Yes, 60k, but more typically 30k, is an acceptable number. 10x that is not. Or more likely 50x without social distancing.
Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!
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Yes, 60k, but more typically 30k, is an acceptable number. 10x that is not. Or more likely 50x without social distancing.
Chalklines
GOLD
Football related. Coached HS in Texas before moving to this mess.
You're next and please dont tell me it reminds you of skiing back in the late 80's
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
Okaaay.
Your posts seem to often mention those that are in a financially disadvantaged situation. How does keeping the schools closed which makes a family have to either stay home from work to help their young ones distance learn or send them to (and pay for) an off site distance learning center, make sense? Cities are literally opening up class rooms and civic/recreation centers for kids to come to to have supervised distance learning. But they have to be paid for (140.00 per week in my area).
Never mind the cost, it is literally sending kids into classroom situations without teachers. The kids will still have the problems they are having caused by looking at a monitor all day long. What about the day care workers that are supervising the kids? Doesn’t their health matter?
Not_that_Serious
GOLD
Some of us can call people who work or run hospitals to see what is going on. In the two biggest OC Hospitals - there is no crazy outbreak or people in need of incubation. From their perspective, as they have relayed, the virus is under control - for the most part. The cases they are seeing are the 20-30 “kids”, mainly male and single. Virtually no kids, except occasional infants but nothing life threatening. Kids who were initially having issues were those with auto-immune problems. They also relayed they have problems with just about any virus. I’m sure most have seen viral video of the doctors who came out against current guidelines and being told how to treat their patients. One of the doctors lost her job and “someone” had enough influence to have her website removed. This isn’t about health.
Many say you have to adapt or “live with it”. Many have done so. People will never accept having rules changed on them after complying. We have a set of rules that govern us already- which most people follow. No one likes having rules that don’t apply to everyone. Newsom would have been the kid who no one plays with because they keep trying to make the rules and change them when they aren’t winning.
Lifeisnotfare
SILVER
I was not thinking about the 80s. You did remind me of this one time I won't share. This is late 70s stuff. Little League baseball. I remember the chalk being run down the foul line on each side by the umpires who were chewing gum and getting ready to call the game. I loved playing baseball and I used to watch the umpires chalk it up.
It’s also interesting that folks claim their kids need to get back to normal because the depression from social distancing is too much, yet f**k people over 65 or who might have a health condition, or the healthcare providers forced to risk their health and lives. They can do nothing, go nowhere and do nothing until there’s a vaccine, or they can face a significant risk of dying.
If Americans had done what most European countries had done, or even NY, we wouldn’t be where we are now. @Desert Hound could have his beer, your folks could hug their child after soccer practice, and almost everyone would be back to work. But the American way is to expect other people will change their lives because it’s just too inconvenient for you to change your lifestyle. So the U.S. gets to be the embarrassment of the world.
Lifeisnotfare
SILVER
Life is not fair, get used to it. That's what Bill says and so many others like him. Take all the credit and act like their so smart and have all the answers and all the money. Funny how that works.
Not_that_Serious
GOLD
Boy, I could break this down but would go on longer than I normally do. Some of us are actually going in to poor areas and helping during this issue. Some of us actually have to sneak in to areas to do something as simple as drop off meals/food do to guidelines. Some of these poor families actually need orgs and institutions that are locked down in order to eat and/or get educational help. You bring up the poor or unfortunate only in an attempt to validate what you are saying. These “precautions” have nothing to do with finances - unless you are trying to actually drain finances. Then what you said you actually proved what everyone on here is saying. OC Board of Education and Churches are suing California, mostly, to help the kids. To argue otherwise otherwise is illogical
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!! You mean forcing nursing homes into taking in Covid positive patients that lead to countless deaths!? We have a fraction of the deaths that NY has!
CA has just under 13k deaths.
NY has almost 33k!
California has twice as many people.
Those are the numbers that matter!
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Ha! NY? Damn, that's some stupid shit, right there.
