. Submit a proposal to the governor and mayors on how their individual steps and how they will be able to make this work for everyone without punishing the ones with weak immune systems or their caretakers. It would create a bigger voting block and would preempt any concerns the governor might have for the state's citizens.
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It's already been done. On June 26, San Diego County submitted a comprehensive plan to the Governor restart youth sports. To date its been ignored by the Governor.
 
Emma said:
For youth sports, all the different sports should get together and put together a comprehensive plan on how they will protect their employees, players, and parents. Submit a proposal to the governor and mayors on how their individual steps and how they will be able to make this work for everyone without punishing the ones with weak immune systems or their caretakers. It would create a bigger voting block and would preempt any concerns the governor might have for the state's citizens.

The teachers/school employees need to be able to have protective gear and be able to opt out without financial punishment or career punishments. This should include private schools. No one should have the power to force people back to teach if they are fearful of their lives. If at that point, we have enough teachers/staff to run schools with the amount of kids who would like to do in class learning, then we move on from their and plan it with what we have for the rest of the year. If we don't have enough teachers/staff who can come back, then we have to be a little bit more patient and do the best we can. Everyone is stressed and everyone is tired but we don't have to make it worse for each other.
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ok so long as you apply the same standard to everyone else: grocery workers, taxi and bus drivers, air con guys and plumbers, dental hygienists, garbage collectors, waiters and construction workers
 
Grace T. said:
ok so long as you apply the same standard to everyone else: grocery workers, taxi and bus drivers, air con guys and plumbers, dental hygienists, garbage collectors, waiters and construction workers
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I do. It should be that way for everyone who works in a job that requires a lot of physical interaction at long period of times - especially those that can't stop themselves from grabbing on to you or hugging you. Kids are cute but they're handsy.
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watfly said:
It's already been done. On June 26, San Diego County submitted a comprehensive plan to the Governor restart youth sports. To date its been ignored by the Governor.
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It needs to be done throughout CA - not just one county. Did you hear about the OC team going to Oceanside? Not that I blame them. I would have done the same! I'm actually very proud of San Diegans. For the most part, we've really been able to balance our needs and potentially saving people. I'm just as frustrated with this situation and I'd like the dialogue to happen more often. I don't this is happening enough but then we did get 12,000 lightning strikes so priorities might not be on youth sports at the moment unless we get a large voting block to put pressure on the Governor.

It's also true that if we all just have tons of scrimmages at public parks, no one will get in trouble. Just respect your fellow neighbors who may be stressed out about their family member's health or their own health and wear masks along with social distance. Even if you don't believe in it or don't like it, it might save a life and will make someone less stressed.
 
Emma said:
For youth sports, all the different sports should get together and put together a comprehensive plan on how they will protect their employees, players, and parents. Submit a proposal to the governor and mayors on how their individual steps and how they will be able to make this work for everyone without punishing the ones with weak immune systems or their caretakers. It would create a bigger voting block and would preempt any concerns the governor might have for the state's citizens.

The teachers/school employees need to be able to have protective gear and be able to opt out without financial punishment or career punishments. This should include private schools. No one should have the power to force people back to teach if they are fearful of their lives. If at that point, we have enough teachers/staff to run schools with the amount of kids who would like to do in class learning, then we move on from their and plan it with what we have for the rest of the year. If we don't have enough teachers/staff who can come back, then we have to be a little bit more patient and do the best we can. Everyone is stressed and everyone is tired but we don't have to make it worse for each other.
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Cali got what they voted for. Lesson's will be learned by this. Remember, what comes around goes around. Rules will be followed.
 
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