Vaccine

It will be interesting to see how public schools evolve. They risk not only losing those who don't support their idealogical direction but also those high acheivers who found out they could do much more in less time when unshackled from the classroom. I don't expect public schools and their supporters to take this loss of power laying down - especially in bluer states such as CA. Expect legislation to make home schooling more difficult to be coming soon.

You’re probably right. They’ve already had a couple of attempts to restrict homeschools in CA.

If they actually succeed, they may not like the results. A small fraction of people homeschool because it is easier than fighting the school district on some other issue. End homeschool, and most of those families are in your face demanding something. And, since they have the resources to homeschool, they probably have the resources to file a lawsuit to back up their demand.
 
You’re probably right. They’ve already had a couple of attempts to restrict homeschools in CA.

If they actually succeed, they may not like the results. A small fraction of people homeschool because it is easier than fighting the school district on some other issue. End homeschool, and most of those families are in your face demanding something. And, since they have the resources to homeschool, they probably have the resources to file a lawsuit to back up their demand.
This is a very good point.

I really want to support public schooling. I was a teacher many years ago and have recently gotten certified again in CA. If they would just focus on serving families' needs and not trying to protect their headcount, it would be much easier to support. I like that schools have gone out of their way to make sure those with special needs are served. They need to do the same thing for advanced students and students who are involved in activities outside of school that may require them to miss time. The responsibility that it takes to manage school while having those activities is an important life skill. It's a shame, really.
 
More likely that by enforcing rules on spaces where you can see people, you shift them to places you can’t see.

I haven’t read the Austrian law. If they restricted movement of the unvaccinated, that’s a big mistake. Same mistake as we made closing beaches and parks.
Grace probably read it. I'll wait for her update and for espola to say "nonsense".

Maybe what they did was issue a mandate that the unvaccinated were not allowed to catch the virus.
 
Grace probably read it. I'll wait for her update and for espola to say "nonsense".

Maybe what they did was issue a mandate that the unvaccinated were not allowed to catch the virus.
I didn't really catch it. It was under my Christmas tree last year. Coming up on 1 year without reinfection and a month old blood test that reads positive for significant Sars Cov 2 anti-bodies......STILL.
 
James Alexander decries totalitarianism even when it is “nice.”

A few weeks ago I wrote a passage simply in order to get my thoughts in order on the way the world is turning. Here it is:

Our modern state ideology, our political correctness, appears to be three-pronged, like the devil’s fork or trident.

The first prong is climate change, its inevitability: carbon emission, global warming, rising sea levels and the need to do something about them.

The second prong is the pandemic, the necessity of dealing with a virus by the negative measures of lockdown, masks, distancing and the positive measures of vaccines and other, somewhat belated, treatments
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The third prong is wokery, or the requirement that we adopt the set of miscellaneous views about ‘Gay’, ‘Women’, ‘Race’ and ‘Trans’ which Douglas Murray has itemized in The Madness of Crowds.

Evidently, great minds think alike, and some great minds organize their thoughts more quickly than other great minds. For after writing the above I saw that Will Jones in an excellent article for the Daily Sceptic entitled “The Unholy Trinity of Social Control” had been the first to see that these three forces have to be assembled into a triad. He called them Covid, Climate Change and CRT (or Critical Race Theory). I admire the alliteration, though I think we might have to sacrifice some it so as not to emphasize the issue of race too much. Here I will call them CLIMATE, COVID and WOKERY. However, the three, whatever one calls them, must be so obvious to all of us that we should applaud Jones for having not only named them but put them together.

Let me try to take the thought a bit further.

We need to recognize that these are three elements of what we should probably call NICE TOTALITARIANISM. The words ‘social control’ do not quite capture the total significance of what is being put forward by our governments. Every government ever in the history of the world has believed in some measure of social control. To some extent, we define government in terms of its achievement of social control – though this, of course, may be minimally or maximally interpreted. The reason I prefer the phrase ‘nice totalitarianism’ is that it captures the fact that the control now, if not maximal, is a lot closer to maximal than anyone would have expected a few years ago. But there is another reason I prefer it: and this is because it captures the distinctively Western, or specifically, in our case, British, tonality of this totalitarianism: the fact that it is nice.

