Justus
GOLD
Thank you so much for the info. My buddy is really trying to figure out his next move next year. Tough decisions. No one likes surprises especially when money is involved.
Why I feel DA is the superior league
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Justus - your buddy should pick the teams he's interested in and talk to some of the parents on it to see what their cost are as well as the team an age group above them. That's going to give him a more accurate number than random numbers from the forum. Don't forget to calculate that ECNL starts a year earlier than DA. We know people in ECNL and the 5K seems like an extremely low number. Kudos for whichever club is being able to keep it that low and I hope they become the model for DA, ECNL, NPL, and every other league that is in existence and will be created in the future.
Justus
GOLD
Thanks Emma. I told him I was bored and I would ask my friends on the forum
Soccerfan2
GOLD
Yes
My whole family trains and does recovery in various facilities. Based on the cross section of the young athletes I see there, it’s not just “mandatory” for DA players, it’s a critical part of many athletes routines both young and old across many sports, leagues and active lifestyles.
Justus
GOLD
Justus speaks for me, myself and I. The other folks I have no clue.
Recovery is indeed crucial but can be as simple as an ice bath which maybe costs $3.00. Or Normatec which you can use for $15-20 bucks at a Cryo center. That wasn't what I was referring to. I feel DA girls and maybe ECNL too I don't know, are training a lot outside of practice and spending a lot for it. What that will do to the bodies topping off 4 days of practice is what is yet to be determined. It may be better for all I know. But currently, on the financial side it is an @$100-$200 cost per week which needs to be factored in.
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From your outside perspective, what’s does theirs 4 days a week of training entail?
So many like to reference it....
And you also need to include, in your case, potential medical bills associated with the strong hating of the parents, when they see a new player coming to the team and act to remove her to eliminate competition. That strong hating can lead to stomach ulcers, depression, etc.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
It was a random and odd post.
I am curious by this post as it seems odd. Are you referencing something that is actually happening at your club?
If you think about it, it could happen at any club. A new player shows up because his family moved in from another state where he was on the State ODP team, or because he is an exchange student from a country where there is no other youth sport than soccer, or because he was invited as a loan player to fill in for just one tournament for an absent/injured player and the coach liked him and managed to recruit him away from his old club - somebody on the pre-existing starting roster just got bumped to the bench. How does the player (or, as in the discussion, his parents) deal wth that?
Usually badly. All friendly and welcoming of the competition until the established player starts getting displaced.
Justus
GOLD
No Bueno for most involved. No winners usually on the kids side or parents side regarding team chemistry.
bigroyalbastard
BRONZE
You must have been talking to KC. Does the $14,000 include the trip to Europe to train? I don't think most parents pay that much for DA. Most parents don't fly first class to showcases...crazy.
Justus
GOLD
Not sure who KC is but some can and do. Non first class is still expensive. I flew Spirit Airlines to save a few bucks. Horrible decision by the way. I would recommend fly American and pay the extra $500. If you got the money go for it
Justus
GOLD
"Fred Fred, post: 282710, member: 6374"]ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
Fred, are you real? I will go with a no, but I will respond. The DA Team that seems to have it going on is Earthquakes. So I think Earthquakes is far superior to everyone else. Here's why:
Earthquakes Expectations: To maintain a focus on the 10-month club environment. Full Time Academy Players and teams do not play in any outside competitions. This includes any other leagues, tournaments, State Cup, ODP or PDP (exceptions are US Training Centers and YNT ). DA players for all teams must choose to participate in the Academy Full Time and forgo playing for their High Schools teams. Full Time players train 4 days a week!
(I bet you $1 that Coach Deza does not allow even one player a special waiver or a little "turn the other way" to allow a special favor for someone with other interests besides DA Soccer)
Earthquakes Coaching: DOC is Andres Deza. A native of Barcelona, Spain, Deza has coached nearly a dozen players born between 1998 and 2003 (4 more with his 04' team) who have gone on to earn invites to U.S. Youth National Team or U.S. Women’s National Team camps. Nice to have him at the top driving the bus.
Q. Does anyone know if Earthquakes offer Full Scholarships to their YNT players or other players based on Merit or Need?
Other DA Clubs Expectations: Commit to the 10-month league as much as possible. Train 3 days a week or at least 2 if you’re playing another sport or activity. Play both high school soccer and DA with special waiver or no waiver because no one will know anyways. Run track, be on HS Surf team, basketball team, dancing or volleyball if you want to. Must watch video on your own when possible and pay for private coaching and personal private trainers for the other days you need to miss and turn in proof you did the training.
Coaching: All over the place
The moral of the story is find a great coach that is a part of a great club or organization (DA, ECNL, AYSO, SCDSL, Presidio, CSL, DPL, ECNL II, Rec League) that provides a healthy environment and a place where we make sure the girls are having fun. Season is starting this weekend just like the NFL. Good luck to everyone on whatever pitch your kid is playing on this weekend
Fred, are you real? I will go with a no, but I will respond. The DA Team that seems to have it going on is Earthquakes. So I think Earthquakes is far superior to everyone else. Here's why:
Earthquakes Expectations: To maintain a focus on the 10-month club environment. Full Time Academy Players and teams do not play in any outside competitions. This includes any other leagues, tournaments, State Cup, ODP or PDP (exceptions are US Training Centers and YNT ). DA players for all teams must choose to participate in the Academy Full Time and forgo playing for their High Schools teams. Full Time players train 4 days a week!
