Vaccine

[what-happened]

Where does your data come from?

Be specific, what data is in question? The data that says vaccines suck and don't stop transmission? Step outside and you'll get the proof that vaccines aren't as effective as originally touted. The data that suggests the risk of cardiac adverse events following the second dose of the mRNA vaccine could be around 3.7 times more likely than hospitalization due to COVID-19 in healthy 12-15-year-old boys.

My position on vaccines has been clear and consistent. I'm vaccinated and have had a breakthrough infection..good for me. No gambits, blowing smoke, etc, suggesting I'm making stuff up and lack a grasp of the subject. A healthy dose of skepticism, reviewing data in VAERs/MedRxiv, leveraging peer reviewed data provides context and helps in decision making for patient care. Granted VAERS and MedRxiv aren't promoted as tools to guide clinical practice, and rightfully so. They still provide plenty of information to form an educated opinion. Depending on the CDC for treatment guidance is like depending on a pharmacist to approve a script prescribed by the person who knows the patient.

Plenty of goofiness going on at places like the CDC and FDA. It's clear that the long term effects of MRNA vaccines on adolescent boys is unknown - only a small # of clinical trials have been conducted. For the most part, most countries have been very cautious with vaccinating this population. Our own FDA has been cautious about the youngest demographic. Let's see how long it take to go from EU to approved.

Let's see if the narrative changes as delta transitions to omicron. delta was touted as more severe for kids. Omicron appears to be the common cold, so far. Why vaccinate a healthy population in the face of a disease compared to the common cold? Silliness. If you want the vaccine, go get one. Wear a mask if you want or if mandated or if it makes you feel better.

 

[what-happened]

So now we see what “news” sources you prefer to have frame your information.

Nice, you cherry picked one of the two. You need some balance in your life.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Nice, you cherry picked one of the two. You need some balance in your life.

Hahaha. Trolls gonna troll.

 

[crush]

That clip is from Orgazmo by Parker/Stone. It's about a Mormon Missionary that becomes a stand-in Superhero in porn movies. Super inappropriate movie but hilarious.

Oh boy, should I take it down? I had no idea, I promise. I was Mormon and adopted and that was hard on me as a kid, I won;t lie. Having those two facts to start grade school is not easy. Add the fact I had a speech problem it was hard back then to navigate life and I was pissed off inside. Church two times on Sunday, no caffine, mid week church and then they forced you to go out and preach for two years when you turn 18. I was not going to go but it was what they wanted me to do. Two years riding my Bike would have ruined me altogether. Can you imagine crush riding a bike around Panama? I had a few pals quit after their 2 year preaching tour and now their Jack Mormons or fall always because as soon as they did what their rich parents told them they had to do in order for inheritance, they quit that church altogether. I was dreading that day when I turned 18 and off to some foreign country preaching the book of Mormon that brother Smith and brother Young founded. Try doing your family tree with Elder Smith and see where you stand in the grand scheme of things in that faith. I got out when I was 16. I love all faiths but that one scared me the most, I wont lie. I did not ask to be born or put into that church, just saying.

 

[crush]

Be specific, what data is in question? The data that says vaccines suck and don't stop transmission? Step outside and you'll get the proof that vaccines aren't as effective as originally touted. The data that suggests the risk of cardiac adverse events following the second dose of the mRNA vaccine could be around 3.7 times more likely than hospitalization due to COVID-19 in healthy 12-15-year-old boys.

My position on vaccines has been clear and consistent. I'm vaccinated and have had a breakthrough infection..good for me. No gambits, blowing smoke, etc, suggesting I'm making stuff up and lack a grasp of the subject. A healthy dose of skepticism, reviewing data in VAERs/MedRxiv, leveraging peer reviewed data provides context and helps in decision making for patient care. Granted VAERS and MedRxiv aren't promoted as tools to guide clinical practice, and rightfully so. They still provide plenty of information to form an educated opinion. Depending on the CDC for treatment guidance is like depending on a pharmacist to approve a script prescribed by the person who knows the patient.

Plenty of goofiness going on at places like the CDC and FDA. It's clear that the long term effects of MRNA vaccines on adolescent boys is unknown - only a small # of clinical trials have been conducted. For the most part, most countries have been very cautious with vaccinating this population. Our own FDA has been cautious about the youngest demographic. Let's see how long it take to go from EU to approved.

Let's see if the narrative changes as delta transitions to omicron. delta was touted as more severe for kids. Omicron appears to be the common cold, so far. Why vaccinate a healthy population in the face of a disease compared to the common cold? Silliness. If you want the vaccine, go get one. Wear a mask if you want or if mandated or if it makes you feel better.

Watch out for this 5 Gee shit bro. I gave up smart phone and just going with walkie talkies. I'm going off grid and out of the city until this gets fixed. I am hated by so many. I poke Bears for fun My wife got family email by one of the outlaw members and they asked if everyone would please take a stupid test before we show up. My wife said were all tested and we will test before we come. I will check my wife out and she will check me out, done, test is over. I cant believe how many fell for this scam. The whole thing is to distract us from the real crimes. Your about to find out what these monsters were planning. Sick fucks!! Look man, I escaped torture bro. They (( The Satanic Cult )) had planed to sacrifice me. It's out of the box and now you know. It's what my adopted mom told me. A dagger was put in my door when I got home from hospital by a true Satanist. These vampires are fucking real, trust me It's time we shut these evil empires down. They prey on children dude. I'm not making this up and does not make me better or worse. Lucky to escape? Yes? Divine protection so I can be a voice? Hell yes. I am so crazy and have no parent controlling my life with inheritance and money now. I know someone right now that if she doesn't get jabbed, no money from dad. I swear. This is fucking insane. No jab, no inheritance now. Guess what happened? She told her dad to keep his damn money. It's so sad what kind of control dad had. Not no more.

