Vaccine

[NorCalDad]

Sure, that's it...*eye roll*

Do adults "eye roll" these days? I thought that that was just middle schoolers. Or at least mine does....

 

[met61]

Do adults "eye roll" these days? I thought that that was just middle schoolers. Or at least mine does....

...I'm sure they vie for attention with stupid questions as well. *blocked*

 

[met61]

Think about it.

The legislative and judicial branches are exempt because they don't fall under executive branch authority. Biden isn't allowed to include them.

You can ask whether Pelosi and her staff are vaccinated. The answer will be yes.

Sure, and their kids and themselves follow mask mandates or business closures/protocols, right? ...be a sheepdog, not a sheep.

 

[dad4]

Sure, and their kids and themselves follow mask mandates or business closures/protocols, right? ...be a sheepdog, not a sheep.

In other words, you completely forgot a key part of high school government class. Now, instead of admitting the mistake, you go for sarcasm and an insulting slogan you borrowed from the internet.

*eye roll*

 

[whatithink]

You think we should watch a Campbell video as a way to learn official government policy.

Why not a Boris Johnson video? Or an NHS video? Is the sovereign government of the United Kingdom suddenly incapable of speaking for itself?

The UK government has a variety of contingency plans in preparation for a potential winter surge, for England, as health is devolved there and Scotland, Wales & N Ireland can and do have separate policies.

They include
- reintroduction of some nationwide restrictions such as social distancing or masks (based on NHS capacity)
- introduction of Covid boosters (at least for the most vulnerable but possibly wider)
- biggest ever flu jab campaign
- Covid passports to access large, crowded venues such as nightclubs
- shortly to give the go ahead for vaccination in children 12 to 15

UK (not England) vaccination rates are at 66% (of total population), with at least 1 shot at 72%.

 

[met61]

In other words, you completely forgot a key part of high school government class. Now, instead of admitting the mistake, you go for sarcasm and an insulting slogan you borrowed from the internet.

*eye roll*

I see, so you believe politicians adhere to the Constitution, precedent, norms...and "key
parts of high school government class." The only mistake was yours... confusing sarcasm with reality.

Allow me to borrow another slogan from the internet... Ignorance is no excuse, or maybe... Book smart Street dumb. (Let me guess Professor, you want a citation).

 

[Bruddah IZ]

The Campbell videos are useful because there does not seem to be any taint of political purpose to them. However, his method of presentation gives mask and vaccine deniers hooks to hang from, even when it is plain they do not understand the whole content of what he is saying. Those mistakes then become "data" others can support or point to in succeeding arguments.

Strawman

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Actually, there may be a much more pronounced net impact differential, given the co-morbidity rate in the US with obesity alone as a factor.

The insurance companies will let us know what the impact i$.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Given your history, I'd be careful with summarizing. Too easy to get it wrong.

In this case, if you think any western government is promoting covid infection as a path to natural immunity, I'd say you have it wrong.

That kind of logic is in Jacob Zuma/Chairman Mao territory.

Are you mad that your maker mandated immune systems for the nearly 8 billion people on this earth?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Hold on here Big Bruddah.

By my math in this world of 8 billion we have 4.6 million deaths.
When you divide that into 8 billion you get 0.000575

And we are shutting down schools, biz, travel, etc based on that number?

Ridiculous. And that is about 2 yrs into this. And we play security/safety theater on this?

If anything you look at that number and think ok...not much of a threat.

Context and perspective are rather important things.

And you nor I will ever see those death certificates. Dying with COVID and dying from COVID are not the same thing. But what the data will show and already has shown is that we should not be surprised that people die. The amount of fear leverage you get from .000575 could replace the statue of liberty with a strawman of the same size.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Think about it.

The legislative and judicial branches are exempt because they don't fall under executive branch authority. Biden isn't allowed to include them.

You can ask whether Pelosi and her staff are vaccinated. The answer will be yes.

… is from page 61 of the late M. Stanton Evans’s 1976 Hillsdale College address, “The Liberal Twilight,” as it appears in Champions of Freedom (Vol. 3, 1976):

If one adopts the authoritarian premises, ultimately one is going to emerge with the authoritarian conclusions. The libertarian shell has fallen away, and we’re left with the bedrock principles of compulsion and the subjection of human beings to a planning elite.

 

[whatithink]

The insurance companies will let us know what the impact i$.

Delta Airlines will charge unvaccinated employees an extra $200 per month from Nov. They (unvaccinated) will also face additional restrictions (starting Monday) including masking & testing. Delta self-insures and says that their avg hospitalization cost for Covid was $50K.

So, either expect everyone's insurance premiums to increase or, expect premiums for unvaccinated to increase.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Delta Airlines will charge unvaccinated employees an extra $200 per month from Nov. They (unvaccinated) will also face additional restrictions (starting Monday) including masking & testing. Delta self-insures and says that their avg hospitalization cost for Covid was $50K.

So, either expect everyone's insurance premiums to increase or, expect premiums for unvaccinated to increase.

Sorry. I meant Life Insurance. Interesting though. Did Delta buy an insurance company? Is that 50k per month or per hospitalization?

 

[watfly]

And you nor I will ever see those death certificates.

Is it that we won't see those death certificates or that the media won't look and report on them? CDC seems to be keeping track, as a mentioned before, according to the CDC 95% of those that have died had 4 other causes of death, which means only about 33,000 died of Covid as the sole cause of death. Could you imagine if a media outlet reported that fact? They'd instantly be labeled as Covid deniers, purveyors of misinformation, banned from every social media platform, cause Don Lemon to crap his pants during a tirade of name calling, etc.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

The other Delta

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Is it that we won't see those death certificates or that the media won't look and report on them? CDC seems to be keeping track, as a mentioned before, according to the CDC 95% of those that have died had 4 other causes of death, which means only about 33,000 died of Covid as the sole cause of death. Could you imagine if a media outlet reported that fact? They'd instantly be labeled as Covid deniers, purveyors of misinformation, banned from every social media platform, cause Don Lemon to crap his pants during a tirade of name calling, etc.

Cancer and Heart Disease are the top two. They've combined for well over a million deaths a year. Both groups have been dealing with attacks on their compromised immune systems for years pre-cov 19 and one might think that Corona has cured both via the Strawman Syndrome erected by Dadspola and Vaxspola. CDC has been tracking this stuff for at least 30 years since the MERS and SARS1 pandemics.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Reminder: The CDC/NIH/Fauci-backed pause of the J&J vaccine did more to invigorate vaccine hesitancy in the US than any other factor.

 

[whatithink]

Sorry. I meant Life Insurance. Interesting though. Did Delta buy an insurance company? Is that 50k per month or per hospitalization?

$50K per hospitalization (avg) apparently. The details of Delta's insurance plan are available online.

 

[watfly]

$50K per hospitalization (avg) apparently. The details of Delta's insurance plan are available online.

Unfortunately, it seems you can't even walk by a hospital these days and not be charged $50k. (yes that's hyperbole)

 

[Bruddah IZ]

The latest report from the UK very clear for the past 14 days, 53% of new Delta infections are among fully vaxxed compared to unvaccinated and 67% of deaths now in fully vaccinated. Dr. Andrew Pollard said the jab isn't stopping transmission & the focus should be on dev nations.