(I bet you $1 that Coach Deza does not allow even one player a special waiver or a little "turn the other way" to allow a special favor for someone with other interests besides DA Soccer)
Earthquakes Coaching: DOC is Andres Deza. A native of Barcelona, Spain, Deza has coached nearly a dozen players born between 1998 and 2003 (4 more with his 04' team) who have gone on to earn invites to U.S. Youth National Team or U.S. Women’s National Team camps. Nice to have him at the top driving the bus.
Q. Does anyone know if Earthquakes offer Full Scholarships to their YNT players or other players based on Merit or Need?
Other DA Clubs Expectations: Commit to the 10-month league as much as possible. Train 3 days a week or at least 2 if you’re playing another sport or activity. Play both high school soccer and DA with special waiver or no waiver because no one will know anyways. Run track, be on HS Surf team, basketball team, dancing or volleyball if you want to. Must watch video on your own when possible and pay for private coaching and personal private trainers for the other days you need to miss and turn in proof you did the training.
Coaching: All over the place
The moral of the story is find a great coach that is a part of a great club or organization (DA, ECNL, AYSO, SCDSL, Presidio, CSL, DPL, ECNL II, Rec League) that provides a healthy environment and a place where we make sure the girls are having fun. Season is starting this weekend just like the NFL. Good luck to everyone on whatever pitch your kid is playing on this weekend
Desert Hound
DA
Just depends on the club.
Royals in az cost $2700. Unis are roughly $250. Any trip that involves showcases the club picks up flights and hotel. The vast majority of trips to Cal are again paid by the club. Parents pay roughly $700 for the year for meals. It is cheaper vs del Sol DA and the 2 ECNL teams out here.
GoldenGate
GOLD
"Fred Fred, post: 282710, member: 6374"]ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
Fred, are you real? I will go with a no, but I will respond. The DA Team that seems to have it going on is Earthquakes. So I think Earthquakes is far superior to everyone else. Here's why:
Earthquakes Expectations: To maintain a focus on the 10-month club environment. Full Time Academy Players and teams do not play in any outside competitions. This includes any other leagues, tournaments, State Cup, ODP or PDP (exceptions are US Training Centers and YNT ). DA players for all teams must choose to participate in the Academy Full Time and forgo playing for their High Schools teams. Full Time players train 4 days a week!
(I bet you $1 that Coach Deza does not allow even one player a special waiver or a little "turn the other way" to allow a special favor for someone with other interests besides DA Soccer)
Earthquakes Coaching: DOC is Andres Deza. A native of Barcelona, Spain, Deza has coached nearly a dozen players born between 1998 and 2003 (4 more with his 04' team) who have gone on to earn invites to U.S. Youth National Team or U.S. Women’s National Team camps. Nice to have him at the top driving the bus.
Q. Does anyone know if Earthquakes offer Full Scholarships to their YNT players or other players based on Merit or Need?
Other DA Clubs Expectations: Commit to the 10-month league as much as possible. Train 3 days a week or at least 2 if you’re playing another sport or activity. Play both high school soccer and DA with special waiver or no waiver because no one will know anyways. Run track, be on HS Surf team, basketball team, dancing or volleyball if you want to. Must watch video on your own when possible and pay for private coaching and personal private trainers for the other days you need to miss and turn in proof you did the training.
Coaching: All over the place
The moral of the story is find a great coach that is a part of a great club or organization (DA, ECNL, AYSO, SCDSL, Presidio, CSL, DPL, ECNL II, Rec League) that provides a healthy environment and a place where we make sure the girls are having fun. Season is starting this weekend just like the NFL. Good luck to everyone on whatever pitch your kid is playing on this weekend
FYI, many Quakes GDA players have played HS, including some who’ve returned this season. Not all Quakes GDA players train 4 days a week, and players do not receive scholarships for playing on a YNT. You also owe me a dollar.
Justus
GOLD
TY "Golden Gate" for giving us all the information we as parents need down here in SoCal. It's all a BIG scam folks. If Earthquakes DOC is not "enforcing" the rules of Expectations, than no one is. Some folks are making a lot of money off false expectations on what it takes to be the next Mia. Please PM me GG and I will pay you the $1. BTW, I hate the Warriors but they're one hell of team. Go Lakers
Better yet GG, get a GOATs team formed from NoCal and get your dd down here for the first ever, "All GOATs Labor Day Turney." @Sombith, can you make this happen? We will also allow top teams from all over the country to test their teams against the "Best of the Best Local GOAT teams" Dom? This could be the change we all need. A "D0 DA" parade so to speak to "doo doo" on the DA for one weekend. DA is not going away (unless parents in SoCal do something about it) so you might as well have some fun, right? A tournament run by crazy parents and their innocent daughters. No Coaching, No tournament fees, No Teams fees, No Mandatory Hotel stays. In fact, if your nice to me, I might let some of you stay at my crib at da beach in Laguna. Just let the girls play, have fun, eat ice cream and pizza and paint face green, yellow, blue or whatever they want. Just one weekend out of the whole year where no politics, keeping up with the Jones, politicking the coaches to get playing time and or guaranteed field position and starts. No blacklisting, name calling or labeling families crazy club hoppers is allowed. I bet Surfref and my dd Grandpa would help ref the games. However, we should throw them some money for dealing with all the crazy soccer parents. No one can make money except the Refs!!!!