Bruddah IZ
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I am not as naïve as you are in thinking that ALL illegals pay income taxes. Hell, you can't even say that about legal citizens.
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I never said "all."
Bruddah IZ
DA
Depends on what you mean by "working the system".
Bruddah IZ
DA
Good. Neither did I. But how many.....since you googled it?
Bruddah IZ
DA
I can't opt out of paying income taxes.
Then why live in America if you don't believe in paying taxes to a country that you do not believe in? You don't believe in government health care because someone other than you is benefiting from it. You don't want to pay taxes because the system rewards some who are cheating, illegal or otherwise not up to your standard. There are plenty of other countries where you can live on your retirement budget. Why not just go there?
So stop complaining about it then. The only time I've seen people get out of paying taxes is in third world countries where they're too poor to be considered as part of the tax rolls, and in places like that there is so much corruption nothing gets done without paying for services out of pocket. What would you like better?
Bruddah IZ
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I actually do believe in the system. Ironically I am making an argument for those that are legally entitled vs. you making an argument for those that you believe are illegally entitled. Should the illegals take advantage of what the legal citizens have paid in to? Is that the system you believe in?
Do you own research, you don't trust anyone anyway, find your own conclusions, just don't listen to Trump without checking the facts.
No, but I believe in human rights and that all people are considered equal. It's America, remember? Illegal immigration is a political ploy that does not affect your day to day life, you're just looking for someone to get angry at for some unknown reason, just like all Trump supporters. You are not owed anything.
Bruddah IZ
DA
I do believe in paying taxes. I said, you can't opt out of paying income taxes. Consumption taxes are voluntary. Every time I CHOOSE to consume. Income taxes are not. Property taxes are voluntary when I choose to purchase a house. Income taxes are not. Shall I go on?
One cannot opt out of social security taxes anymore than one can opt out of income taxes....
Bruddah IZ
DA
People often frame healthcare as you have here. But if what you are saying is that you're okay with paying for both your families healthcare and an illegals health care then I am all for that. You and the millions that agree with you should be able to do that. Let your own money flow from your benevolent nature.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You mean up to the legal standard that ensures the benefits for normal people survive?
Why can't a republican president, house and senate create a workable immigration policy without executive order? Don't blame the democrats either, that's weak. Until then, I pay my taxes and look at everyone the same because those are American values.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Name a few that would allow me to go there.
Bruddah IZ
DA
I'm not complaining. Just stating the facts for those that miss the meaning of illegal.
Any country where you can pay the visa fee for a year, google it. Trump has made it known that we don't want to let anyone else in unless they have blond hair and blue eyes. Other countries are not so selective.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Gee, I wonder how they became a third world country?
Bruddah IZ
DA
What country are you talking about?
Exactly. We have problems, but nothing like that. Try travel a bit and get some perspective.