Vaccine

[Desert Hound]

Oh yeah, maybe this was elsewhere, but for the Cal UC Irvine game, the Cal ladies wore masks due to Covid Protocol. Lost 1-0 in overtime.

While they were playing?

Madness.

College age people have basically no risk whatsoever.

People have lost their minds. Have no concept of actual risk.

 

[watfly]

Oh yeah, maybe this was elsewhere, but for the Cal UC Irvine game, the Cal ladies wore masks due to Covid Protocol. Lost 1-0 in overtime.

Only in NoCal. I'll say it again, you can't make this stuff up.

(BTW, KandS I actually looked it up because I thought no way that's just too absurd, sorry for not trusting you)

 

[Grace T.]

rejected, denied

FDA Panel Votes No on Biden's Booster Shot Plan

A White House plan would have rolled out Covid-19 booster doses for all Americans. Shares of Pfizer and Moderna slump.

www.barrons.com

 

[Grace T.]

Washington state outbreak now about to where the prior winter wave was, despite masking and a relatively high vaccination rate. That evil Ron DeSantis strikes again.

Washington COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Washington COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[Bruddah IZ]

yeah, that’s the graph. the top right corner is high vax, high hospitalization. It’s completely empty, because the vax works.

The gray dots aren't blue circled for nothing...they show what you ignore. As usual.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

While they were playing?

Madness.

College age people have basically no risk whatsoever.

People have lost their minds. Have no concept of actual risk.

Yes, while they were playing.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Only in NoCal. I'll say it again, you can't make this stuff up.

(BTW, KandS I actually looked it up because I thought no way that's just too absurd, sorry for not trusting you)

As my wife often says, "Trust but verify."

 

[Desert Hound]

Washington state outbreak now about to where the prior winter wave was, despite masking and a relatively high vaccination rate. That evil Ron DeSantis strikes again.

Washington COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Washington COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Note how the press doesn't really talk about WA.

WA is fairly strict, has high compliance, has high vax rates...

And yet what do we see? A spike in delta much like we have seen EVERYWHERE else in the world. And remember as we look around the world you have various degrees of vax rates, mask mandates, etc. And despite that delta flourishes for 4-6 weeks usually then diminishes. It doesn't care much about masks, social distancing, etc.

This virus is going to spread.

Time we realize that.

Really all we can do ask the highly vulnerable to get vaxxed. Their choice.

 

[Desert Hound]

Washington state outbreak now about to where the prior winter wave was, despite masking and a relatively high vaccination rate. That evil Ron DeSantis strikes again.

Washington COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Washington COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

By the way and @dad4 won't like this either.

The delta is spreading faster in WA vs in AZ. And yet AZ is more open.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I don't know why you are insisting that those advocating vaccines as the safer route to gaining immunity are somehow anti-immune system. Or maybe that's not your argument? In any case, Florida has the worst death rate per 100,000 people right now of all states, and also are tied for, or the worst in the US, when comparing nursing home death rates. I don't think these are good numbers. Maybe Desantis personal finance numbers are looking good? - he invested in some of the monoclonal antibody pharmaceutical companies.

I think having legitimate tools to prevent infection and to help people fight infections (including mAb) are helpful. There is also plenty of history showing the value of vaccines in combatting the spread of infectious disease. I am hoping that the current ebola vaccine trial goes well.

Funny how you guys have it all backwards. The anti-vax folks have been around for at least 30 years. It is the bizzaro Anti-immune system movement that is new. Lol! No need to lay blame btw. The blame is well established.

Reminder: The CDC/NIH/Fauci-backed pause of the J&J vaccine did more to invigorate vaccine hesitancy in the US than any other factor.

 

[what-happened]

By the way and @dad4 won't like this either.

The delta is spreading faster in WA vs in AZ. And yet AZ is more open.

Stop telling people we are open.....getting crowded as it is. My neck of the woods is full of masked people driving cars, running, riding, hiking etc. lunacy..

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I don't know why you are insisting that those advocating vaccines as the safer route to gaining immunity are somehow anti-immune system. Or maybe that's not your argument? In any case, Florida has the worst death rate per 100,000 people right now of all states, and also are tied for, or the worst in the US, when comparing nursing home death rates. I don't think these are good numbers. Maybe Desantis personal finance numbers are looking good? - he invested in some of the monoclonal antibody pharmaceutical companies.

I think having legitimate tools to prevent infection and to help people fight infections (including mAb) are helpful. There is also plenty of history showing the value of vaccines in combatting the spread of infectious disease. I am hoping that the current ebola vaccine trial goes well.

You're thinking is one size fits all so......

BTW California has the most deaths with some of the harshest NPI/SIP restrictions. As far as new deaths go FL is number 36 for fewest new deaths ahead of lockdown happy CA. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I think having legitimate tools to prevent infection and to help people fight infections (including mAb) are helpful. There is also plenty of history showing the value of vaccines in combatting the spread of infectious disease. I am hoping that the current ebola vaccine trial goes well.

Tools is plural yes? That includes monoclonals, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquines, etc. Yes? Or is that too liberal for you?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

You're thinking is one size fits all so......

BTW California has the most deaths with some of the harshest NPI/SIP restrictions. As far as new deaths go FL is number 36 for fewest new deaths ahead of lockdown happy CA. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

California just retained the governor that presided over the most deaths and cases in the U.S. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Both Texas and Florida had more people recover from COVID than CA. Nice job of retaining the #1 COVID Case and Death Governor amidst some of the most restrictive lockdowns. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us. thanks Barry and Joe for endorsing the grim reaper.

 

[Desert Hound]

Stop telling people we are open.

Trust me when I tell you there is a large segment of the population including some on this forum that would be too scared to spend much time in AZ.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Mr. Makary is a gastrointestinal surgeon.

And you are dad4?

 

[dad4]

By the way and @dad4 won't like this either.

The delta is spreading faster in WA vs in AZ. And yet AZ is more open.

That’s because AZ infected so many people early in the pandemic.

If you look carefully at your data, you’ll notice that AZ has almost three times as many deaths per capita as WA.

You’re even getting close to passing New York. They’re at 280 per 100K, you’re at 266. One thousand more deaths and you guys take the lead!!!

Actually, you’ll have a hard time passing Mississippi. They‘re up at 308 already, and are adding 1.4 per day. Just goes to show what can happen when your vax rate is down at 42% and you hold the line against those awful mask mandates.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Trust me when I tell you there is a large segment of the population including some on this forum that would be too scared to spend much time in AZ.

We were in the Dove Mountain area two weekends ago. It was beautiful - "only" mid 90's as a high - so not bad. About 10 degrees cooler (October?) would have been perfect.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

That’s because AZ infected so many people early in the pandemic.

If you look carefully at your data, you’ll notice that AZ has almost three times as many deaths per capita as WA.

You’re even getting close to passing New York. They’re at 280 per 100K, you’re at 266. One thousand more deaths and you guys take the lead!!!

Actually, you’ll have a hard time passing Mississippi. They‘re up at 308 already, and are adding 1.4 per day. Just goes to show what can happen when your vax rate is down at 42% and you hold the line against those awful mask mandates.

Way to avoid bringing lockdown centralCali, in 1st place for Cases and deaths. Gotta love those mask mandates.

 

[what-happened]

We were in the Dove Mountain area two weekends ago. It was beautiful - "only" mid 90's as a high - so not bad. About 10 degrees cooler (October?) would have been perfect.

Not a bad place to be.