Vaccine
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I went to a cool party without mask this past weekend and had a chat with a few of my bff lib pals who were all in with the Jab mandates, Biden, Mask Enforcement, Ukraine, WWW3 and 100% for Abortion up to 6 months before birth. Now, they don;t want to talk to me at all. When I walk in a room or get to the fields, I am 100% confident. I am not afraid of anyone of you who tried to bully me and threaten me to STFU or else and stay away from the fields!!! They see me at the party and turn the other way, classic!!! These guys are funny when they lose. They used to be able to pay to play and pay their way to the top and get theior kids to the top as well. I find them now and then we talk and then they get uncomfortable and then have to look at me in the eyes and then they leave. I did ask one rich elitist type pal of mine if he still is riding with Biden. He told me, "no way bro. I was wrong about that dude and I'm done with politics forever." I asked him about the future of money and he told me that the system has failed and we fail. This guy knows everything about money. He said a new system is coming, he just doesn't know which one and if the good guys or bad guys will be in charge. I told him the Great Reset was on it's way to victory until HRC lost somehow to Trump. As soon as I said that, he walked away.
Check this vid out. What a nightmare from an English speaking person teaching in Shanghai. A few conclusions we can draw too:
1. We still don't have complete understanding how the virus is transmitted. These people either caught it outside on their balcony, through the sewage, through the ventilation, or through the floor in their apartment despite being in hard lockdown with no outside contact.
2. If people live in apartments, even ones that aren't very dense, containing COVID was always going to be fantasy. You can reduce it but not contain it, particularly at current transmission levels. Apartment usage alone would go a long way to describing the different impacts in various LA zip codes.
3. Unless China is going to hard shut its border in perpetuity what are they doing here? What's the end goal? There's always going to be reseeding and people will have to go through these nightmares over and over again. Those masks really did a good job too in avoiding lockdowns.
4. What a nightmare. Always remember this is what the zero COVID folks wanted for us, for something which now amounts to a bad cold.
1. We still don't have complete understanding how the virus is transmitted. These people either caught it outside on their balcony, through the sewage, through the ventilation, or through the floor in their apartment despite being in hard lockdown with no outside contact.
2. If people live in apartments, even ones that aren't very dense, containing COVID was always going to be fantasy. You can reduce it but not contain it, particularly at current transmission levels. Apartment usage alone would go a long way to describing the different impacts in various LA zip codes.
3. Unless China is going to hard shut its border in perpetuity what are they doing here? What's the end goal? There's always going to be reseeding and people will have to go through these nightmares over and over again. Those masks really did a good job too in avoiding lockdowns.
4. What a nightmare. Always remember this is what the zero COVID folks wanted for us, for something which now amounts to a bad cold.
Hard core is coming this Summer or in the Fall because. The first beta test Grace T was to see how easy it is to fool people once and even twice. The third time is a charm but my bet is with the American people, not either party. We have sell outs on both sides and Julian said that what he got from Seth would send 98% of the swamp to jail. No joke Grace. Then of course we got the lap tops from hell, all the cheating that went on and last but not least, a bat virus that escaped the Wuhan Zoo that shut our lives down ((unless you were on the side of grab & go)) and now a monkey has escaped the Zoo and has Pox with him/her. What next Grace T? How do you sea the world today after the last 6 years of being lied to from both sides who were on the side of cheating?
So you keep saying.
Let me know when your argument finally acknowledges the million people who died of your “bad cold”.
Out of curiosity, can you acknowledge that out of the 1 million that died that roughly 950,000 died with on average 4 other comorbidities? Or as the CDC also calls them "causes of death".
As you know I came down with it the first couple weeks of it here in the US with one very scary night which only an experimental choice by my doctor kept me out of the ER and god knows what we would have done with the kids. Set aside the arguments over overcounts, comorbities, or attenuated virus....we have the vaccine now that renders it not the same thing as at the beginning of this.
The fact that you (who have gone out of the way to avoid it, and boast about your trust in the Science TM and vaccines) are lecturing me on this point (who came down with it at the very beginning) is just so full of irony I can't help but smile. Unless secretly you don't really believe in vaccines and the science.
Dad, it was a bad flu virus mixed with bat. Once that got to our shores from China, those with more than 4 underlying healthy issues had the main risk of dying. I chose to quit eating meat, no more booze and went healthy with my mind, body and soul. It's all a choice. You went with the mask mandate, fire those who refuse the jab and that was flat out evil and wrong to do to your fellow human being. You bought the fear lie.
Take a look at the common comorbidities. Asthma, hypertension, diabetes, liver disease, heart disease, overweight, inactivity, pregnancy, former smoker, transplant patient, immunocompromised, etc. These conditions are extremely common.
It is not at all surprising that most covid fatalities are among those with at least four of those conditions. A sizable fraction of the over 60 population in the US fits that description.
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So, to a significant degree, those who make good/healthy life choices are penalized for those who make poor life/health choices. Like @crush, I chose a healthier lifestyle. I highly recommend starting a healthier lifestyle now to prepare for the Next Big Thing.
You’re mixing apples and oranges.
Are we talking about the best policy against Alpha, in a world without vaccines?
Or are we talking about the best policy against omicron, in a world with vaccines?
Pick one. These are not at all the same question. You can’t take omicron transmission events, based on an R0 around 10, and apply them to vanilla covid, which had an R0 around 3.
Fixed it for you….Thought you would want to use the same language as the CDC is using.
Bingo.
You know what percentage of those 55 and 65 and over work in the hospitality industry? 14% and <5%. The average age in this industry is 31 and yet we effectively shutdown this industry. That's a failed policy based on the gross miscalculation of risk. Blanket policies never work. They damage those not at risk and don't materially help those at risk. But worst of all they divert focus on addressing the actual risks.
I don’t think anyone outside of right wing talk shows is actually claiming a net overcount.
Specific miscounts? Sure. In both directions.
But there is no basis for a claim that, overall, the deaths did not happen or were mostly caused by things other than covid. That’s just denying something because you don’t want to thing about it.
How do you propose to have a vast respiratory disease wave among the under 30 set, without creating a similar wave among the over 65 set?
We didn’t have any 100% effective barriers. Every tool we had was only partly effective. You could build a wall around the vulnerable, but it would be extremely leaky.
Wait….so correcting the statement to accurately match the CDC’s position is now a Right Wing Talk Show commentary?
Talk about looking for something where non exists…..
Bingo for you watty
They also destroyed small business and sowed division among American Citizens. The same crew just sent $40,000,000,000 to save Ukraine.Exactly. It's the same for the IFR. Glad you caught on.
Um, like you said it was the over 60 that was dying even with the restrictions because they have the comorbidities. So we should let the over 60's die and punish the 30 year olds? That's interesting logic.
Like I said? I said nothing of the sort.
My opinion is that roughly 1M people were saved by the restrictions, and more could have been saved if we had been less resistant to masks, vaccines, and moving life outside.
Agree, or disagree. But don’t pretend I am saying the exact opposite of my position.