Vaccine

whatithink said:
I've noticed random things running low in stores and then they are fine and it moves to something else. About a month ago t-paper was low, couldn't get it in CostCo and low in grocery stores, then it was fine. Currently its organic milk for some reason.

Oh yeah, and Flamin hot Cheetos, which is really taking it too far IMO. Thank God they had Takis. Apart from that near disaster, all the stores are well stocked, so not sure where CNBC got their one photo from!
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We are getting things on a delayed basis. Most of the Octoberfest products came in November.
 
Desert Hound said:
And 2 yrs into this....who has been proven right as to what would happen? Team covid or team reality?
As we are seeing day by day reality is setting in and we are moving every closer to where team reality said we would have to end up.
Models do not work when one discounts real world data and does not take into account how people will act.
This is why we do not let math types set policy.
You are like Baghdad Bob at this point.
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Team Reality is on fire and won a long time ago. The Jacovid Witnesses are so wasted on Kool Aid they can't reason even with logic. Too many injections, moo!!
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Add another anecdote. Our local WF was less than well-stocked - not anywhere near empty but certain items were completely out - this weekend and had ridiculously long checkout lines. One of the workers indicated many are calling in sick. The store seemed unusually full but that happens when people are standing in line for over half an hour for checkout. Hard to tell if it is a supply issue or a hoarding issue.
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The “Covid concern” in retail is gone and many are sick as a result. They use to send people home who had been exposed, not anymore, they can’t. Skeleton crews.
 
espola said:
It's those damned covidians again (whoever they are).
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If you rushed out and bought bottled water in 2020 and are now rushing out to buy it again, you might just be a Covidian.
If you say things like "I trust the science" or "I trust the experts", you might just be a Covidian.
If you said we should listen to the experts and trust them, and tut tutted people who bought masks at first, but then rushed out to buy a mask when the experts changed their mind, you might just be a Covidian.
If you have a picture of Fauci in your house or on your SM feed, or have fawned over his documentary or articles, or think he's as great as a patron saint, you might just be a Covidian.
If you think the people you agree with are experts, and you call the experts you disagree with "quacks", you might just be a Covidian.
If you believed the lab leak could only be a conspiracy theory, you might just be a Covidian.
If you found yourself longing to have moved to Australia or New Zealand, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought lockdowns were necessary, including of churches, but then thought the BLM marches were o.k., you might just be a Covidian.
If you mistrusted the Trump vaccine, but then supported vaccine mandates when Biden won, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought things could get back to normal just because Biden won and "would shut down the virus but not the economy", you might just be a Covidian.
If you never considered natural immunity might just be a thing, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are fully vaxxed and not immunocompromised but think it is necessary to wear N95s to the store, you might just be a Covidian.
If you rationalized that the schools should be closed because too many kids could die, then too many kids would wind up in the hospital, then too many kids would get MISC, then too may kids would get long COVID, you might just be a Covidian.
If you supported the travel bans, but then thought what's happening along the southern border is just fine and dandy, you might just be a Covidian.
If you and your family are fully vaxxed, and no one in your household is immunocompromised, but you are restricting your kids social life, you might just be a Covidian.
If you think the schools should be closed, but have no problem going to a bar or restaurant, you might just be a Covidian.
If you sneered at Florida for being stupid, but then thought what was happening in the blue states was uncontrollable, you might just be a Covidian.
If you felt it was o.k. to send out blue collar workers to prepare your take out, or marijuana and liquor, or fix your plumbing, while you worked in your pajamas, then you might just be a Covidian.
If you aren't immunocompromised and are just counting down the days until you can get your fourth booster, you might just be a Covidian.
If you still think cloth masks do anything, or masking of children in schools does anything, you might just be a Covidian.
If you find yourself sneering at red staters for returning life to normal, or for "killing grandma" or for "being selfish", but secretly long to be one of them, you might just be a Covidian (bonus points if you went out and partied in a red state).
If you yelled for lockdowns, including shutting schools, and then went on vacation, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought things should get back to normal once the elderly vaxxed, then everyone, then teenagers, then kids, and are waiting now for the under five set to be vaxxed, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are hoarding at home rapid tests, or voluntarily getting tested on a semi regular basis and aren't around someone immunocompromised, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are still saying the omicron wave is the fault of the unvaccinated, or that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, you might just be a Covidian.
If you called the claim about artificially high hospitalization and death numbers a conspiracy theory, and still are unwilling to acknowledge you were wrong, you might just be a Covidian.
If you post pictures about antivaxxers that have died, and said they deserved it, you might just be a Covidian.
If you've said "kids are resilent" and don't think we've done and are doing profound long lasting damage to them, you might just be a Covidian.
If you still think we can get to zero Covid, you might just be a Covidian.
If you take enormous satisfaction at "doing everything right" with your masks, distancing and vaccines, and then find yourself upset at others when you come down with Covid, you might just not only be a Covidian, but you are also most definitely an asshole.
 
