Vaccine

So the CDC has finally come around and backed off most of the recommendations they had. They acknowledge that the vax doesnt stop the spread any more, etc.

And yet in DC...the mayor is mandating kids (who have no risk) get vaxxed or else...


DC Mayor: All Unvaccinated Children -- Including The Many, Many Unvaccinated Minority Children In DC -- Will Be Barred From School. And Also, There Will Be No Virtual Learning Offered. They Will Be Doomed to Be Uneducated by Mayoral Edict.
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In fairness, they weren't going to learn in DC schools, anyway. So.

The Daily Signal:

The District of Columbia does not appear to have a contingency plan for unvaccinated students, who are banned from attending schools in person this fall after the first twenty days, according to comments made by Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser Thursday.
During a press conference, Bowser, a Democrat, admitted there are no alternative options, including virtual learning, for students who cannot attend school due to the District's vaccine mandate, meaning unvaccinated children will effectively be left without an education.
Over 40% of blacks ages 12-17 are not vaccinated, according to city data.
The Daily Signal asked Bowser what the plan was for unvaccinated students. Washington, D.C. public schools start Monday.
Bowser responded "They can go to school on Monday. But they need to get their vaccinations... and their families will be alerted as to the dates."
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They have 20 days to get their vaccination certificate, then they to be "removed" from public education.

Updated data from the government's vaccine numbers website shows 47% of the black children in the district ages 12-15 had not completed their primary vaccination series necessary to go back to school in person.
Among black teens aged 16-17, 42% are unvaccinated.
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The mandate also somehow applies to private schools.

But hey, this government school thing is working out great, isn't it?

And all those homeschoolers are just crazy nutters.
 
NATE SILVER: Liberal Elites May Have Pressured Pfizer to Delay Vaccine — Until After 2020 Election.

FiveThirtyEight editor-in-chief Nate Silver made a claim on Twitter that’s getting a lot of attention, quite understandably.
Silver was commenting on Twitter on a Politico article about the Trump Administration pushing for fast-track approval of the COVID vaccine in 2020. It makes perfect sense that you would want to fast-track it, to help people as soon as it was possible.
Silver said, “‘Trump pushed for vaccine approvals too fast’ is the worst possible critique of the Trump administration’s COVID policy. That probably saved a lot of lives. If anything approval should have been faster.”
His next comment, though, was the barn burner. He said that “liberal public health elites” pressured Pfizer to “change its original protocols” and delay that vaccine approval, which “had the convenient side-effect of delaying any vaccine announcement until after the election” That action “deserves more scrutiny,” Silver declared.
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dad4 said:
She completely missed the biology.

It was the rough equivalent of taking a quote about the 1919 flu, showing a graph of 1921 flu cases, and claiming the first quote was a deliberate lie.

That's the work of someone who doesn't know the basic material, but thinks they know everything. Lawyer.
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Well good for you for actually watching it.
 
watfly said:
The "science changed" is one of the biggest lies being propagated by the science community. The science didn't change on masks and for everything else "the speculation turned out not to be correct" is way different than the "science changing".
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It demonstrates the power and influence that "academic" science has on the elites and policy makers. People with layman's view of biology, medicine, anatomy, virology, etc were at first mildy amused at the scramble for masks and masking..but then it was like...oh shit, they really believe this and are converting it to policy. Anyway, plenty of water under the bridge. The CDC will now be congratulated for how they've come out and admitted their professional incompetence. Wait until it's all corroborated how pharma and politicians were in cahoots on how vaccine research was influenced and why it was influenced. fun stuff. Vaccines have their place.
 
watfly said:
That's a very plausible theory. The nerds have been bitter about being unpopular and powerless and this is "Revenge of the Nerds" led by Bill Gates. I think you're on to something.
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These Nerds have some sic fetishes' to go along with their psychopathic desires to mass murder us all. They were picked last on the playground and they have now gone all in with their Revenge. Oh shit, The Nerds that know how to mix shit to make bio weapons are not to mess around with brother. BTW, my wife and I now have a nest with just the two of us. You know what that means, right? It reminds me of a cool song to ring in TGIFF!

 
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Nerds always hated sports and only a Nerd would do something like this to basketball hoops. "No sports for you and no close contact for you and no frens to visit and you have to wear a mask and take the jab or you will be fired and kicked out of life." In fact, when my dd and I were kicking the ball around at the park 2+ years ago, it was a Nerd that called the cops on us and it was a Nerd from the City that warned us that they would call more Nerds if we did not leave the park "right now" because the virus was everywhere. I still remember the look on that Nerds face. His eyes were full of fear and dude was obese. It was a Nerd that yelled at me for going Surfing without a mask and it was a Nerd that yelled at my dd at Home Depot for not wearing a mask when the Rona first came. Nerds+Fear= Nerd Fear!!! The Nerds have stolen two+ years of young kids lives. In order to get the plywood unlocked in LA to play hoops, you need to prove as a kid you got all the jabs and you have to wear a mask when you run up and down the court.
 
