Again, the question was how an unvax’d affects the vax’d.
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But…but….
Thank you Governor Newsome. This is great news for all kids. We can;t kick out 34,000 kids just because they dont want to take a jab. Thank thank you sir. Newsome for President? “We need to fine-tune all this, this is iterative. … We want to keep the kids in school. … We don’t want to see 34,000 kids sent home, quite the contrary. And that’s why I’d say you have to accommodate. And I have all the confidence in the world the school board will work to accommodate.”
And today, the interim LAUSD superintendent proposed that enforcement of the mandate be delayed from January to the start of the next school year in fall 2022.
The governor also stressed that his first-in-the-nation student COVID-19 vaccine mandate — which isn’t set to go into effect until next year at the earliest and is more lenient than some district mandates — “includes personal exemptions, not just religious and/or medical exemptions, so there’s plenty of latitude for families to make decisions.”
And today, the interim LAUSD superintendent proposed that enforcement of the mandate be delayed from January to the start of the next school year in fall 2022.
The governor also stressed that his first-in-the-nation student COVID-19 vaccine mandate — which isn’t set to go into effect until next year at the earliest and is more lenient than some district mandates — “includes personal exemptions, not just religious and/or medical exemptions, so there’s plenty of latitude for families to make decisions.”
Patrick Bateman !
t said he really like Gavin and I like this move for kids sakes. I feel this is way better then my dd being told she can;t finish what she started regarding HSS and stay home. Dad and moms get fired but kids can stay in school. Yay!!!
In Colin Powell's case, it killed him.
Without all the unvaccinated people keeping transmission high, the US would not have had a Delta surge. That Delta surge is what killed Powell.
I can’t argue with how you feel.
Desert Hound
DA
Either that or being 84 may have done the trick. Or maybe it was due to the fact he was in the hospital for multiple myeloma which is a type of cancer. He also had parkinsons.
But yeah it was probably covid.
My dad had Parkinson's and the flu when he died.
what-happened
GOLD
zero covid was never an option. That's the part you don't want to come to terms with. Colin Powell, and others, are high risk. Something was going to eventually cause his death. Is your rationale that 100% vaccination and eradication would have averted a mutation?
Covid in this instant was a contributor, in other years another respiratory virus would have been the culprit.
Desert Hound
DA
Interesting.
So why was it present in highly vaxxed countries and areas of countries with high vax rates?
Also as we saw during delta the vax didn't stop the spread amongst the vaxxed themselves. It didn't work too well. Which is why they started saying boosters.
The reason the delta wave came is because their was a new variant that spread ALL around the world. It didn't care who was vaxxed or not.
Powell was in the hospital due to his cancer. The docs and staff were vaxxed. I believe visitors had to be vaxxed and/or masked. And despite that he died with the virus. He was on the way out either way.
Desert Hound
DA
I think this is where a lot of people got wrong info.
Ireland, Singapore, and South Korea all had Delta outbreaks despite high vaccination rates and masks. Vaccination might have limited the waves but they all got them. Vermont and Iceland despite high vaccination rate.
And against the omicron none of it helping, not vaxx passports, not mandates, not high vaccination, not masks....Los Angeles, New York, Seattle, Denmark, Germany and even San Francisco. The only countries in western Europe that seem to be performing relatively well against their neighbors are Norway (provided their current wave holds in decline), Sweden, and Austria (which doesn't appear to have much omicron due to its travel ban and lockdown with the unvaccinated still in lockdown for another month at least). And those US locations are only 1/3 omicron....rest is Delta still being pushed out.
what-happened
GOLD
Science wrapped in hope and agendas. Hubris is funny like that. She likely had dinner with network physicians and scientists the night before. This was her take away.
Coronavirus health and safety protocols start to impact high school sports
Games are canceled in basketball with uncertainty in the weeks ahead as league play is scheduled to begin.
www.latimes.com
My position is that masks and 16+ vaccination were enough to achieve R<1, for Delta.
Zero? No. Just low level endemic. But low level endemic is far better than 200K additional deaths.
In what time interval would 200k less additional deaths be achieved? ‘Cause it sounds like an arbitrary number given your data inputs…
Ontario schools pushed back
globalnews.ca
Ontario pushes back start of school to Jan. 5, introduces more capacity limits amid COVID-19 surge | Globalnews.ca
The Ontario government says students and staff will return to school for in-person learning on Jan. 5, 2022, and is introducing further capacity limits to large indoor venues.
globalnews.ca
It is roughly the number of fatal covid cases during the Delta wave.
Almost all were preventable.