Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
 
Grace T. said:
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
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And didn’t the color coding move to state wide instead of county wide?
 
Grace T. said:
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
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Yet barbershops and hairsalons will be open even in purple counties. In Ventura county, it means short of a waiver schools will be closed at least for another 5 weeks. And LA County has announced no waivers.
 
Here's the Deadline article summarizing. From what I gather individual guidance for each tier will be published soon so say if you are a soccer coach or a hair salon owner you can look at what's allowed in your area. But given schools have 2+ weeks added to whatever conditions, and given virtually the entire state is now purple, I personally think this is the nail in the soccer season. If it takes 3-5 weeks to a review a condition we are already into October people. No soccer for SoCal (except maybe San Diego if the numbers turn downward radically before the September 8 review date)

deadline.com

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom Reveals Stricter, “Slower” COVID-19 Reopening Guidelines For Businesses And Schools

Gavin Newsom's new "simple, stringent and slow" COVID framework has four tiers with colors attached to them indicating severity.
deadline.com deadline.com
 
Grace T. said:
Here's the Deadline article summarizing. From what I gather individual guidance for each tier will be published soon so say if you are a soccer coach or a hair salon owner you can look at what's allowed in your area. But given schools have 2+ weeks added to whatever conditions, and given virtually the entire state is now purple, I personally think this is the nail in the soccer season. If it takes 3-5 weeks to a review a condition we are already into October people. No soccer for SoCal (except maybe San Diego if the numbers turn downward radically before the September 8 review date)

deadline.com

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom Reveals Stricter, “Slower” COVID-19 Reopening Guidelines For Businesses And Schools

Gavin Newsom's new "simple, stringent and slow" COVID framework has four tiers with colors attached to them indicating severity.
deadline.com deadline.com
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The markers keep getting moved in the game of life. Real tough times ahead everyone. Stay safe and soccer is the least of our worries.
 
Here's how rough the standards are. There is no "green" tier for return to normal life. It's purple/red/orange/yellow. To get yellow you need to get less than 1 case per 100,000. So LA County would need to report less than 90 cases per day. LA County reported 1,604 cases yesterday.

It also means unless the vaccine is about 90-93% effective or above and compliance is somewhere in the neighborhood of 85-95% in taking the vaccine, or unless the thing somehow herd immunities and magically disappears (very unlikely) we are looking at restrictions FOR YEARS into the future.
 
The way this works out to movie theatres, hair salons, and indoor dining (but not bars, but yes winieries outdoors) will be open before schools resume.

The governor specifically said there is no green level because he does not foresee any return to normal any time in the near future.

For professional sports, restrictions such as testing and live audiences continue even into the yellow zone which means youth sports are now in question even for fall 2021.
 
Grace T. said:
The way this works out to movie theatres, hair salons, and indoor dining (but not bars, but yes winieries outdoors) will be open before schools resume.

The governor specifically said there is no green level because he does not foresee any return to normal any time in the near future.

For professional sports, restrictions such as testing and live audiences continue even into the yellow zone which means youth sports are now in question even for fall 2021.
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Hopefully other states opening with more businesses going back to normal it will put immense pressure on California to Buck this new system in a few months time. If not 2022 may be the states fresh start.
 
The elementary school(s) where I live are closed but yet the after school day care at the same school(s) are open. Strange.
 
Grace T. said:
Here's how rough the standards are. There is no "green" tier for return to normal life. It's purple/red/orange/yellow. To get yellow you need to get less than 1 case per 100,000. So LA County would need to report less than 90 cases per day. LA County reported 1,604 cases yesterday.

It also means unless the vaccine is about 90-93% effective or above and compliance is somewhere in the neighborhood of 85-95% in taking the vaccine, or unless the thing somehow herd immunities and magically disappears (very unlikely) we are looking at restrictions FOR YEARS into the future.
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I don’t follow your argument on the vaccine.

A 70% effective vaccine used by 70% of the population would cut Rt in half. That, combined with masks, is more than enough to get Rt well below 1. (meaning that the number of cases would be declining exponentially)
 
Grace T. said:
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
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So does this put OC and San Diego back to the watch list for another week? I honestly can’t wrap my head around the reasoning at all......
 
RT has been below 1 in CA since early July. And below 1 in LA County since July 28th. Yesterday it hit .82....I don’t understand why we aren’t moving in the direction of opening?
 
Grace T. said:
by County OC is now purple too. No schools there any time soon. But most of the state is purple because the metrics just got tougher.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1299433996367982593
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GraceT. I reviewed the new tier information on the State website. I'm I understanding this correctly? So if your Purple you have to wait 5 weeks once your numbers qualify for Red before you could return to school. I.e. 3 weeks to move tiers plus 2 weeks in the tier before you could reopen?
 
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