Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Good news that people didn't die, bad news is that if people get it they suffer big time. Does this enter your thinking process in any way? Do you know anyone who has had symptoms? People I know who have had it felt like they were going to die, and they weren't ventilated or anything. The best thing to do is just not get it.
yes i know someone....me. The people you know are the older younger heavy, have other issues because those all play into the severity. I never said it doesn't suck even the regular flu sucks bad but everyone is different. I wouldn't recommend getting it especially if you have other issues always protect yourself but if you are young and healthy you will recover.
 
yes i know someone....me. The people you know are the older younger heavy, have other issues because those all play into the severity. I never said it doesn't suck even the regular flu sucks bad but everyone is different. I wouldn't recommend getting it especially if you have other issues always protect yourself but if you are young and healthy you will recover.
The way it was explained to me by my friend who is a doctor, it is about health issues, but not as much as a viral load you are getting. In simple terms it makes a huge difference whether someone who is sick sneezes on you 1 time or 10 times.
 
Victim?
You people are the victims.
Yes, they do.

Your kids want to leave, yeah right. LMAO. Did you forget that all of us on here have kids?

Your like that DA parent who answered for their kid and said his kid would rather train for 4 months on her own than have a blast playing high school soccer because HS soccer was beneath her.

Brother, when you ask a kid if they would like to go to Disneyland and they say “no,” they are lying!
 
I guess they don't love soccer enough. EDP on the east coast apparently does. Maybe the people who run Surf Cup Sports need to be consulted to help run CA. It's possible they will make better use of the money than politicians do. Politicians rarely know how to balance a checkbook or draw on sound economic principles to achieve any type of fiscal success.

You know that’s 10 trillion spent by the federal government right, not California?
 
Your kids want to leave, yeah right. LMAO. Did you forget that all of us on here have kids?

We have to return to California since I have to get some medical tests run (would have to restart them in Salt Lake from scratch plus there's no one to take custody of the kids).

Younger one is literally crying that he doesn't want to go back.
 
You know that’s 10 trillion spent by the federal government right, not California?

Ha, yes. I think it's actually closer to 7.4T but close enough. To your point, that is a ton of money. And, if you look at it, not all of it has been spent yet - government bean counters (at all levels) at their finest. My point is that government isn't the best steward of resources, especially our tax dollars, never has been, never will be. Think about this - I lived in NJ for about five years. I paid insane property taxes, and I mean insane. My township 100% relied on volunteer EMS. There was literally a siren that went off to alert the "on duty" volunteer firefighters and EMS personnel that their services were needed. Ahh, our tax dollars at work - efficiently and expertly managed to increase everyone's quality of life.
 
You do know most of that went to extra unemployment benefits, right?
In some ways, this is government in direct competition with small business for labor. I'm all for government being a bridge during a crisis, it's why government exists. I know there are different situations across the board and my statement generalizes, but the impact on small business is staggering. And just wait for the tax bill to hit on the unemployment benefits received for 2020.
 
You do know most of that went to extra unemployment benefits, right?

Relevance? And technically not correct, the treasury has spent around 4 trillion in purchasing government securities. After that, I'm not sure how the stimulus part of it broke down between unemployment v. $1200 checks. So you may be right with respect to the stimulus part of it, but I think it's relatively close.

I mentioned the feds because he appeared to be throwing shade on California. And I'm not saying California does not warrant some shade. The point is that after having spent 7.4 trillion+ and counting, where only slightly better off than many months ago. If we had done things as some Harvard experts suggested, I believe we could have saved at least 4-5 trillion AND been in a much better place.
 
We have to return to California since I have to get some medical tests run (would have to restart them in Salt Lake from scratch plus there's no one to take custody of the kids).

Younger one is literally crying that he doesn't want to go back.

So your kid wanted out of California before the pandemic? Your kid doesn't want to come back because he knows he's going to have to hear you whine and complain 24/7.
 
So your kid wanted out of California before the pandemic? Your kid doesn't want to come back because he knows he's going to have to hear you whine and complain 24/7.


