Vaccine

watfly said:
Well that was sarcasm on my part, but the chip he has on his shoulder came from somewhere. How arrogant do you have to be to claim that you are science? Funny you think he bitched slapped Paul, while Paul is not my favorite politician and you could argue his tone, he easily pierced Fauci's thin skin. He definitely hit a nerve and Fauci refused to answer the legitimate questions (or straight up lied) and instead lashed out at the congressman. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. I don't doubt that Fauci is maybe a great researcher, but he's a horrible policy maker and spokesperson. Repeating myself, I was OK with him having a seat at the table he just should have never been driving the bus. He should have never been let out of this lane. What he allowed to happen to our kids is unforgiveable.

Like I said I was a fan of Fauci's and even defended him after several mistakes rationalizing that he made decisions in good faith, but was just naive. (Ask GraceT). Unfortunately, he let the power get to him and he "jumped the shark". But again we are both shaped by our paradigms and the scientific community is very good at "circling the wagons".
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espola said:
If Fauci had retired in 2020, t would have appointed a loyalist to replace him and we would have seen hundreds overdosing on hydroxychloroquine.
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Really? With all those blind Trump worshippers how many actual overdoses were there? Correct me if I'm wrong but the most publicized one turned out to be a poisoning by the spouse.
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:

ClinicalTrials.gov

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Unblinded in July. Not mice.
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NVX. The main players? not so much but they have submitted to the fda for eua anyway. And again, the fda has decided to conduct it's review without consulting it's advisory committe...again.

to recap: pfizer and moderna are pushing for eua without conducting trials on humans. To me that's a bit off putting. even a small human trial to measure antibody levels would be helpful..don't you think? Becuase we have so much trust right now in entire vaccine development community.

I mean, boosting people then measuring levels 2 weeks later would be beneficial...and maybe more impotant, gain more trust. We've been down this road before. The vaccine was the panacea until it wasn't. Are we doing the same with boosters? Here, take this, we don't know if it will work, we haven't really tried it except on small mammals.. Who's in charge? oh yea, pfizer/moderna are in charge.
 
watfly said:
As long as it doesn't cause anal leakage or an erection lasting 4 hours, I'd take it.
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Interesting to see what symptoms concern you.

On our Westpac Cruise on the Enterprise 74-75, part of the routine in tropical climates (most of the cruise, actually) was a corpsman handing out pills similar to synthetic quinine once a week on the mess decks as a malaria preventive. That once-a-week dose was strong enough that I was disqualified from donating blood for about 2 years after returning Stateside.
 
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espola said:
Interesting to see what symptoms concern you.

On our Westpac Cruise on the Enterprise 74-75, part of the routine in tropical climates (most of the cruise, actually) was a corpsman handing out pills similar to synthetic quinine once a week on the mess decks as a malaria preventive. That once-a-week dose was strong enough that I was disqualified from donating blood for about 2 years after returning Stateside.
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that was 1975. I can assure you that is not how it works now. Unless you've had malaria, have been treated for malaria, the wait is 3 monhts if you've been in a country persistent with malarais.
 
espola said:
You are evading the point that since Fauci stayed in office we didn't have to deal with any of this.
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oh gawd...you are hopeless. lord fauci was generally useless after day 10 of the "pandemic". Thank goodness fauci was able to singlehandedly fend off a HC overdose epidemic? lord fauci needs to be hired to end the fentanyl epidemic. let's put him on the case.
 
Happened again said:
oh gawd...you are hopeless. lord fauci was generally useless after day 10 of the "pandemic". Thank goodness fauci was able to singlehandedly fend off a HC overdose epidemic? lord fauci needs to be hired to end the fentanyl epidemic. let's put him on the case.
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I see you searching for a rational viewpoint but just coming out coocoo.
 
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