Grace T. said:
o.k. I'm really scratching my head here. The newest push out of the Biden admin is to eliminate the fillibuster (or at least exempt it for this one case) prior to moving through the voting rights act (which already Manchin and Sinema have said they won't do, and several others are on the fence about). Meanwhile, the CDC director is under fire, Fauci is doing his usual combat against the Rs, the Chicago teachers union and several other areas are pushing no school (or no sports), the store shelves in blue cities are running anywhere from Soviet to somewhat bare, inflation is running high, and everyone is getting sick with COVID (despite some people having "done everything right" and triple vaxxed). I really don't get it. Biden campaigned as a moderate who would restore sanity after Trump, but this is some hard core lefty to stuff, and not just hard core lefty stuff (which I'm not opining as to individual policies whether they make sense or don't) but stuff which people don't even really care about now (since a large group of people including some Ds and a lot of independents are really really really really very upset about the wheels coming off on COVID policy which now seems to be everyone is going to get it but let's push it off (for some undisclosed reason) as much as possible). This just isn't good politics so I'm wondering what the intent is....even if it passes the midterms are off the table so the only thing I can conclude is that it's just a long term power grab for 2024 and beyond and they've concluded their chances are so bad that they figure they need to do this (and take the political hit for appearing to be off message with people's real concerns) now or lose their opportunity forever (considering it's a hail mary anyway to begin with!!!). That power grab would have to be so great that it would relegate the Republican party into the wilderness for a generation (since as soon as you get an R president and congress they'll just nuke the fillibuster and undo it all). Mark it in your calendar people: today is the day the wheels came off the Biden admin.
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What is the motive to do this to other humans? Jealousy? Greed? Selfishness? Pride? The Father of Fraud talked way too much today Grace T and I'm so glad to witness liars in front of the live camera. He called Dr. Paul a "Moron" and put down JC. The guilty talk way too much. Burr was smiling as he handed out oranges and asked softball questions. I know what they intended to do all along and we caught them all, all red handed withy emails, text and phone calls and just listeneing to you talk int he car. Your phone is a "bug," FYI everyone. They know it all. ALL OF IT!!!! Cheaters & liars!!! What shocks me the most was how easy it was to buy people off with a few bribes ((good job and good pay)) and some gnarly ass blackmail to keep the "pay to play" alive. It's obvious. I was not thinking people I respected in so many fields would sell out their neighbors and fellow Americans for some extra coins in the stash and the chance to be "top snob" and all cool with the goods and money. It hurts like hell to see people try and tell me to "just do it, get the jab so you can get a job bro" and it's "your fault were not back to normal." or, "you got me sick." It hurts me so much. I cry and that is no joke. I play Martyr and for good reason fellas.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
One can only take so much stupidity, especially from someone who knows better but is just playing up to the moron base.
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I object to:
1. one can only take so much stupidity....civil servant....his job. If a treasure secretary had said that to Bernie under Trump, or a general to an antiwar senator during the Iraq war, there would be hell to pay.
2. "some who knows better"....I actually doubt that. He's either a moron or he isn't and you can't have it both ways. Under your interpret not only did Fauci say it, but he also said something that he knew was false.
3. "playing up to the moron base"....your partisanship is showing. The Rs have been right on Covid....as Virginia shows the public is turning on the Ds....team Panic is morally and intellectually bankrupt and Fauci's list of errors grows increasingly long. He couldn't have done a worse job had he set out to do it, and being one of the Trump slayers is only going to carry him so far in the public eye.
 