If you would actually pay attention to what is going on, you'd realize there's more to this than wearing a mask. The wonderful view fo life NY has right now is due to the fact that they are standing on the biggest pile of dead grandparents in the country - and it's not even close.
CA 32 / 100,000
TX 42 / 100,000
AZ 69 / 100,000
NY 80 / 100,000
NYC 281 / 100,000
Paul Spacey
SILVER ELITE
Again there are some good perspectives on this thread but it’s impossible now to ignore the craziness of the situation we are in.
Anyone with a modicum of sense can see that we’ve been played, lied to and had the goalposts moved many times since March. At what point does a substantial percentage of Californians stand up and say “enough is enough.” I’ve always believed patriotic Americans would never accept having the piss clearly taken out of them, to use an English phrase.
I see and hear talk of petitions for recalling and wonder where that will go. Will it fizzle out (like the last two recall attempts) and most of us just return to accepting the frankly unacceptable situation we find ourselves in?
I guess we are all waiting to hear from Cal South, CSL, SCDSL and other leagues. It seems pretty clear that games cannot possibly happen in the near future so I hope we’ll be hearing from them shortly.
Do we just move towards unsanctioned soccer/sport and ignore the threat of suspension or punishment as individuals and organizations?
Or maybe we all just sit back and wait for Alexi Lalas to somehow save us!
Anyone with a modicum of sense can see that we’ve been played, lied to and had the goalposts moved many times since March. At what point does a substantial percentage of Californians stand up and say “enough is enough.” I’ve always believed patriotic Americans would never accept having the piss clearly taken out of them, to use an English phrase.
I see and hear talk of petitions for recalling and wonder where that will go. Will it fizzle out (like the last two recall attempts) and most of us just return to accepting the frankly unacceptable situation we find ourselves in?
I guess we are all waiting to hear from Cal South, CSL, SCDSL and other leagues. It seems pretty clear that games cannot possibly happen in the near future so I hope we’ll be hearing from them shortly.
Do we just move towards unsanctioned soccer/sport and ignore the threat of suspension or punishment as individuals and organizations?
Or maybe we all just sit back and wait for Alexi Lalas to somehow save us!
Sheriff Joe
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JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
To compare NY to the rest of the country as a good example of how to handle the Covid pandemic might be the single most stupid take on this subject I have seen ( and that’s saying something)
Man I thought I was stupid
Not_that_Serious
GOLD
Now I know that person is just trolling. You can Bing (google suppresses searches and gives unrelated info) and find out the masses of people who are paid to troll on Reddit (who does well banning them), Facebook, Twitter and all the thousands of forums online. Many are very good and sound like “normal” people. Businesses do it with fake reviews and paying for influence on related message boards, but this is a bit more sinister. Where giving out fake info actually can hurt people. Just have to figure out who they are, point them out and ignore them. They will fight and say how they are real people. If they are real, still better not to engage with people talking repeated nonsense.
SoccerFan6
SILVER ELITE
How do kids going to school kill people over 65? Serious question, I don’t see to correlation.
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DOMINIC
Some of the kids and teachers live with people over 65 years old. The amount of people headed to the hospital if there is an outbreak at a school, which spreads into the community, can affect people over 65. Let us not forget all of the health care workers who have lost their own lives while treating people for Covid.
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
Ok. Then those kids stay home and distance learn if there is no way for them to distance themselves from at risk people inside their home. Of course those kids should also avoid just about any other type of movement that could expose them to the virus that they could then bring home.
You are absolutely being played. It's so clear from where I sit. It's unfortunate. I know that for us it's all about soccer, but it goes beyond that - long term small business health, mental health, you name it, will be impacted by decisions being driven by political ideology. It's unfortunate. A prudent, safe, scientific, non partisan approach isn't even being attempted.
On a bright note, I did see CA teams in AZ today playing scrimmages. It was hot. they played well considering they were playing in conditions they are not used to.