Vaccine

what-happened said:
The propaganda machine is strong. It has no choice but to move forward with an irresponsible agenda that continues to be divisive. Makes it very difficult to have honest conversations with patients/people who should be vaccianted but refuse. The opposite is also true - having an honest conversation as to why one may wait to get a booster or vaccinate someone who is very low risk. The brainwashing on both sides of the equation is bananas.
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This is having huge impacts on kids and marriages as well. My wife ran into a neighbor friend and she said, "Goodbye, were moving." My wife said, "oh no." "Yup" the neighbor said and "Steve and I are getting a divorce." My wife is shocked but not really. She offered a hug but she said none is needed and both are super ready for it. Married 21 years but she is dome with Steve because? Take a wild guess why she is moving and getting a divorce from Steve? One high school Freshman who will now have a big change coming for her. Down stream destruction is hard to measure when one lives in a bubble.
 
watfly said:
As I mentioned before fear makes people do strange things.

Remember that the unvaccinated don't inherently spread covid. The infected spread covid which can be the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Again people divert what our focus should be on by promoting the two camps of vaxx vs unvaxx.

Lets take a look how you would know someone is lying about their vaccination status:

1) They told you. So then to tell your boss would a betrayal of the trust of your co-worker.
2) You snooped to find out. How would you like that coworker to snoop on your private health business?
3) Someone else told you the coworker was unvaccinated. Now to tell your boss would be rumor mongering.

Their are any number of reasons someone might be unvaccinated. The individual may have other health issues that they don't want disclose that impacts there ability to get a vaccination. You have no idea why they may not been truthful of their vaccination status, but you are perfectly comfortable putting their job at jeopardy without knowing their reasons. That's F'ed up. The unvaccinated person could also have been previously infected.

We're not talking about someone committing a crime here, although I'm sure the left would love to criminalize not being vaccinated. Mind your own business. If your vaccinated don't worry about, and if your are worrying about it then you really don't trust vaccinations, in which case your Exhibit A for why they shouldn't be mandated.
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You forgot one: 4) "But why can't I have both"

Strangely, policies hit a little harder than personality. Clowns.
 
met61 said:
... conclusion: Liberals are racist.

From the article..."Liberal areas, for their part, are home both to more busy international airports and more Americans who suffer the health consequences of racial discrimination."
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They certainly are the ones that look at just about everything based on the color of your skin. Unless you're a minority and a conservative then they only notice your politics.
 
Interesting takes: masks and restrictions haven't done much in Scotland and Wales v. England...Sweden likely will still get a winter wave despite its high natural and vaxxed immunity....they don't know yet if a 3rd booster is enough to confer long lasting immunity...doesn't think they'll be a major wave in the UK even if cases rise.

Dr Raghib Ali: No UK lockdown this Christmas

As we approach Winter, the threat of more lockdown-style restrictions has been re-appearing on the horizon. Just yesterday Health Secretary Sajid Javid tweeted that it was a “national mission” to get jabbed so that we “can get through Winter and enjoy Christmas” while Deputy Chief Medical...
unherd.com unherd.com
 
All of this is your fault, they say.

If you had just listened to the experts (I am trying to use that word with a straight face) and followed their mitigation measures, we could have conquered this thing long ago.

So the whole thing has been a morality play: your "bad behavior" is keeping this going, while my "good behavior" is keeping it in check.

What you're seeing below are two maps of the United States, side by side, separated by roughly three months, depicting the COVID cases that our opinion molders profess to be so concerned about. These maps are generated on a regular basis by the New York Times.
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Well, how about that.

Remember when the map on the left was the fault of Ron DeSantis? Not to mention the vaccination rates of those states, which were likewise blamed (although Florida's vaccination numbers for seniors have been quite high).

And yet with zero changes in behavior, the map on the left became the map on the right.

Are we supposed to believe that everyone in the southeast suddenly started wearing masks at the same time, and everyone in the rest of the country stopped wearing them, also at the same time?

A New York Timesreporter posted the chart on the right and asked how this was possible, given that the governors of those states had generally ignored "CDC guidelines."

I jokingly retweeted him with the comment, "He's so close to getting it."
 
watfly said:
As I mentioned before fear makes people do strange things.

Remember that the unvaccinated don't inherently spread covid. The infected spread covid which can be the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Again people divert what our focus should be on by promoting the two camps of vaxx vs unvaxx.

Lets take a look how you would know someone is lying about their vaccination status:

1) They told you. So then to tell your boss would a betrayal of the trust of your co-worker.
2) You snooped to find out. How would you like that coworker to snoop on your private health business?
3) Someone else told you the coworker was unvaccinated. Now to tell your boss would be rumor mongering.

