What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

paytoplay said:
If San Diego is starting soccer, why doesn’t OC do the same?
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No one can even begin to start until state issues guidance.

Once that is is done local health can determine how and when.

Once those two steps are done then facilities can determine how and when to permit.

All this takes time but you have to start somewhere, the sooner the better is what most are hoping for.
 
It will not be anything specific. It will be a release from the governor to give the counties the autonomy to make decisions what they want to with their specific counties. County of SD has it ready already, just waiting from him to say go.
 
Socal United said:
It will not be anything specific. It will be a release from the governor to give the counties the autonomy to make decisions what they want to with their specific counties. County of SD has it ready already, just waiting from him to say go.
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I listen in everyday but governor already said he was giving counties discretion during the last news conference about covid. Maybe something different today?
 
Keepermom2 said:
The problem is it is hard to use any decline in hospitalizations or deaths as a basis things are better because generally speaking hospitalizations and deaths represent what was going on about a month ago which is when we were in lock down. The life cycle of the disease is such that what we are doing now will be reflected in hospitalizations and deaths about a month from now. We opened up and had protests so the effects of that (if any) will start to show in about a month.
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The trends are down. Georgia opened up long before AZ. So what do we see there?
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Desert Hound said:
The trends are down. Georgia opened up long before AZ. So what do we see there?
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We see that it is possible to open safely, and that GA got the details right. They did a lot of work on distance, telecommuting, masks, testing, sanitation, protecting nursing homes, and sanitation.

My fear is that AZ got the details wrong. You have a hockey stick in your case count graph, starting 10 days ago. I don’t think it is just an artifact of testing improvements. It looks like you have a ballooning virus count.

Read the recommendations on the GA public health website. It was a lot more complicated than you’re giving them credit for.
 
Socal United said:
That is going to happen today. News conference at noon from the governor.
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Sounds good

I just looked at today's update 10am and didn't notice any new county variance(s). Not open looks to be the same

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Are there some specifics that's are going to be changed at a news conference? Or in weeks not days there is a new roadmap or something?
 
This could be one work-around on beginning some form of training with small groups of players in Los Angeles. Not sure how they define fitness businesses, but if they allow exercise classes outdoor, there are certainly things you can do with players that should qualify, including with a ball.

mynewsla.com

L.A. Council Seeks Easier Way For Fitness Businesses To Get Outdoor Permits - MyNewsLA.com

The Los Angeles City Council voted Wednesday to simplify the process for fitness businesses to apply for permits to conduct exercise classes and activities in public spaces during the COVID-19 pandemic. Gyms and other fitness facilities have been closed since March 15 under the Los Angeles Safer...
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Dargle said:
This could be one work-around on beginning some form of training with small groups of players in Los Angeles. Not sure how they define fitness businesses, but if they allow exercise classes outdoor, there are certainly things you can do with players that should qualify, including with a ball.

mynewsla.com

L.A. Council Seeks Easier Way For Fitness Businesses To Get Outdoor Permits - MyNewsLA.com

The Los Angeles City Council voted Wednesday to simplify the process for fitness businesses to apply for permits to conduct exercise classes and activities in public spaces during the COVID-19 pandemic. Gyms and other fitness facilities have been closed since March 15 under the Los Angeles Safer...
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Won't help in regards to permitting youth club soccer at LA city rec& parks facilities which have a different process where AYSO has the fields mostly anyways or Rec& parks uses the fields for in house classes or city programs.

Might help more personal trainers get permits to train at parks but the city requires a bunch of insurance, documents, and other stuff that adds up. Will they waive some of that? Reduce fees? Or not take 90 days or more to act on permit requests?
 
Copa9 said:
The flu does have a high death rate for children. Please remember, kids have not been in school, kids have not been in sports, kids have not been hanging out as they do during the flu season. Brazil had released pictures of a baby they had saved that had been on a ventilator for over 30 days, baby was six months old and healthy before the covid, wonderful pic of mom and dad taking their daughter home. Then they continued to say that they were unable to save another twenty-five babies under twelve months who had covid. Terrible. They probably weren't able to physical distance like we have in our country. Just a lot to think about as we go back to our normal life. Stay safe wash your hands, I think most of us have always done that but must make sure our children do it often and correctly.
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dad4 said:
We see that it is possible to open safely, and that GA got the details right. They did a lot of work on distance, telecommuting, masks, testing, sanitation, protecting nursing homes, and sanitation.

My fear is that AZ got the details wrong. You have a hockey stick in your case count graph, starting 10 days ago. I don’t think it is just an artifact of testing improvements. It looks like you have a ballooning virus count.

Read the recommendations on the GA public health website. It was a lot more complicated than you’re giving them credit for.
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Ballooning Virus Count in my view is a non-issue for the most part (good to review trends though); testing frequency increased tremendously, one of the big reasons that state governments have changed their opening requirements to the Death trend....
 
Desert Hound said:
The trends are down. Georgia opened up long before AZ. So what do we see there?
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I found this very interesting and hopeful so I went to the Georgia website. I couldn't find any similar charts for hospitalizations nor could I find any information on current hospitalizations. For some crazy reason they are just adding up how many hospitalizations have occurred over time and then a disclaimer that the number is most likely understated. It looks like hospitalizations have increased by approximately 30% since May 20 (I found an article that told the number on May 20). However, I also found articles that said the daily hospitalizations are decreasing. As with most numbers, there are many things that go into numbers that change the picture. On the face of it, the information presented provides a hopeful picture but here in OC our daily hospitalizations continue to increase.
 
dad4 said:
Your numbers are worse, or were.