Grace T. said:
If you rushed out and bought bottled water in 2020 and are now rushing out to buy it again, you might just be a Covidian.
If you say things like "I trust the science" or "I trust the experts", you might just be a Covidian.
If you said we should listen to the experts and trust them, and tut tutted people who bought masks at first, but then rushed out to buy a mask when the experts changed their mind, you might just be a Covidian.
If you have a picture of Fauci in your house or on your SM feed, or have fawned over his documentary or articles, or think he's as great as a patron saint, you might just be a Covidian.
If you think the people you agree with are experts, and you call the experts you disagree with "quacks", you might just be a Covidian.
If you believed the lab leak could only be a conspiracy theory, you might just be a Covidian.
If you found yourself longing to have moved to Australia or New Zealand, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought lockdowns were necessary, including of churches, but then thought the BLM marches were o.k., you might just be a Covidian.
If you mistrusted the Trump vaccine, but then supported vaccine mandates when Biden won, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought things could get back to normal just because Biden won and "would shut down the virus but not the economy", you might just be a Covidian.
If you never considered natural immunity might just be a thing, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are fully vaxxed and not immunocompromised but think it is necessary to wear N95s to the store, you might just be a Covidian.
If you rationalized that the schools should be closed because too many kids could die, then too many kids would wind up in the hospital, then too many kids would get MISC, then too may kids would get long COVID, you might just be a Covidian.
If you supported the travel bans, but then thought what's happening along the southern border is just fine and dandy, you might just be a Covidian.
If you and your family are fully vaxxed, and no one in your household is immunocompromised, but you are restricting your kids social life, you might just be a Covidian.
If you think the schools should be closed, but have no problem going to a bar or restaurant, you might just be a Covidian.
If you sneered at Florida for being stupid, but then thought what was happening in the blue states was uncontrollable, you might just be a Covidian.
If you felt it was o.k. to send out blue collar workers to prepare your take out, or marijuana and liquor, or fix your plumbing, while you worked in your pajamas, then you might just be a Covidian.
If you aren't immunocompromised and are just counting down the days until you can get your fourth booster, you might just be a Covidian.
If you still think cloth masks do anything, or masking of children in schools does anything, you might just be a Covidian.
If you find yourself sneering at red staters for returning life to normal, or for "killing grandma" or for "being selfish", but secretly long to be one of them, you might just be a Covidian (bonus points if you went out and partied in a red state).
If you yelled for lockdowns, including shutting schools, and then went on vacation, you might just be a Covidian.
If you thought things should get back to normal once the elderly vaxxed, then everyone, then teenagers, then kids, and are waiting now for the under five set to be vaxxed, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are hoarding at home rapid tests, or voluntarily getting tested on a semi regular basis and aren't around someone immunocompromised, you might just be a Covidian.
If you are still saying the omicron wave is the fault of the unvaccinated, or that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, you might just be a Covidian.
If you called the claim about artificially high hospitalization and death numbers a conspiracy theory, and still are unwilling to acknowledge you were wrong, you might just be a Covidian.
If you post pictures about antivaxxers that have died, and said they deserved it, you might just be a Covidian.
If you've said "kids are resilent" and don't think we've done and are doing profound long lasting damage to them, you might just be a Covidian.
If you still think we can get to zero Covid, you might just be a Covidian.
If you take enormous satisfaction at "doing everything right" with your masks, distancing and vaccines, and then find yourself upset at others when you come down with Covid, you might just not only be a Covidian, but you are also most definitely an asshole.
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You seem to have a lot of issues.
 
Desert Hound said:
Imagine someone who for the past 2 yrs was sure his ideas would work.

- close bars/restaurants
- close a variety of other biz
- close schools
- close outdoor sports
- limit travel
- was for silly stuff like testing teams before tournaments at a cost of at the time of more than 1k or so at the time
- wanted people not to visit other people
- as he was looking at his models never took into account human nature and the real world
- was sure the realists who said we are going to have to live with this were wrong.
- etc. etc.

And 2 yrs into this....who has been proven right as to what would happen? Team covid or team reality?

As we are seeing day by day reality is setting in and we are moving every closer to where team reality said we would have to end up.

Models do not work when one discounts real world data and does not take into account how people will act.

This is why we do not let math types set policy.

You are like Baghdad Bob at this point.
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Yep all that in an attempt to avoid flu symptoms (or less) for a few days for 98% of the population. F'ing brilliant.
 
watfly said:
Weird, in Montana you can't get Covid if your sitting down.View attachment 12653
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The real version is that indoor restaurants spread covid. No indoor seating during covid. Please order your sandwich to go at the counter, and eat it outside.

Would you like that sign any better?

Seems to me that you are complaining about the loophole you requested.
 
dad4 said:
No indoor seating during covid. Please order your sandwich to go at the counter, and eat it outside.

Would you like that sign any better?
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What does “during covid” mean?

I’m serious, what conditions equate to “not during covid”?

R < 1?
Death rate per million below X?
After Y has been developed that makes R < 1?
Average BMI is reduced to Z?

When covid is endemic? And by what definition of endemic? Because some of those definitions are likely many years away…
 
Just wait until we ALL find out the "bonus pay" going on right now and all the kickbacks and back room deals in this heist of our lives through "pay to play." We were all born into this rat race of cheating. Worse part, these thieves stole two years of our kids life. Losers will NOT be able to walk down the street.......

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