Vaccine

Young people praying for America and the world. Make love not war. No more war. My old dear lib pal used to hate war and was 100% against it back in 2001. Now he wants it so bad.

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dad4 said:
Why would energy independence mean no energy inflation? The markets are all linked. People aren’t going to sell West Texas for $40 when Brent is going for $110.

Price still goes up. Independence would affect the trade deficit, but not inflation.
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whatithink said:
Every country has that ability, but it would require them to go nuclear in the short term (which is measured in years).

If you meant fossil fuels, then only the US really, but, for example, we produce 12M barrels of oil a day and consume 18M, increasing production by 50% and increasing refining capacity by the same amount would take years (also).
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So there is nothing we can do about inflation, because that's what your implying? I don't buy the Biden just has bad luck BS narrative. His policies have been inflationary and not anti-inflationary. Name something he has done that has been anti-inflationary? Releasing strategic oil reserves? That's about it and only reduced prices slightly for a couple weeks and not the $.35 he promised. Oh my bad, he also told people to go buy electric cars.

To quote Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are"? He and his administration are so far in over their heads and desperate they've resorted to blatant lying instead of clever little white lies. There was no vaccine available when Biden became president WTF?
 
watfly said:
So there is nothing we can do about inflation, because that's what your implying? I don't buy the Biden just has bad luck BS narrative. His policies have been inflationary and not anti-inflationary. Name something he has done that has been anti-inflationary? Releasing strategic oil reserves? That's about it and only reduced prices slightly for a couple weeks and not the $.35 he promised. Oh my bad, he also told people to go buy electric cars.

To quote Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are"? He and his administration are so far in over their heads and desperate they've resorted to blatant lying instead of clever little white lies. There was no vaccine available when Biden became president WTF?
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I warned you. Its the Liar Liars Club. They just lie and then make fun like Husker Du does. I try to have some satire but not mixed with lies.
 
watfly said:
So there is nothing we can do about inflation, because that's what your implying? I don't buy the Biden just has bad luck BS narrative. His policies have been inflationary and not anti-inflationary. Name something he has done that has been anti-inflationary? Releasing strategic oil reserves? That's about it and only reduced prices slightly for a couple weeks and not the $.35 he promised. Oh my bad, he also told people to go buy electric cars.

To quote Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are"? He and his administration are so far in over their heads and desperate they've resorted to blatant lying instead of clever little white lies. There was no vaccine available when Biden became president WTF?
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Nothing we can do? Hardly.

Our recent fiscal policy set us up for inflation. Some of that is unfunded covid relief spending, and some is underfunded tax cuts.

The oil shock kicked us over the cliff, but we walked ourselves right up to the edge.
 
dad4 said:
Nothing we can do? Hardly.

Our recent fiscal policy set us up for inflation. Some of that is unfunded covid relief spending, and some is underfunded tax cuts.

The oil shock kicked us over the cliff, but we walked ourselves right up to the edge.
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Exactly. And a lot of the covid relief spending was because we shut down business. PPE was mostly a disaster which is what happens when the government hands out free money. The fraud was insane. And yes Trump deserves the blame for the PPE, he should have known better.
 
watfly said:
So there is nothing we can do about inflation, because that's what your implying? I don't buy the Biden just has bad luck BS narrative. His policies have been inflationary and not anti-inflationary. Name something he has done that has been anti-inflationary? Releasing strategic oil reserves? That's about it and only reduced prices slightly for a couple weeks and not the $.35 he promised. Oh my bad, he also told people to go buy electric cars.

To quote Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are"? He and his administration are so far in over their heads and desperate they've resorted to blatant lying instead of clever little white lies. There was no vaccine available when Biden became president WTF?
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My comment had nothing to do with the monetary policy of the Biden admin. They can certainly do more than they are doing, which frankly seems very little if anything of substance. For example, they could guarantee that they would buy (domestic) oil at a certain price point to incentive more domestic drilling and ensuring that those domestic oil companies are not going to be caught out by a drop in oil (beyond their break even). They could also repeal the Trump import tariffs to reduce prices, although I'm not sure that will have a huge effect given the supply chain issues. The Fex needs to be more aggressive in rate increases and reducing the money supply - that would help.

The repeated broad stimulus packages (should have been more targeted) are definitely a contributor to this and are probably the reason the US is leading the way (sic) but the UK & Germany are not far behind and they did not have the same stimuli. So its a global issue with the war in Ukraine being the latest trigger for both the rises in oil and more importantly (for people) food prices given the Ukraine is the 5th largest food producer globally (I believe).

Its not going away anytime soon and the best we can hope for in the short term (which includes active engagement of governments) is a stabilization and gradual reduction. That's my 0.02 worth.
 
watfly said:
Exactly. And a lot of the covid relief spending was because we shut down business. PPE was mostly a disaster which is what happens when the government hands out free money. The fraud was insane. And yes Trump deserves the blame for the PPE, he should have known better.
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Supporting businesses who were forced to shut down or employees out of work because you (gov) shut down their employers was the right thing to do. I agree that it was a free for all and fraud naturally followed.