We are being nice, through ‘saving the planet’ (by sitting down on a busy road or sightseeing wind turbines), ‘making oppressed people feel included and secure’ (by tossing a statue into the sea or signing a petition) and ‘preventing Covid deaths’ (by wearing a mask or getting vaccinated). Who would not want to do those things?
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COVID is the name of the threat: it threatens us as individuals, threatening us with suffering and an early death, though our response to it has been interestingly not only collective but coercive. Let us call the response to this threat FAUCISM. (We need a name for the response, to cover the myriad of non-pharmaceutical and pharmaceutical interventions. Anthony Fauci’s name may stand for the whole enterprise, as he is more internationally famous than our own Chris Whitty or Patrick Vallance, as well as more determined and more obviously compromised: and he has become the object of a cult in the United States at least.)
 
William Nattrass asks why, throughout much of the European continent, lockdowns of the unvaccinated have so quickly become the norm. A slice:

It is now common for Covid vaccine sceptics in the Czech Republic and Slovakia to compare the level of state control being exercised against them to the authoritarianism they witnessed in the twentieth century. A regional head of the Czech state healthcare body responsible for enforcing pandemic restrictions recently complained that members of the public were comparing them to the
Czechoslovak secret police during the Communist era.
 
Grace probably read it. I'll wait for her update and for espola to say "nonsense".

Maybe what they did was issue a mandate that the unvaccinated were not allowed to catch the virus.
The details weren’t published, not suppose to kick in until feb 1 but for a while the unvaccinated were lockdown: you had to carry your papers and the police were authorized to stop and check you. Given the history of Austria and fascism , this led to some vocal comparisons. But now everyone is in lockdown (except kids going to school) so it’s a moot point again until details published.
 
The details weren’t published, not suppose to kick in until feb 1 but for a while the unvaccinated were lockdown: you had to carry your papers and the police were authorized to stop and check you. Given the history of Austria and fascism , this led to some vocal comparisons. But now everyone is in lockdown (except kids going to school) so it’s a moot point again until details published.
Nonsense! Oh, sorry, thank you.
 

The cartoon sort of misunderstands the problem. Outhouses worked well in rural areas. The problem was the cities which as late as the 19th century even Paris was filled with feces in the streets. People didn't want to go to outhouses in apartment buildings because they were poorly maintained and stunk. The addition of the sewers (a tech issue portrayed in your cartoon which came much later than the medieval period) actually encouraged people to use them by making them more hygenic to use. It also brought the harrington, which had languished for centuries in limbo, into popular acceptance. It was a tech fix, and it did not occur during the Medieval era and was largely welcomed by the population (if at a minimum for the simple reason they didn't have to pay for latrine cleaners).
 
The cartoon sort of misunderstands the problem. Outhouses worked well in rural areas. The problem was the cities which as late as the 19th century even Paris was filled with feces in the streets. People didn't want to go to outhouses in apartment buildings because they were poorly maintained and stunk. The addition of the sewers (a tech issue portrayed in your cartoon which came much later than the medieval period) actually encouraged people to use them by making them more hygenic to use. It also brought the harrington, which had languished for centuries in limbo, into popular acceptance. It was a tech fix, and it did not occur during the Medieval era and was largely welcomed by the population (if at a minimum for the simple reason they didn't have to pay for latrine cleaners).

The outhouse in the cartoon has a sewer pipe attached (which is pretty much the whole point).
 
The outhouse in the cartoon has a sewer pipe attached (which is pretty much the whole point).

Again you are missing the point. It didn't happen with medieval peasants. People welcomed the sewer pipe because it meant no more stinky outhouses. It was mostly a tech, not purely a legislative fix.
 
This is really fascinating. So people for the longest time have been trying to explain why the virus acted differently in the Americas and Europe than Asia. Yes, it's possible masks helped, but that doesn't explain why Japan had a wave that suddenly went away. Yes, seasonality probably impacts the R but that doesn't explain why South Korea is rising when Japan is falling to almost zero. Yes it's possible Japan's liberal Ivermectin policy helped, bu we know the studies show that at best Ivermectin is only partially efficacious (similar to masks....it's not enough to control an outbreak).

But in this video Dr. John goes over a new study. The study show two likely possibilities: a. more people in Asia seem to have a defensive enzyme called APOBEC3A which helps defend against RNA viruses, and b. the virus has mutated to the point where it's structure has too many errors to remain viable. Fascinating stuff....suggest the end of this may become from an unexpected source and still could very well disappear rather than from human controls.

 
Crash!

Again you don't get it. I get that the point of your joke was to make a stupid partisan point about the antivaxxers. My point back is that the cartoon is stupid for the reasons given, and if anything illustrates the opposite point that it's trying to make, but if anything is so in love with it's stupid partisan point that it fails to notice.

You're doing great! Please continue.
 
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