Vaccine

a. I see your charming self is lurking here again. Any more c words you want to throw around?
b. If it's so stupid, why ya here?
c. Don't paint all of us with the broad stroke. Some of antilockdowners are not antivaxxer.
d. Your "stupidest thread" claim is demonstrably false. Climate and Weather, President Joe Biden, Today in Fascism and Espola's neighborhood are all more stupid, and that is self-evident.

I suppose that since you are making a judgment on espola's neighborhood that means you actually read it.

To quote a famous man -- "Mission Accomplished"

(...and it's espola's newest neighborhood now...)
 
a. I see your charming self is lurking here again. Any more c words you want to throw around?
b. If it's so stupid, why ya here?
c. Don't paint all of us with the broad stroke. Some of antilockdowners are not antivaxxer.
d. Your "stupidest thread" claim is demonstrably false. Climate and Weather, President Joe Biden, Today in Fascism and Espola's neighborhood are all more stupid, and that is self-evident.
Damn, did someone say "misogynistic troll" three times?
 
By the way here is the link to the article


"But if a country indefinitely forbids its own citizens from leaving its borders, strands tens of thousands of its citizens abroad, puts strict rules on intrastate travel, prohibits citizens from leaving home without an excuse from an official government list, mandates masks even when people are outdoors and socially distanced, deploys the military to enforce those rules, bans protest, and arrests and fines dissenters, is that country still a liberal democracy?"
 
By the way here is the link to the article


"But if a country indefinitely forbids its own citizens from leaving its borders, strands tens of thousands of its citizens abroad, puts strict rules on intrastate travel, prohibits citizens from leaving home without an excuse from an official government list, mandates masks even when people are outdoors and socially distanced, deploys the military to enforce those rules, bans protest, and arrests and fines dissenters, is that country still a liberal democracy?"


And yet.....


Even if they are at peak it's still at least another month and a half of restrictions if they are trying to drive it down to zero again (which is about the same time frame anyways they'll get a helping hand due to changing seasonality)
 
And yet.....


Even if they are at peak it's still at least another month and a half of restrictions if they are trying to drive it down to zero again (which is about the same time frame anyways they'll get a helping hand due to changing seasonality)
One of the selling points with Australia has been that economically they've overperformed the other economies hit by COVID. Not so much anymore.

 
Climate and Weather...stupid

I have not been by since the last badger sighting but climate and weather from about 4 years ago (if memory serves) was one of my favorite threads I've ever jumped on, here or elsewhere. I take it a lot of the posters from that time (although there are still some long-haulers!) have moved on. The infodemic was just in its infancy. It had not yet been professionalized and the methods fine tuned to the point that we see here. So you still had these individual groups who were going to all the trouble to create alternative data sets that they would upload onto the internet, which would then get picked up and show up on the soccer forum somehow. Like they'd wrap a light bulb in tin foil, heat it up, turn it off, take some readings with a digital thermocouple, plug it all into a spreadsheet and conclude that the entirety of black body radiation physics had to be wrong. It was like getting to play along inside a Firesign Theatre skit. So that one was a lot of fun actually. Thanks E for the good times!

As I recall we even had poetry corner time outs when things would get a little heated.
 
I have not been by since the last badger sighting but climate and weather from about 4 years ago (if memory serves) was one of my favorite threads I've ever jumped on, here or elsewhere. I take it a lot of the posters from that time (although there are still some long-haulers!) have moved on. The infodemic was just in its infancy. It had not yet been professionalized and the methods fine tuned to the point that we see here. So you still had these individual groups who were going to all the trouble to create alternative data sets that they would upload onto the internet, which would then get picked up and show up on the soccer forum somehow. Like they'd wrap a light bulb in tin foil, heat it up, turn it off, take some readings with a digital thermocouple, plug it all into a spreadsheet and conclude that the entirety of black body radiation physics had to be wrong. It was like getting to play along inside a Firesign Theatre skit. So that one was a lot of fun actually. Thanks E for the good times!

As I recall we even had poetry corner time outs when things would get a little heated.

I think most of the alternative-fact-based theories that deniers were using have been overwhelmed by evidence, so they gave up trying. They missed a good chance for a topical debate, too, since so far this year's global temperatures have been the lowest since 2014. Untested topics would include Is global warming over? Is this a result of the 2020 economic slowdown? Is this a result of China finally clamping down on greenhouse gas emissions? It could have gone on and on.

Maybe "deniers" is too strong a word -- misinformed comes to mind since there has been so much of that flavor around here lately on other topics.
 
No need. I got my ego boost back in my undergrad days by getting Marty Feldstein to have to issue a correction in front of the entire class. Tripping up Kulldorf on a stats error is small potatoes after that.
Spit that other hook out first.
 
I see we've moved on from the let's question the person's credentials/abilities phase, and are now in the let's question his motives.
They get caught cheating & lying and all they have left is hate with division. Sad how the Elitist behave when caught cheating and so much more. I have to leave the state Grace. The hate I got today from a few is too much for my soul. It's getting bad in some people.
 
83% of Americans (adults and teens only, since younger children don't donate blood) have antibodies from either natural immunity or vaccines yet herd immunity still seems elusive.


I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
 
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
1. Fine
2. It’s the cdc doing it. Thought y’all loved the cdc?
3. They do a comparison to January which is also interesting
4. In the comparison they take a straight 1 to 1 against the single dose us vaccine rate. How magical is that?
 
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
Wait….your not saying that the CDC would issue a somewhat skewed or biased study, are you?

(Que the beginning of a circular, deflectionary argument in 3….2….)
 
1. Fine
2. It’s the cdc doing it. Thought y’all loved the cdc?
3. They do a comparison to January which is also interesting
4. In the comparison they take a straight 1 to 1 against the single dose us vaccine rate. How magical is that?

Which universe did that response come from?
 
I'll hazard a guess that the portion of the US population that donates blood is heavily biased toward getting vaccinated. Just a hunch.

I'll let dad4 tell us the proper name for that phenomenon of biased selections.
You don't need to guess. The diagram shows 63.1% of blood donors had vaccine antibodies on May 21.

You can just compare that to the 18-64 vax rate for late May. That will roughly tell you whether there is a selection bias or not. Just be sure to use the single dose number instead of the fully vaccinated number.
 
Weird that it is so political we have trouble believing a simple study.

They measure antibodies in donated blood to get a rough idea of how much room there is for Delta to grow. This helps them plan for fall, so we don't run out of oxygen when some of us get sick.

Why are we finding fault with this?
 
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