And you’re next to LA, so people worry it will spill over.
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OC is better off than SD, especially in Deaths, which really count the most. The more you test, the more cases.

County -----------------------------------Cases---------------Deaths----------Active Cases-------Tests
Los Angeles59,6502,53157,119646,080[county] [state]
Riverside8,3033453,061125,268[county] [state]
San Diego7,9403122,497176,387[county] [state]
Orange6,9391653,884144,916[county] [state]
San Bernardino5,7932102,24069,266[county] [state]

In reality if you throw out LA County the others are all pretty close to each other. All should open.
 
paytoplay said:
If San Diego is starting soccer, why doesn’t OC do the same?
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That hasn't happened yet, although there is some speculation that it will. In terms, of OC, I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) that San Diego has been more proactive with the reopening of sports. San Diego County supervisors submitted a plan a few weeks ago to Newsom for accelerated reopening (ie Phase 3 activities in Phase 2) of certain activities including 12 player practices with restrictions. All the activities submitted were approved by Newsom with the exception of the reopening youth sports. Supervisor Gaspar in particular has been lobbying hard for youth sports.
 
watfly said:
That hasn't happened yet, although there is some speculation that it will. In terms, of OC, I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) that San Diego has been more proactive with the reopening of sports. San Diego County supervisors submitted a plan a few weeks ago to Newsom for accelerated reopening (ie Phase 3 activities in Phase 2) of certain activities including 12 player practices with restrictions. All the activities submitted were approved by Newsom with the exception of the reopening youth sports. Supervisor Gaspar in particular has been lobbying hard for youth sports.
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Some OC ECNL/ECRL teams are holding some practices
 
Kicker4Life said:
Some OC ECNL/ECRL teams are holding some practices
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Without the State's Nanny's permission. I suspect some teams are practicing in SD as well. This article implies that OC is a little behind the curve in terms of requesting the reopening of youth sports.
voiceofoc.org

County of Orange Pushes to Re-Open Community Pools, May Also Reopen Youth Sports

Orange County is considering joining Los Angeles and Riverside in allowing pools at apartment complexes or owned by homeowners’ associations to reopen.
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watfly said:
That hasn't happened yet, although there is some speculation that it will. In terms, of OC, I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) that San Diego has been more proactive with the reopening of sports. San Diego County supervisors submitted a plan a few weeks ago to Newsom for accelerated reopening (ie Phase 3 activities in Phase 2) of certain activities including 12 player practices with restrictions. All the activities submitted were approved by Newsom with the exception of the reopening youth sports. Supervisor Gaspar in particular has been lobbying hard for youth sports.
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Many of the experts said we need to restrict group gatherings to 25 people or less and wear masks and maintain 6 ft distance to prevent a surge in infections and those are three of the main restrictions in many states including California and New York . Obviously our state and local officials thought this was serious enough to keep these restrictions in place despite raging unemployment and a devastated economy .

We have had peaceful protests and not so peaceful riots 9 straight days and nights in many cities and most states . The majority of these protests have consisted of peaceful very large groups of people . In those situations most people have had a hard time maintaining a 6 ft social distance and many wore masks and many did not.

If the experts are right we should see a very large increase in infections over the next one to two weeks over much of the US .

If we don't see this large increase in infections it would appear the experts were wrong and it seems reasonable that we should lift the restrictions and open up our struggling economy and get people working again to support their families . Or at least the restrictions should be greatly reduced in most states and eliminated in others.
 
jpeter said:
Sounds good

I just looked at today's update 10am and didn't notice any new county variance(s). Not open looks to be the same

COVID-19 Home

covid19.ca.gov covid19.ca.gov

Are there some specifics that's are going to be changed at a news conference? Or in weeks not days there is a new roadmap or something?
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Newsom said in the Q & A portion of the news conference that new guidelines for opening nail salons, etc are coming today. Hopefully that includes youth sports. The conference was about injustice, protests so he only touched on it very briefly
 
dawson said:
Many of the experts said we need to restrict group gatherings to 25 people or less and wear masks and maintain 6 ft distance to prevent a surge in infections and those are three of the main restrictions in many states including California and New York . Obviously our state and local officials thought this was serious enough to keep these restrictions in place despite raging unemployment and a devastated economy .

We have had peaceful protests and not so peaceful riots 9 straight days and nights in many cities and most states . The majority of these protests have consisted of peaceful very large groups of people . In those situations most people have had a hard time maintaining a 6 ft social distance and many wore masks and many did not.

If the experts are right we should see a very large increase in infections over the next one to two weeks over much of the US .

If we don't see this large increase in infections it would appear the experts were wrong and it seems reasonable that we should lift the restrictions and open up our struggling economy and get people working again to support their families . Or at least the restrictions should be greatly reduced in most states and eliminated in others.
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you do understand people are much closer to one another at the grocery store in a closed environment then at these protest. Its physically impossible to maintain 6ft going out for grocery's.........but yet some how 22 players on an open soccer field pose a threat, a threat great enough to shut down youth sports everywhere
 
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