Their are any number of reasons someone might be unvaccinated. The individual may have other health issues that they don't want disclose that impacts there ability to get a vaccination. You have no idea why they may not been truthful of their vaccination status, but you are perfectly comfortable putting their job at jeopardy without knowing their reasons. That's F'ed up. The unvaccinated person could also have been previously infected.

We're not talking about someone committing a crime here, although I'm sure the left would love to criminalize not being vaccinated. Mind your own business. If your vaccinated don't worry about, and if your are worrying about it then you really don't trust vaccinations, in which case your Exhibit A for why they shouldn't be mandated.
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Listen to the opinions on Aaron Rodgers. There are not a lot of people defending his decision to lie about his immunization status.

Standing up for your convictions? No problem. Let me know how to work with you on zoom.

Lying to me about your immunization status because you think you know better than I do whether I or my family are at risk? No help from me on that one. Have a nice time talking to HR.
 
dad4 said:
Listen to the opinions on Aaron Rodgers. There are not a lot of people defending his decision to lie about his immunization status.

Standing up for your convictions? No problem. Let me know how to work with you on zoom.

Lying to me about your immunization status because you think you know better than I do whether I or my family are at risk? No help from me on that one. Have a nice time talking to HR.
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Karma will hit you in the face dude. Watch and then learn. Your a sad little man who is either doing this on purpose or your dumb dumb. Either way, good day sir.....
 
Our governor has been missing from the public eye for 11 days. It's probably a benign explanation, but it's odd they won't say what's up. His last appearance was getting his booster shot.

www.foxnews.com

Newsom’s wife posts, deletes tweet urging people to ‘stop hating’ as governor deals with 'family obligations'

Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of California Gov. Gavin Newsom, took to Twitter late Sunday to post then delete a message urging people to “stop hating” while her husband has been out of the public eye since canceling plans to attend last week’s climate summit in Scotland.
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Grace T. said:
Our governor has been missing from the public eye for 11 days. It's probably a benign explanation, but it's odd they won't say what's up. His last appearance was getting his booster shot.

www.foxnews.com

Newsom’s wife posts, deletes tweet urging people to ‘stop hating’ as governor deals with 'family obligations'

Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of California Gov. Gavin Newsom, took to Twitter late Sunday to post then delete a message urging people to “stop hating” while her husband has been out of the public eye since canceling plans to attend last week’s climate summit in Scotland.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Prayers up the Governor. I heard some conspiracy theories out there but no need to bring those up. I 100% hope he's doing ok after his last booster shot.
 
dad4 said:
Listen to the opinions on Aaron Rodgers. There are not a lot of people defending his decision to lie about his immunization status.

Standing up for your convictions? No problem. Let me know how to work with you on zoom.

Lying to me about your immunization status because you think you know better than I do whether I or my family are at risk? No help from me on that one. Have a nice time talking to HR.
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I don't condone him lying, but its not somebody else's responsibility to turn him in. The issue is solely between he and his employer.

The ultimate act of selfishness is to jeopardize someone else's employment because of your irrational fear. Politicians are trying to further divide our country along the lines of vaccination status and you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
 
watfly said:
I don't condone him lying, but its not somebody else's responsibility to turn him in. The issue is solely between he and his employer.

The ultimate act of selfishness is to jeopardize someone else's employment because of your irrational fear. Politicians are trying to further divide our country along the lines of vaccination status and you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
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Looks like you are trying to justify your own selfish attitude.
 
dad4 said:
Listen to the opinions on Aaron Rodgers. There are not a lot of people defending his decision to lie about his immunization status.

Standing up for your convictions? No problem. Let me know how to work with you on zoom.

Lying to me about your immunization status because you think you know better than I do whether I or my family are at risk? No help from me on that one. Have a nice time talking to HR.
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“Lockdowns: the most regressive policy position held by so-called “progressives”.
 
Grace T. said:
Interesting takes: masks and restrictions haven't done much in Scotland and Wales v. England...Sweden likely will still get a winter wave despite its high natural and vaxxed immunity....they don't know yet if a 3rd booster is enough to confer long lasting immunity...doesn't think they'll be a major wave in the UK even if cases rise.

Dr Raghib Ali: No UK lockdown this Christmas

As we approach Winter, the threat of more lockdown-style restrictions has been re-appearing on the horizon. Just yesterday Health Secretary Sajid Javid tweeted that it was a “national mission” to get jabbed so that we “can get through Winter and enjoy Christmas” while Deputy Chief Medical...
unherd.com unherd.com
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Not surprised.
 
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