Vaccine

Grace T. said:
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I’m on the do not call list for Mormon missionaries. I broke a couple of them back in the day and they prefer it if they don’t talk to me. A few months ago two adventists approached me in the park where my son was practicing. Gave them a half hour. Broke one of them before she was shuttled away by the partner. Not exactly a hobby buts it’s something I sometimes get sucked into every now and then. It’s not that I have a problem with faith. I’m actually very faithful myself. I just believe it needs to be forged in truth and above all else without fear.
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By "broke" you mean they gave up on you? Or did you mean they abandoned their faith in the face of your overwhelming logic?
 
dad4 said:
Yes. The teacher, while reading a book at story time, made eye contact with every student.

That is how story time works. You speak towards each child in turn, so they know you care about them, and that the story is for them.

Unfortunately, in this case, eye contact also meant respiratory plume contact and covid exposure.

Probably not a ventilation problem. The schematic showed open windows on both sides of the class. Also, the back of the class had far fewer cases than the front. If it were ambient buildup, the front and back would have fared the same.
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Is your idea of ‘story time’ just like reading rainbow on tv?

Yeah, they look at the camera. In the classroom, they’re reading the words while looking at the book (even using pointer fingers to help the kids co-read along with them).
 
espola said:
By "broke" you mean they gave up on you? Or did you mean they abandoned their faith in the face of your overwhelming logic?
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No one abandons years of faith in one conversation. They merely take their first step on the journey by beginning to question it (which is exactly what they don’t want you to do). Sometimes the road leads you back to where you started but you are stronger for having questioned.
 
Grace T. said:
No one abandons years of faith in one conversation. They merely take their first step on the journey by beginning to question it (which is exactly what they don’t want you to do). Sometimes the road leads you back to where you started but you are stronger for having questioned.
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???
 
dad4 said:
Yes. The teacher, while reading a book at story time, made eye contact with every student.

That is how story time works. You speak towards each child in turn, so they know you care about them, and that the story is for them.

Unfortunately, in this case, eye contact also meant respiratory plume contact and covid exposure.

Probably not a ventilation problem. The schematic showed open windows on both sides of the class. Also, the back of the class had far fewer cases than the front. If it were ambient buildup, the front and back would have fared the same.
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The mental gymnast. Is plume your word of the week?
 
N00B said:
So the unmasked teacher, while reading a book, directed air plumes of Covid to a radius of children simultaneously?

Ok, I can’t take that implication from your prior analysis of the effectseriously in this example.

Clearly, the duration indoors in general proximity had a greater statistical impact on the viral dispersion and infection rate.

BTW, where did all the funds go that didn’t upgrade the ventilation in that facility?
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Bingo, you can't assume it was spread when she took off the mask for a few minutes, much more likely it was the hours of prolonged exposure.

Grace T. said:
Yes but most pre symptomatics like the teacher aren’t really presymptomatic. It’s that humans have a tendency to not want to believe they are in fact sick and will defer to other explanations before putting up sick on the list. It’s also that we tend to feel a lot crummier more often than we care to admit.
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That's why the messaging should be focused on the sick. Instead of "space out and wear a mask" for everyone. It should be heavy on "Don't assume it's allergies or a cold, get tested and stay home until you get a negative result. A mask will not protect others if you are sick."
 
Grace T. said:
I’m on the do not call list for Mormon missionaries. I broke a couple of them back in the day and they prefer it if they don’t talk to me.
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Don't be hard on them, they are just kids that have been indoctrinated their whole lives. Many are not on a mission by choice and are miserable despite outward appearances. Plus no religion can really claim the higher ground on truth.
 
watfly said:
Don't be hard on them, they are just kids that have been indoctrinated their whole lives. Many are not on a mission by choice and are miserable despite outward appearances. Plus no religion can really claim the higher ground on truth.
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I give them fair warning before hand. Most though are happy someone is listening to them. Your last sentence is pretty much what I’m aiming for.
 
watfly said:
Don't be hard on them, they are just kids that have been indoctrinated their whole lives. Many are not on a mission by choice and are miserable despite outward appearances. Plus no religion can really claim the higher ground on truth.
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Hah! No claims to higher ground eh? WTF were we doing in Afghanistan for 20 years then?
 
watfly said:
Bingo, you can't assume it was spread when she took off the mask for a few minutes, much more likely it was the hours of prolonged exposure.



That's why the messaging should be focused on the sick. Instead of "space out and wear a mask" for everyone. It should be heavy on "Don't assume it's allergies or a cold, get tested and stay home until you get a negative result. A mask will not protect others if you are sick."
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Given the pattern of those who got sick (it's in the source), it's "more likely" that those seated nearest the teacher were most at risk. If the pattern of those infected was evenly scattered over the room, your statement would make more sense.
 
The deranged and dangerous straw man continues to tyrannize Australia. Two slices:

Currently, Greater Sydney and Melbourne, and regional New South Wales and Victoria, are in various degrees of lockdown. Some of Sydney and all of Melbourne are under night-time curfew – something that has never occurred in Australia before, even under threat of Japanese invasion in 1942.
Even lockdown-permitted exercise walks in the early spring sun are decreed anti-social. A week ago, Victorian premier Daniel Andrews said angrily, ‘Today is going to be a nice day, but stay at home. At home. Otherwise, there’ll be a lot of Sundays spent in hospital’. He’s also said Victorians venturing from home to view the sunset is a dangerous act.
Andrews’s edict highlights how fearful Australian leaders have become of Covid – any Covid, let alone the vast infection and mortality numbers faced by Britain, Europe and North America – and how deeply restrictions on civil and personal liberties have bitten. Thousands of families, including parents and children desperate to care for and comfort loved ones seriously ill or dying, have been sundered by Berlin Wall-like state borders guarded zealously by contagion-fearing provincial politicians, as well as stopped from returning home from overseas.
There is no talk of future freedom. Instead, Australians are told lockdowns are staying, even with vaccines widely available and vaccination rates finally accelerating. Indeed, last Sunday Andrews extended Victoria’s lockdown indefinitely, and Western Australia and Queensland premiers are using the Sydney and Melbourne outbreaks to repudiate prior commitments to end lockdowns and reopen their states once full vaccination rates reach 70-80 per cent.
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It’s Australians generally who are to blame. We wished this upon ourselves. It’s as we were a nation of toddlers, craving parental protection.
We are the ones wanting our leaders to double down. We are the ones wanting to be told by our governments what to do and what not to do to stay safe from a virus one state health minister insisted is the most dangerous bug ever (clearly never having heard about the Black Death). We are the ones meekly giving up our rights and freedoms to politicians who, being on the public purse, avoid the economic hunger games of prolonged lockdowns. And we are the ones turning on friends and neighbours, informing on rule and curfew breakers as if we are living in East German Stasiland.
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