Vaccine

Grace T. said:
This one hit a little close to home, didn't it evilgoalie? Not your MO to lash out like the others. I see it's got all of the covidian-leaning people's feathers in a ruffle, which if it was just an idea to be dismissed, wouldn't inspire such a reaction.

In any case, the author of the piece challenges the assumption that science is necessarily evolutionary. And you make a great point about politics...one of the problems with the covid response is that it got wrapped up into politics.

My point was that the author didn't get it broad enough. the reason why it got wrapped into politics is because a hubris has crept into our scientific thought: that we are actually far enough removed from our animal selves that we think we have surmounted our human limitations and have, with our technology, become proteans if not outright gods. The paradigm shift I am proposing is scientific hubris in the workability in technology. You see this most obviously in the point that espola raised yesterday: every body was really excited about the speed which the mrna vaccines made a response possible, saving lives in the process, but which long term may not necessarily have been the best or most effective approach.
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What merited "lash out"?

I didn't say it wasn't the most effective approach. Those are your words.
 
espola said:
What merited "lash out"?

I didn't say it wasn't the most effective approach. Those are your words.
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feel free to characterize your own response. I'll take you at you word. It was a winner, though....a rare but thoughtful and inciteful idea....careful about dragging it into the L column.
 
Grace T. said:
hey I give you credit where credit is due. A rare inciteful idea for one brief, shining moment, then you go on a small roll, now you are back to your old self. You were saying about old habits dying hard?
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The entire post to which that was written in response was just your lies and fantasies.
 
espola said:
The entire post to which that was written in response was just your lies and fantasies.
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going full troll again, huh?

"oh Magoo, you've done it again!"

Not an ad, BTW, because I'm critiquing your response to my response and not your character (Magoo was a loveable character, beloved by all, only with a tendency to lose his way, an inability to see it, and a stubborn refusal to do what it would take to correct it)
 
espola said:
What happened to "Team Panic"?
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I believe it initially was Team Buzzkill, then Team Chicken Little, I don't recall using Team Panic but I could have. It's just evolution and Covidian sounds more cult-like.

To me a Covidian is generally someone that exaggerates the risk of Covid in an attempt to rationalize mandates and restrictions. Particularly when it comes to placing a disproportionate burden for Covid policies on our children. Most are Covid myopic and incapable of considering a cost/benefit analysis. It is not uncommon for Covidians to be dependent on the government or unions. Diverse in their intellect, Covidians can have an IQ anywhere between 50 to 250; however, they tend to lack "street smarts". They usually prefer an expert's opinion over actual results. Their perspective is often driven by fear and/or a sense of superiority.
 
Grace T. said:
that explains it. You didn't read the article. The point is addressed in the article.
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If have time tonight I'll check it out. Maybe. I suspect my point will not be. Which is fine. But the last of your links I clicked on had some guy come on and start talking about sleeping on a couch.
 
watfly said:
I believe it initially was Team Buzzkill, then Team Chicken Little, I don't recall using Team Panic but I could have. It's just evolution and Covidian sounds more cult-like.

To me a Covidian is generally someone that exaggerates the risk of Covid in an attempt to rationalize mandates and restrictions. Particularly when it comes to placing a disproportionate burden for Covid policies on our children. Most are Covid myopic and incapable of considering a cost/benefit analysis. It is not uncommon for Covidians to be dependent on the government or unions. Diverse in their intellect, Covidians can have an IQ anywhere between 50 to 250; however, they tend to lack "street smarts". They usually prefer an expert's opinion over actual results. Their perspective is often driven by fear and/or a sense of superiority.
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Do you think Grace agrees with that definition?
 
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