 

[espola]

So, remember when the Borg Collective of trolls (EOTL(now GoldenGate)/TheLongGame/Husker/NotInTheFace/espola) spoke loudly about how children were resilient and we shouldn't worry about closing schools? Could they have possibly been more wrong? I don't think so. You hit the nail on the head. There was a very negative outcome and it was worse for disadvantaged children. Not to mention that those imposing the mandates have lied from the beginning about "protecting the children". They still use those words. They should be banned from Twitter.

How School Closures Damaged U.S. Children's Mental Health

A new study shows the emotional price children paid when schools were forced to shut down in-school learning during the COVID-19 pandemic.

time.com

Harvard professor: More school closures could exacerbate 'full-on child mental health crisis'

Professor argues in the New York Times that more COVID-19 school closings could be detrimental to children's health.

www.foxnews.com

Putting words in my mouth now?

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Nice, you cherry picked one of the two. You need some balance in your life.

That collective has zero original thought when it comes to policy/politics - just talking points. Sadly, the current state of the media necessitates seeking multiple sources that have a variety of political perspectives to get any sort of balance.

 

[Desert Hound]

Putting words in my mouth now?

Not really.

You have not been against school closures and mask and distance requirements for the kids.

Why don't you lay out what you are for or against?

I asked you earlier and you declined. WHy?

 

[espola]

Not really.

You have not been against school closures and mask and distance requirements for the kids.

Why don't you lay out what you are for or against?

I asked you earlier and you declined. WHy?

What else have I posted that I don't know about?

 

[crush]

Putting words in my mouth now?

 

[watfly]

Oh boy, should I take it down? I had no idea, I promise. I was Mormon and adopted and that was hard on me as a kid, I won;t lie. Having those two facts to start grade school is not easy. Add the fact I had a speech problem it was hard back then to navigate life and I was pissed off inside. Church two times on Sunday, no caffine, mid week church and then they forced you to go out and preach for two years when you turn 18. I was not going to go but it was what they wanted me to do. Two years riding my Bike would have ruined me altogether. Can you imagine crush riding a bike around Panama? I had a few pals quit after their 2 year preaching tour and now their Jack Mormons or fall always because as soon as they did what their rich parents told them they had to do in order for inheritance, they quit that church altogether. I was dreading that day when I turned 18 and off to some foreign country preaching the book of Mormon that brother Smith and brother Young founded. Try doing your family tree with Elder Smith and see where you stand in the grand scheme of things in that faith. I got out when I was 16. I love all faiths but that one scared me the most, I wont lie. I did not ask to be born or put into that church, just saying.

No, don't take it down. It's hilarious. I just wouldn't show the movie to any Mormon relatives you may have.

Your experience is not unusual.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

What else have I posted that I don't know about?

You sound like Joe Biden's double.

 

[espola]

 

[crush]

No, don't take it down. It's hilarious. I just wouldn't show the movie to any Mormon relatives you may have.

Your experience is not unusual.

I have no Mormon relatives or friends at this time in that church. I'm just super and I mean super grateful my foster mother allowed me to choose when I turned 16 if I wanted to be a Mormon for life or leave the sect. See below pic of me getting baptized when I was eligible at 8 years old. I was bribed with a Bob's Big Boy lunch from my mom and I got baptized. I was out as fast as I could say goodbye though when I got a chance with freedom of choice on my 16th bday. My mom was sad I got out so quick. She soon followed though. BTW, my foster care dad hated God and any church and never went. Greatest man I ever knew. So loving and kind. What man adopts 8 kids with a crazy wife???? He didnt really hate God at the end of his life, he hated that he had to witness his first wife dying giving birth and his baby dd not making it. Then he got fucking Parkinson's. That fucking disease is shit!!! He was so angry inside he kept it inside for a long time. My dad got through it and died with peace and love for God. Now I will share how I sought my revenge. This is not how I should have been and I totally see my ego at play now. At the time, I thought I was doing the right thing. I got all into Billy Graham and listen to his tapes in my pursuit of finding hope on this awful planet we all were forced to be born on. I got all into Jesus and went straight for the guys on the bikes. I actually lived on the same street of their church and I went after these guys with the bible. I wish I had tapes to show you. I never once got a guy to quit his mission to join the church I was going to at the time. Impossible. I matured in the faith and stopped chasing JWs and Mormons. I left them alone and went after pagans instead. My type of guy....lol!!

 

[what-happened]

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Ahhh, blanket statements...because if you don't get vaccinated, you will die..

 

[Brav520]

Ahhh, blanket statements...because if you don't get vaccinated, you will die..

you don’t think this will tip the scales and get those unvaccinated to get the vaccine?

 

[Grace T.]

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Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Nice, you cherry picked one of the two. You need some balance in your life.

So I am now somehow at fault for your choices? Typical

 

[crush]

Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.

I bet Espola loves t now. t got his booster and thinks it's the tone as to how get people to take shot. Hey Mr. T, I will NEVER take a shot. I'm happy for you and Espola are now two peas and a pod.

 

[espola]

Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.

You didn't get a lollipop?