And my dad vs. your dad.
Why I feel DA is the superior league
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And my dad vs. your dad.
soccer dude
SILVER ELITE
DA Safety: funny. I just spoke to our 04 Legends academy parent and saw at least 4 injured players due to overuse, some of which were national team players. 4 practices a week is tough and not recommended by a lot of good trainers. One thing about ECNL is that it's usually 2 practices a week with a probably 3rd futsal, ACL prevention, etc. I'd like to see the injury rate per team of ECNL vs DA for Girls and then you can talk about that subject.
That would be interesting stats but we will never see those
To that point it isn’t a DA or ECNL thing as much as a club organization thing. Many clubs do periodization, weekly recovery sessions, futsal, video, technical work, etc throughout the weeks.
Some don’t.....It’s all grind all the time.
Most of the players that are at the top level are training 4-5 times a week in some way shape or form no matter what league they play in.
Not true. ECNL was here first and proved it's worth. DA went with 2 letters to dumb it down for those parents jumping ship from ECNL thinking just like @Keeper pops said..the latest shiny new toy.
But a few things to point out through observation. (My G03 GK plays in neither league so I really don't have any skin in the game.)
1) While she was at an ID Camp over the summer for a local university..there was a DA GK from one of the local clubs. She had to be on their radar already because my kid said the GK coach talked to her like they were old chums. Even when she let a ball slip right thru her gloves and slam off her face he said "Good job!! See how ____ stopped the ball with her face" My daughter was a bit miffed at that one to say the least. Not the first time she's seen this happen at a camp with DA GKs and the coaches thinks it's the greatest thing. Why stopping the ball with your face instead of your hands is better I will never know.
2) She has played with and against ECNL teams and trained along side DA GKs at keeper training and at various camps. Individually she's seen some GKs play above others..but nothing to say one is better than the other. Same goes for field players.
3) Her GK trainer/club has 3 GDA GKs my kid consistently trains with from a DA club nearby. Why aren't they training with their DA GK trainer if the DA is so great?
Just my .02
1) While she was at an ID Camp over the summer for a local university..there was a DA GK from one of the local clubs. She had to be on their radar already because my kid said the GK coach talked to her like they were old chums. Even when she let a ball slip right thru her gloves and slam off her face he said "Good job!! See how ____ stopped the ball with her face" My daughter was a bit miffed at that one to say the least. Not the first time she's seen this happen at a camp with DA GKs and the coaches thinks it's the greatest thing. Why stopping the ball with your face instead of your hands is better I will never know.
2) She has played with and against ECNL teams and trained along side DA GKs at keeper training and at various camps. Individually she's seen some GKs play above others..but nothing to say one is better than the other. Same goes for field players.
3) Her GK trainer/club has 3 GDA GKs my kid consistently trains with from a DA club nearby. Why aren't they training with their DA GK trainer if the DA is so great?
Just my .02
Gosh when ECNL started, I had trouble remembering whether the C or the N came first. It sounds good both ways. To bad they didn't dumb it down to two letters too, would have made my life easier
RedCard
GOLD
Pretty dangerous bringing up Xbox vs PlayStation. I think that one has been going a lot longer than DA vs ECNL.
Desert Hound
DA
When my DD was ECNL it was 3 days of practice each week. Currently both of the ecnl clubs here run 3 a week. And then slip in other stuff here and there.
Justus
GOLD
Given that the DA is the far superior league and most parents are paying to have their kids participate, how much is it costing each family to play in the DA? Dues, private training, teams fees, per diems, travel for kid and one parent, hotels, eating out every meal, rental car, sight seeing tours, gas and other expenses. Anyone add all this up from last year? I'm asking because a friend of mine is looking at DA for 2006 with no Full Ride. He has some money but is looking for a true number. Thanks
Justus
GOLD
An old friend is lurking on here and texted me that they spent over $14,000 last year. They have money and have no problem with it. Flying first class to showcases and Nocal and AZ league games. I think that's on the high end and depending on where your DA club is located will probably determined how much one is willing to pay to travel all over the country watching soccer games. My guess is around $8,000 a year for avg. family not getting the full scholarship. Times that by 6 seasons and its got to be over $50,000 to participate in the DA.Given that the DA is the far superior league and most parents are paying to have their kids participate, how much is it costing each family to play in the DA? Dues, private training, teams fees, per diems, travel for kid and one parent, hotels, eating out every meal, rental car, sight seeing tours, gas and other expenses. Anyone add all this up from last year? I'm asking because a friend of mine is looking at DA for 2006 with no Full Ride. He has some money but is looking for a true number. Thanks
Most likely + or - 10% the cost of ECNL based on the aforementioned variables.
Justus
GOLD
Lot's of variables for sure
nosubs
BRONZE
I don't know for boys, not really sure how many showcases they do. With club fees and uniforms, out of state league games, travel to showcases and now DA cup games, realistically about 7- 8k for just her. Parents don't need to go unless chaperoning, but add another 200 dollars per night for hotel(average cost per night your taste may very).Given that the DA is the far superior league and most parents are paying to have their kids participate, how much is it costing each family to play in the DA? Dues, private training, teams fees, per diems, travel for kid and one parent, hotels, eating out every meal, rental car, sight seeing tours, gas and other expenses. Anyone add all this up from last year? I'm asking because a friend of mine is looking at DA for 2006 with no Full Ride. He has some money but is looking for a true number. Thanks
Club - $3000
Travel $3000 (player only)
Hotel - $600 ($50 per night. 4 players per room x 12 nights)
Food-$ 480 ( $40 per day x 12 days)
Van Rental - $150 ($100 per day, 2 vans =$200 x 12 days = $2400/#of players(16))
Total = $7120.00 (I didn't include shopping and sight seeing/college campus visits)
This coming year is going to be more because of one more out of state game and DA Cup games.
Soccerfan2
GOLD
What girl gets DA full scholar-shipped? I know there’s some US Soccer money set aside for DA scholarships for those that are really disadvantaged (income around $30k I think?) and some clubs discount club fees for families under the income level threshold the club sets, but that’s all I’ve ever heard of?
Justus
GOLD
Texted a buddy who played ECNL last year 04'. Did not travel east coast or CO. Just AZ Showcases and Vegas. Cost was under $5K for everything. This year might be a little more he said because of East Coast trip. I think ECNL is less expensive for the middle class family. I also think ECNL is superior to the DA because it's preparing the girls to play the college game with the same college rules and no 25% guarantee start times for all on the roster. No development either (you better do that on your own or you will be on the bench). Just hard nose competition at it's finest. Also, over a 6 season youth soccer career, the middle class family will pay under $30K in ECNL compared to $50,000+ (depending on travel habits and cash flow).
Justus
GOLD
For a middle class family getting no Full Ride, it's close to $9K+ to participate in the DA and benefit from the DA process. Since its a foolish dream to be on the YNT for the 99.5% of us, ECNL is the logical choice. ECNL will get you the same college scholarship/Admittance at a far less cost plus you don't have to train 4 days a week 10 months out of the year and you get to choose to play HS Soccer or take a little break.
Justus
GOLD
Is your dd playing DA?
What do you mean by this? The process is the process no matter what the league.