Vaccine
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Soccermaverick
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Sorry, I didn'r know I needed to repeat word for word what you exactly said, since you were the one who said it. So just to clarify, out of the house to "dinner" 2 times. HAHAHA, wow! You're a sharp one!
I realize you do not know any of these people, as I have said, I believe you live in a very small bubble and probably have a very small circle of friends. The numbers of covid cases that have increased in the last month can show you that vaccinated people are a big reason why there is such a spike. I didn't realize I needed to spell that out for you as well. Your reading comprehension is bar none!
Soccermaverick
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I'm sure they are able to clearly identify those who are vaccinated and not vaccinated when they have trouble even identifying who the patient is, HAHAHA you have got to be kidding me! But of course, the numbers don't lie! LOLNot saying no test avoidance. Just saying that test avoidance cannot possibly explain the fact that unvaccinated people are 4X as likely to test positive in SCC. You’d need 75% of vaccinated people to skip the test. Hard for your family to skip the test when your kid can’t go to school without one.
CDC tracks things like “test positivity rate by vaccination status”. If you’re actually curious, you can read how the real numbers work.
COVID Data Tracker
CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.covid.cdc.gov
If you’re just looking for an excuse to claim vaccines don’t work, I‘m sure Joe Rogan has a guest who will tell you what you want to hear.
Minnesota AG sues Covid-19 testing providers for allegedly faking or failing to deliver results | CNN
Some people reported getting their test results much later than the time promised, and some reported never receiving the results of their rapid antigen tests or PCR tests, according to the lawsuit.
www.cnn.com
Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
Lol
Cool. Now:
1. add omicron
2. distinguish the unvaccinated between immunonaive and prior infection
3. break it up by age category.
What do you think it will tell you?
what-happened
GOLD
Why should they?
And who is the decider in chief that gets to announce who knows what they are talking about vs who doesn't. Disagreement/discourse should be allowed. If you disagree, lay it out. It's funny that drs M&M (malone/ mcCullough ) have risen in status because of the hysteria. A simple point by point analysis would have sufficed and likely their names would have continued to be just below the mainstream. They had their great points, backed by data, others were grounded in their professional opinion without data to be taken seriously.
Funny how they rushed they the “vaccine” but have yet to approve a treatment….wonder why?
Who on here are you trying to convince to get vaccinated?
Hüsker Dü
DA
“. . . Yeah but!”
Of course vaccinated people are getting omicron. Of course you will see larger numbers amongst the vaccinated where vaccination rates are high. Let me ask you this, amongst your, presumably, humungous circle of friends, how many are vax'd and how many aren't? Let's start there.
In our county, absolutely the number of vaccinated people contracting omicron are more than the number of unvaccinated. Want to know why? We have around a 90% vaccination rate. The raw numbers do not change the fact that the unvaccinated are more likely to contract the virus by a significant margin. It really is basic math.
what-happened
GOLD
Who exactly are you trying to convince to get vaccinated? Nuance escapes you..And yes, I know you will direct me to some chart or graph.
What counties are you referring to? The counties that are generally in poorer health compared to SCC, counties where socio economic conditions are less than idea when compared to SCC? So many variables. It's looking more and more like masking isn't/wasn't as effective as many people thought. Do they provide some level of protection...sure, in very controlled environments. The vast majority of people don't wear them correctly...and they never will. People like you will, for short amounts of time - running from your car, into the store, then back home, or grabbing take out. People on their feet 8+ hrs a day, moving around, etc are not going to wear their mask correctly.
The reality is permanent masking will never be accepted by the majority, in most cases it doesn't even make sense to wear a mask. Their will be a minority that continues to mask. Have at it, your choice.
baldref
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Nunya....
MicPaPa
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And a big "L" on the way.
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Yeah, so now, since you are so worried about others, we should make sure we stop all fast food, alcohol and cigarette sales, and make exercising mandatory, because Obesity kills almost 3 million people worldwide EVERY YEAR! Smoking kills about 500,000 people a year....oh, but wait, those industries make Billions so let's not talk about that, I'm sure that is irrelevant to you, but it is kinda confusing because I thought you were worried about others and wanted what's best for us all.
How about this, if people can't prove they have done at least 200 minutes of exercise a week (a California Standard in Education), smoke, or eat fast food, they shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital. There is no excuse, everyone can exercise, alcohol is a choice! And if you smoke, forget a hospital bed, you'd probably end up there. Those people are taking up hospital beds, why don't we talk about them, there is such laser focus on unvaccinated.
U.S. spends 200 Billion a year on Obesity and medical cost for those with Obesity is almost $2000 more a year than a healthy person. So if you are so worried about others, so now you can focus on someone else. Wonder how many hospital beds those patients are taking up?
Obesity
Obesity has reached epidemic proportions globally, with at least 2.8 million people dying each year as a result of being overweight or obese.
Obesity is a Common, Serious, and Costly Disease
Get the latest data and facts about adult obesity in the US.
www.cdc.gov
"Significant" assumes facts not in evidence, at least against the omicron. Double Pfizer boost less than 20 percent efficacy at 20 weeks out. Booster Pfizer at around 40 percent 10 weeks out and declining. A better argument is dad4's well if everyone is vaccinated, the population is going to get significantly less infections. Unfortunately, real world data out of Portugal, Spain, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, Gibraltar and Ireland all contradict this point. Where'd you pull "significant" out of? What does it mean?
EvilGoalie 21
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Its been posted.