Trump Supporters out to Destroy America

justified said:
What are you talking about? Illegals pay income taxes. Everyone knows this. Wait, are you taking what Trump says at face value without checking the facts? Google it.
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I am not as naïve as you are in thinking that ALL illegals pay income taxes. Hell, you can't even say that about legal citizens.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Not true. I'm against people who are essentially against programs that benefit normal people when they spend tax payers money on illegals.
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Then why live in America if you don't believe in paying taxes to a country that you do not believe in? You don't believe in government health care because someone other than you is benefiting from it. You don't want to pay taxes because the system rewards some who are cheating, illegal or otherwise not up to your standard. There are plenty of other countries where you can live on your retirement budget. Why not just go there?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
I can't opt out of paying income taxes.
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So stop complaining about it then. The only time I've seen people get out of paying taxes is in third world countries where they're too poor to be considered as part of the tax rolls, and in places like that there is so much corruption nothing gets done without paying for services out of pocket. What would you like better?
 
justified said:
They are not for you, you don't believe in the system. Don't take advantage of it.
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I actually do believe in the system. Ironically I am making an argument for those that are legally entitled vs. you making an argument for those that you believe are illegally entitled. Should the illegals take advantage of what the legal citizens have paid in to? Is that the system you believe in?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
I actually do believe in the system. Ironically I am making an argument for those that are legally entitled vs. you making an argument for those that you believe are illegally entitled. Should the illegals take advantage of what the legal citizens have paid in to? As that the system you believe in?
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No, but I believe in human rights and that all people are considered equal. It's America, remember? Illegal immigration is a political ploy that does not affect your day to day life, you're just looking for someone to get angry at for some unknown reason, just like all Trump supporters. You are not owed anything.
 
justified said:
Then why live in America if you don't believe in paying taxes to a country that you do not believe in?
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I do believe in paying taxes. I said, you can't opt out of paying income taxes. Consumption taxes are voluntary. Every time I CHOOSE to consume. Income taxes are not. Property taxes are voluntary when I choose to purchase a house. Income taxes are not. Shall I go on?
 
justified said:
You don't believe in government health care because someone other than you is benefiting from it.
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People often frame healthcare as you have here. But if what you are saying is that you're okay with paying for both your families healthcare and an illegals health care then I am all for that. You and the millions that agree with you should be able to do that. Let your own money flow from your benevolent nature.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
People often frame healthcare as you have here. But if what you are saying is that you're okay with paying for both your families healthcare and an illegals health care then I am all for that. You and the millions that agree with you should be able to do that. Let your own money flow from your benevolent nature.
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Why can't a republican president, house and senate create a workable immigration policy without executive order? Don't blame the democrats either, that's weak. Until then, I pay my taxes and look at everyone the same because those are American values.
 
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