The War on Democracy

Lion Eyes said:
The Clinton's taxes, earnings & debt are easily researched.
Read the article I posted.
Or google: Clinton said he "left the White House $16 million in debt." - fact check
Why do you insist on telling folks what they want or think or feel?
I'm not mad about the Clinton's, not mad about Obama, I'm sadden by Trump, but I'm mostly sorry for you...
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My issue was with joe's intentional mischaracterization (always is, it's what he does and believes in), but nice try on attempting to change the venue (narrative) as you attempt to erect a straw man to your liking.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You wrote 60 mil when it was 16, big difference. You and yours stretch the truth all the time, it's all you got. Making something out of nothing, or very little, was a cottage industry for nutters and is now a full blown operation.
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I heard it on the radio, do you understand that I heard the marbled mouth hick incorrectly?
What is the difference, do you think they were really 16 million in debt when they left?

upload_2018-6-8_11-57-6.jpeg I know he is above lying and all.
Bill Clinton--"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - YouTube
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Sheriff Joe said:
I heard it on the radio, do you understand that I heard the marbled mouth hick incorrectly?
What is the difference, do you think they were really 16 million in debt when they left?

View attachment 2737 I know he is above lying and all.
Bill Clinton--"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - YouTube
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He looked like a fool saying that I know that much. The old white, male hierarchy that Bill and Trump represent are a dying breed. Neither can just come out and apologize sincerely (not at all in Trump's case).
 
MakeAPlay said:
I think that the deal wasn’t the best but it was better than no deal and allowing the Russians and Chinese to make clandestine deals with them that undermine our security. There is no perfect deal with rogue actors and enemy states. All you can do is keep them at the table and incentivize them to be as cooperative and transparent as possible.

I know it sucks but not everyone shares American ideals. Not even our current administration....

Good luck to you and your player sir.
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What exactly was "the deal", and how do you know it did any of the things you listed?
Bribing bad actors never seemed like a good way to do business to me, especially when we hold all the cards.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I am not partisan but my parents taught me to recognize right from wrong and to not be silent about it. My mom had the national guard escorting her to class and even having her in this white private school was considered “radical” and “liberal.” You need to get on the right side of history so that your descendants aren’t ashamed of you and what you stood for. America will be a majority brown country eventually whether you like it or not and we will be stronger because the true identity of America is a melting pot.
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There was a right and wrong then, just as there is a right and wrong now.
What you face today is a testament to your mother and others like her.
Its a great country. MAGA.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
I heard it on the radio, do you understand that I heard the marbled mouth hick incorrectly?
What is the difference, do you think they were really 16 million in debt when they left?

View attachment 2737 I know he is above lying and all.
Bill Clinton--"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - YouTube
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Let’s not get into liars because Trump, McConnell, Ryan and the whole gang are just varying degrees of hypocritical anti-American liars.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
There was a right and wrong then, just as there is a right and wrong now.
What you face today is a testament to your mother and others like her.
Its a great country. MAGA.
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The 1960’s were not great sir. Prior to the civil rights movement America was pretty $hitty for people who looked like me and my family so I much prefer this bad but slowly improving country to the hellish nightmare that it was before. I thought that you were a student of history sir.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Let’s not get into liars because Trump, McConnell, Ryan and the whole gang are just varying degrees of hypocritical anti-American liars.
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Not a fan of Ryan or McConnell, but Trump is killing it. Obama, Pelosi and Reid? Not exactly the poster boys for honesty.
Can you please tell us all how and who passed the health care bill?
 
Ricky Fandango said:
What exactly was "the deal", and how do you know it did any of the things you listed?
Bribing bad actors never seemed like a good way to do business to me, especially when we hold all the cards.
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The deal was pretty clear and the key highlight was access to inspections and financial incentives (clearly the only incentive that most of the elite understand) allowing them to sell oil, use the normal financial avenues (clean money that doesn’t get seized). I could go into the economics of it but I really doubt that you care. You clearly have your mind made up and I seriously doubt that you know all of the FACTS (you can’t get the from FoxSpews bro).
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Not a fan of Ryan or McConnell, but Trump is killing it. Obama, Pelosi and Reid? Not exactly the poster boys for honesty.
Can you please tell us all how and who passed the health care bill?
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Economics lessons again. Dump and the Republican majority have been actively sabotaging it, Medicare and Social Security all to finance a tax cut. Look my wife is a business owner and files as an S Corp so we win with the tax cut but we aren’t your average situation. Thanks to their stupid attempt at superheating the economy and spitting in the face of fiscal conservatism in the next 10 years there is going to be hell to pay (and a democratic president will have to pull us out again).

You have to let go of your partisanship and look at the big picture bro.
 
MakeAPlay said:
The 1960’s were not great sir. Prior to the civil rights movement America was pretty $hitty for people who looked like me and my family so I much prefer this bad but slowly improving country to the hellish nightmare that it was before. I thought that you were a student of history sir.
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You're arguing with a self-admitted troll.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Economics lessons again. Dump and the Republican majority have been actively sabotaging it, Medicare and Social Security all to finance a tax cut. Look my wife is a business owner and files as an S Corp so we win with the tax cut but we aren’t your average situation. Thanks to their stupid attempt at superheating the economy and spitting in the face of fiscal conservatism in the next 10 years there is going to be hell to pay (and a democratic president will have to pull us out again).

You have to let go of your partisanship and look at the big picture bro.
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So it is just like QE1&2? I think they are all a bunch of crooks pretty much.
I believe Obama built in when this would collapse.
 
MakeAPlay said:
The 1960’s were not great sir. Prior to the civil rights movement America was pretty $hitty for people who looked like me and my family so I much prefer this bad but slowly improving country to the hellish nightmare that it was before. I thought that you were a student of history sir.
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The 1960s were pivotal in the greatness of our great nation.
 
MakeAPlay said:
The deal was pretty clear and the key highlight was access to inspections and financial incentives (clearly the only incentive that most of the elite understand) allowing them to sell oil, use the normal financial avenues (clean money that doesn’t get seized). I could go into the economics of it but I really doubt that you care. You clearly have your mind made up and I seriously doubt that you know all of the FACTS (you can’t get the from FoxSpews bro).
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Not an answer.
 
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