Between fires, protests down the street (he spent one night cowering under a desk), getting doxxed and screamed at by a neighbor, a couple encounters with homeless people (one of whom threatened to shoot him), suicide attempt by a relative, practices being started then cancelled again, and online school, he hates Los Angeles (and rightly or wrongly equates the state with Los Angeles). He says when he goes to college he's leaving here and never coming back (I chuckled...said the same thing when I was his age). He loves Utah...we have a bigger house, swimming pool shared by 6 units, a forest for a backyard, golf course, soccer, everyone says "hello" to you on the street (he was seriously perplexed by that the first day), and everyone is (while still being cautious) just so much more relaxed about the pandemic.

The older doesn't want to hear me whine and complain 24/7 but is willing to trade that to hang out with his friends.
 
Relevance? And technically not correct, the treasury has spent around 4 trillion in purchasing government securities. After that, I'm not sure how the stimulus part of it broke down between unemployment v. $1200 checks. So you may be right with respect to the stimulus part of it, but I think it's relatively close.

I mentioned the feds because he appeared to be throwing shade on California. And I'm not saying California does not warrant some shade. The point is that after having spent 7.4 trillion+ and counting, where only slightly better off than many months ago. If we had done things as some Harvard experts suggested, I believe we could have saved at least 4-5 trillion AND been in a much better place.

Relevance because factor in the additional $600/wk added to unemployment as a part of the stimulus to the $1200 flat check and the number increases dramatically.
 
Between fires, protests down the street (he spent one night cowering under a desk), getting doxxed and screamed at by a neighbor, a couple encounters with homeless people (one of whom threatened to shoot him), suicide attempt by a relative, practices being started then cancelled again, and online school, he hates Los Angeles (and rightly or wrongly equates the state with Los Angeles). He says when he goes to college he's leaving here and never coming back (I chuckled...said the same thing when I was his age). He loves Utah...we have a bigger house, swimming pool shared by 6 units, a forest for a backyard, golf course, soccer, everyone says "hello" to you on the street (he was seriously perplexed by that the first day), and everyone is (while still being cautious) just so much more relaxed about the pandemic.

The older doesn't want to hear me whine and complain 24/7 but is willing to trade that to hang out with his friends.
Each kid is different. Thanks for sharing Grace. If I was an incoming Soph, Jr or Sr in this Corona times, I would have quit school and just surfed and worked. My dd had her first class today and everything worked out. My buddy is a teacher for at risk 8th graders. Special, special needs and many violent. My friend feels so safe at home now and mums the word. 7 more years and he's all done. He had one kid three years ago leave a bullet on his desk. Crazy kid who hated my friend. He is 100% with teaching online school forever :)
 
Each kid is different. Thanks for sharing Grace. If I was an incoming Soph, Jr or Sr in this Corona times, I would have quit school and just surfed and worked. My dd had her first class today and everything worked out. My buddy is a teacher for at risk 8th graders. Special, special needs and many violent. My friend feels so safe at home now and mums the word. 7 more years and he's all done. He had one kid three years ago leave a bullet on his desk. Crazy kid who hated my friend. He is 100% with teaching online school forever :)

If he were into surfing and the ocean like you and the older, I'm sure he'd feel different. If the eviction moratorium ever ends, we could move out of the city to the family beach condo in the VC for a couple months which would make everyone's life easier, though I'm not sure those 2 won't kill each other in bunk beds.
 
Between fires, protests down the street (he spent one night cowering under a desk), getting doxxed and screamed at by a neighbor, a couple encounters with homeless people (one of whom threatened to shoot him), suicide attempt by a relative, practices being started then cancelled again, and online school, he hates Los Angeles (and rightly or wrongly equates the state with Los Angeles). He says when he goes to college he's leaving here and never coming back (I chuckled...said the same thing when I was his age). He loves Utah...we have a bigger house, swimming pool shared by 6 units, a forest for a backyard, golf course, soccer, everyone says "hello" to you on the street (he was seriously perplexed by that the first day), and everyone is (while still being cautious) just so much more relaxed about the pandemic.

The older doesn't want to hear me whine and complain 24/7 but is willing to trade that to hang out with his friends.

I don't blame your son. And you know I was just yanking your chain on the 24/7 thing right? Best of luck.
 
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