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Nerds always hated sports and only a Nerd would do something like this to basketball hoops. "No sports for you and no close contact for you and no frens to visit and you have to wear a mask and take the jab or you will be fired and kicked out of life." In fact, when my dd and I were kicking the ball around at the park 2+ years ago, it was a Nerd that called the cops on us and it was a Nerd from the City that warned us that they would call more Nerds if we did not leave the park "right now" because the virus was everywhere. I still remember the look on that Nerds face. His eyes were full of fear and dude was obese. It was a Nerd that yelled at me for going Surfing without a mask and it was a Nerd that yelled at my dd at Home Depot for not wearing a mask when the Rona first came. Nerds+Fear= Nerd Fear!!! The Nerds have stolen two+ years of young kids lives. In order to get the plywood unlocked in LA to play hoops, you need to prove as a kid you got all the jabs and you have to wear a mask when you run up and down the court.
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Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
 
watfly said:
Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
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Motive is key to why Nerds from around the world would mix up bat shit in labs to destroy our way of life bruh. As I sit and ponder the last 6 years, I see now what these Nerd Monsters have been doing. We have a few Nerds here at the forum as well. I tried to be nice to Nerds as foster child but they laugh at me in class because I couldn't talk because of my handicap. I had my Revenge of the Nerd on the playground. Pink bellies, Melvins, Rubber Fingers and throw in trash can to name a few. I was a pissed off little kid because these Nerds and their Nerd teachers were ruthless to me and it was just gnarly bro. As I right all this, the past and the pain that comes with it is real bro.
 
crush said:
Motive is key to why Nerds from around the world would mix up bat shit in labs to destroy our way of life bruh. As I sit and ponder the last 6 years, I see now what these Nerd Monsters have been doing. We have a few Nerds here at the forum as well. I tried to be nice to Nerds as foster child but they laugh at me in class because I couldn't talk because of my handicap. I had my Revenge of the Nerd on the playground. Pink bellies, Melvins, Rubber Fingers and throw in trash can to name a few. I was a pissed off little kid because these Nerds and their Nerd teachers were ruthless to me and it was just gnarly bro. As I right all this, the past and the pain that comes with it is real bro.
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Don't get carried away, I'm mostly being facetious.

But think about it. The pandemic was a Nerdtopia. Not only did their leaders have the podium, they got to stay home and play video games and not be forced to socialize. ;)
 
watfly said:
Don't get carried away, I'm mostly being facetious.

But think about it. The pandemic was a Nerdtopia. Not only did their leaders have the podium, they got to stay home and play video games and not be forced to socialize. ;)
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I'm being honest with me feelings bruh. Think how some of our brave Marines feel about all those endless wars that made a few rich and the rest without limbs or worse, death. I shared my story of survival before my birth before and my 9 lives and how as a cat, I keep landing on my feet. Insane bro to say the least. The Nerds called me a cell and worthless bastard child from another.
 
watfly said:
That's a very plausible theory. The nerds have been bitter about being unpopular and powerless and this is "Revenge of the Nerds" led by Bill Gates. I think you're on to something.
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Remember that Revenge of the Nerds was written by the cool kids.

The cool kids want power, so they assume that the nerds must want power. It's why Kelly has such an easy time imagining this as a power struggle between her and Fauci.

But, to nerds, that's just a political question. To them, if you want to eradicate polio, you need data and vaccines. Power struggles happen, but they are unfortunate.

From this point of view, Kelly's opinion about covid transmission is about as useful as Kelly's opinion about automotive transmissions. She doesn't have the data or the expertise necessary to be helpful with either.
 
watfly said:
Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
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Sand in the skatepark is exactly what Wallensky is talking about with actionable data. It took a very long time for research to turn into policy changes. So we kept the early policies, whether they made sense or not.

We had early indications that gyms were risky and outdoors was safe. But it took almost a year to open up the parks.

The proposal is to shorten that timeframe, so that our policies reflect the available data, instead of just inertia.
 
dad4 said:
Remember that Revenge of the Nerds was written by the cool kids.

The cool kids want power, so they assume that the nerds must want power. It's why Kelly has such an easy time imagining this as a power struggle between her and Fauci.

But, to nerds, that's just a political question. To them, if you want to eradicate polio, you need data and vaccines. Power struggles happen, but they are unfortunate.

From this point of view, Kelly's opinion about covid transmission is about as useful as Kelly's opinion about automotive transmissions. She doesn't have the data or the expertise necessary to be helpful with either.
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I don't expect you to give her opinion any consideration. It's not within your life paradigm to understand it. Just like its not within my paradigm to understand putting the pandemic burdens on children.

However, it represents how many of us that don't live in an academic bubble, but live in a world where we have to make cost/benefit and risk based opinions on a daily basis, feel regarding Fauci. Are we right? Depends on your perspective. It's right for us, but obviously not right for you.
 
dad4 said:
Sand in the skatepark is exactly what Wallensky is talking about with actionable data. It took a very long time for research to turn into policy changes. So we kept the early policies, whether they made sense or not.

We had early indications that gyms were risky and outdoors was safe. But it took almost a year to open up the parks.

The proposal is to shorten that timeframe, so that our policies reflect the available data, instead of just inertia.
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Yes, that's a large part of my frustration. Quick to close on speculation, slow to reopen on data. Like I said I can give a mulligan for the first couple months, but thereafter its shameful what we did to kids.

Like I've said throughout the pandemic the exception should require much more evidence than the status quo. During the pandemic it was the opposite. That's a dangerous precedent.
 
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