Conversely for many other businesses covid was a boom period. They don't balance out, but it wasn't all negative.
 
whatithink said:
Supporting businesses who were forced to shut down or employees out of work because you (gov) shut down their employers was the right thing to do. I agree that it was a free for all and fraud naturally followed.

Conversely for many other businesses covid was a boom period. They don't balance out, but it wasn't all negative.
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I was at a seminar recently and one of the economists speaking claimed that the government gave out 3x the amount of money than was lost.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You gotta love that guy!
thehill.com

Fauci says he would not serve under Trump again

White House chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci on Sunday said if former President Trump wins the presidency again in 2024, Fauci will not return to serve Trump in the White House. Fauci, the chief…
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Out of curiosity which Fauci do you love?

Science Fauci: Masks are unnecessary, kids are safer in school, the pandemic is over, the crowded Correspondents Dinner is unsafe

Celebrity Fauci: Masks are critical, supports school closures, the pandemic is on going, the crowded Correspondents Dinner pre-parties are safe

Oh crap, my bad again, I forgot science changes...apparently even in the span of one day.

Fauci is a perfect example of why beaker sniffers should never be out of the lab. All that book smarts crowds out common sense. He never should have been the spokeshole for Covid. He doesn't have the savvy and is too narrow-minded to understand cause and effect of his public comments. He was a sucker for leading questions. I was actually a fan of his to start, but he went off the rails in part generated by his new found celebrity. He was qualified as an adviser but not as the figure head.

www.thecentersquare.com

Poll: Majority say time Fauci should be removed

(The Center Square) – The majority of surveyed Americans think Anthony Fauci should be removed from his role in helping lead the federal government’s COVID-19 response, a new poll released
www.thecentersquare.com www.thecentersquare.com

Brav520 said:
Is Fauci campaigning for Trump?
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Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.
 
watfly said:
Out of curiosity which Fauci do you love?

Science Fauci: Masks are unnecessary, kids are safer in school, the pandemic is over, the crowded Correspondents Dinner is unsafe

Celebrity Fauci: Masks are critical, supports school closures, the pandemic is on going, the crowded Correspondents Dinner pre-parties are safe

Oh crap, my bad again, I forgot science changes...apparently even in the span of one day.

Fauci is a perfect example of why beaker sniffers should never be out of the lab. All that book smarts crowds out common sense. He never should have been the spokeshole for Covid. He doesn't have the savvy and is too narrow-minded to understand cause and effect of his public comments. He was a sucker for leading questions. I was actually a fan of his to start, but he went off the rails in part generated by his new found celebrity. He was qualified as an adviser but not as the figure head.

www.thecentersquare.com

Poll: Majority say time Fauci should be removed

(The Center Square) – The majority of surveyed Americans think Anthony Fauci should be removed from his role in helping lead the federal government’s COVID-19 response, a new poll released
www.thecentersquare.com www.thecentersquare.com


Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.
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So, it’s Science Fauci when he agrees with watfly, but Celebrity Fauci when he diasgrees with you?
 
dad4 said:
So, it’s Science Fauci when he agrees with watfly, but Celebrity Fauci when he diasgrees with you?
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That was sarcasm chief. It's was all opinion and speculation, despite the fact that he holds himself out to be Science. Do you not believe that Fauci has had a lot of mixed messaging and had trouble with leading questions? I know you have a thing for the "science people", but c'mon let's look at this substantively and stop appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.
 
watfly said:
That was sarcasm chief. It's was all opinion and speculation, despite the fact that he holds himself out to be Science. Do you not believe that Fauci has had a lot of mixed messaging and had trouble with leading questions? I know you have a thing for the "science people", but c'mon let's look at this substantively and stop appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.
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No question that Fauci is more spokesman than scientist. That is the job.

I was just amused that you put masking where you did.

I see plenty of scientists who believe outdoor limits were misplaced. I don’t see many scientists who think it was an error to mask up. That complaint comes mainly from lay people who don’t like being told to wear a mask.
 
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Our Country and State are a big mess and we can all start blaming the so-called men in this country. I saw this meme and thought of four avatars. I picked Espola and Sunshine as the men of the 2020s. You guys earned this award big time...lol!!! I picked Dessert Hound and What-Happened as the two guys from the 70s. You guys are fair minded and independent and that's what I love about you both. I truly believe something happen to the men in this country. The teaching to be a man is all messed up and we need to educate the men big time and then help educate the young men so they know how to speak and treat women properly. I am calling on all the men to man up and become a real man, so we can save this country. Soccer can be saved later. America needs fixing and it's about time that ALL the men ((16 and older)) get off the couch, stop playing video games, stop looking at pornhub, stop watching the news on Tel A Vision, get in shape and start making things better for the Elderly, the kiddos and the women. The man fence sitter also needs to jump down now!!!! I see one cat on here that is slowly getting down off that fence and like that a lot :) It warms my heart to see men be men!!!!!!!! After we fix this shit, we can all rest and relax and enjoy the real Pentecost. Mark my words, we are heading into rough waters but those who choose wisely will have the time of their life later :)
 
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