We will be terrified?
Thanks for the tip. I'll put that on my to do list.
You do much better when you focus on explaining your own point of view. Your attempts to speak for the opposite side come off as annoying and uninformed.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll put that on my to do list.
You do much better when you focus on explaining your own point of view. Your attempts to speak for the opposite side come off as annoying and uninformed.
Annoying= “I don’t like that you are pointing out obvious things that make me uncomfortable”
Uniformed= “you are a heretic that doesn’t understand the true faith”
In any case I didn’t say “all”. I said “certain”. And I purposefully didn’t call you out by name, though your wearing an n95 to the market (which primarily is geared to protecting you and not others and which either points out you are concerned about yourself or you don’t really believe your own rhetoric about masks work) does make me suspect that (whether you admit it or not) you would be uncomfortable with that scenario. I’d also take you at your word were you to say yeah while not thrilled I’m not particularly frightened of catching covid (though to date I don’t think we’ve heard you say that).
“Oh Magoo old chap, you’ve done it again!”
Ugh. 75% attack rate.
High transmission among vax, high transmission among previously infected, and high hospitalization rate among the young.
Hope it doesn't hold up as new data comes in.
Yeah this is one time I wish you had been absolutely right on the money
the high hospitalization among the young is suspect.South Africa skews extremely young and they’ve been doing vaccination by age band. There’s also some skew because South Africa counts as hospitalized er visits. But we really don’t know about this one yet
the others we have good data points already and then there were the models too.
Please explain a non-crazy biological basis for "run out of mutations".
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It’s above. I posted the study days ago. I don’t know if it’s right or wrong but that’s why they are postulating covid collapsed in Japan while at the same time is seasonally exploding in south korea
do better. Try and keep up if you want to play
Biden goes out to eat maskless in DC despite cold, with Kennedy Center event on Sunday
Biden was seen maskless after press secretary Jen Psaki said DC should reinstate its mask mandate to abide by CDC guidelines
P.S. Dude is 79 years old and his face has no wrinkles. WTF? Look at this normal 79 year old.
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As long as you think of ”do masks work” as a yes/no question, it won’t make any sense.
Their effectiveness is neither zero nor one. It’s in the middle.
That makes them ineffective as personal protection, but very effective on a population wide scale…. if your population does the basics like moving life outside and giving other people some space.
It’s your micro/macro distinction, except you’ve had it backwards the whole time.
Where our disagreement has been is you say “in the middle” which on a macro basis I find laughable given the effects we see worldwide (even in vaxx plus mask areas). The correct answer is “a little” which helped a bit against the prime, not much against the delta and probably does bubkis against omicron.
And I have it backwards? I’m not the one who wears an n95 to the supermarket. Your n95 does nothing to add to the collective welfare. If the collective welfare is your concern that’s an indication you either: a. Don’t believe your own rhetoric about masks or b. Are scared and concerned for yourself.
finally I find it laughable that you think people are moving things outside and giving people space still. See pictures of bars in New York? Thanksgiving in the northeast? The mayor up their repeatedly partying? Even most blue checks aren’t doing that except in places they can pressure point like schools (my last business trip a month ago 30% of the airport had chin diapers). Distancing might be Shangri la to an introvert like you…most people won’t do it for 3 plus years and if govt tries to force it at this point you see mass civil unrest.
Ps even your vaunted Bangladesh study if you discount all the criticism and note it was mostly pre delta doesn’t show it will work on a population wide basis. All the evidence (even looking at Scotland v England or orange v Los Angeles county) show it doesn’t. But that’s the essence of religion and belief in a talisman…you’ll never give it up as a matter if faith.
I was talking to a manager at a big box store the other day and he was so stressed out trying to be the mandate enforcer and ref when people argue or fight. Coaches are feeling the stress as well. They just want to coach, not be the health inspector. Even LeBron is getting pissed off finally and finds this all so inconvenient to his life and family. Think how hard it must be for those who got fired from their jobs because they said no to this BS.
Bucs' Bruce Arians tries moving on from players' vax card drama: 'I don't give a s--- about that'
Antonio Brown was accused of submitting a fake vaccination card last month
Los Angeles Lakers' LeBron James 'frustrated' by NBA's COVID-19 testing process
((So are we bro. Some of us got fired and some can;t work because of how Covid 19 is being used to divide all of us against each other. I and others just want to be left alone and to be free and earn a buck like the next guy or girl.
More from my new pal LeBron. We need you big time. You have a big head and loud voice. Help us and we will help you.
"Usually when you have a positive test, they'll test you right away to make sure," James said. "There was not a follow-up test after my positive test. It was straight to isolation and you've been put into protocol. That's the part that kind of angered me. I had to figure out a way to get home from Sacramento by myself. They wouldn't allow anyone to travel with me, no security, no anything, when I traveled back from Sacramento.
"And then I had to put my kids in isolation for the time being, the people in my household in isolation for the time being, so it was just a big-time inconvenience. That was the anger part."
I feel your pain brother Lebron. Look man, I know a man WHO lost his job over the Covid 19 testing. Insane, right? I know another man whose papa was dying and he was not allowed to say good bye, except through a window. Crazy, right? I know a girl who won't and can't get the shot because of Asthma attack and another girl because it's against her Native American Tribes teaching about this.
Bucs' Bruce Arians tries moving on from players' vax card drama: 'I don't give a s--- about that'
Antonio Brown was accused of submitting a fake vaccination card last month
Los Angeles Lakers' LeBron James 'frustrated' by NBA's COVID-19 testing process
((So are we bro. Some of us got fired and some can;t work because of how Covid 19 is being used to divide all of us against each other. I and others just want to be left alone and to be free and earn a buck like the next guy or girl.
More from my new pal LeBron. We need you big time. You have a big head and loud voice. Help us and we will help you.
"Usually when you have a positive test, they'll test you right away to make sure," James said. "There was not a follow-up test after my positive test. It was straight to isolation and you've been put into protocol. That's the part that kind of angered me. I had to figure out a way to get home from Sacramento by myself. They wouldn't allow anyone to travel with me, no security, no anything, when I traveled back from Sacramento.
"And then I had to put my kids in isolation for the time being, the people in my household in isolation for the time being, so it was just a big-time inconvenience. That was the anger part."
I feel your pain brother Lebron. Look man, I know a man WHO lost his job over the Covid 19 testing. Insane, right? I know another man whose papa was dying and he was not allowed to say good bye, except through a window. Crazy, right? I know a girl who won't and can't get the shot because of Asthma attack and another girl because it's against her Native American Tribes teaching about this.
Can we discuss things without going off on tangents? We start talking about the difference between individual and population scale protections. The next paragraph, you’re discussing the fact that the mayor of SF is a self-absorbed twit. Ok. She’s a twit. Can we stay on topic?
As I said, you have it backwards.
A 50% reduction to transmission doesn’t mean much to an individual suffering repeated exposure over a prolonged period. Eventually, you get unlucky.
A 50% reduction to transmission for a population is the difference between a disease that goes nowhere and a disease which doubles every 2 weeks.
More simply, masks are minorly effective on an individual scale, but reasonable effective on a population scale.
What you do with that information is up to you.
