The right choice?

For the posters that are just trying to get info and perspective. I apologize for the distraction.
 
Hey now some of us can appreciate what you guys say ! We just want you to see our side of it once in a while that US soccer changed our whole game. I was very excited about EC NL it was what I was looking forward to for my daughter I didn't expect the rug to get pulled out from underneath me and now I have to figure out how to keep her doing what she wants to do. That's not easy
It should be the same goal at U15 and beyond, college coaching exposure at showcases.
 
That just shows that you have no clue as to what makes a great person/student athlete/player. I have yet to meet a top level athlete without some sort of edge to them. Keep dreaming of rainbows and unicorns. My player plays in a competitive cauldron where even the weakest player is a YNT player. It's not for everyone. It has to be in your DNA. You might want yours to take up needlepoint if you think that I am nasty.
This post is so true! What seperates the best from the average player, is the edge they play with on the field. All of the top players have an edge to them.
 
This post is so true! What seperates the best from the average player, is the edge they play with on the field. All of the top players have an edge to them.

Not to mention that the college head coaches aren't there to coddle anyone. If a player can't take getting yelled at then D1 is not the right fit.
 
Not to mention that the college head coaches aren't there to coddle anyone. If a player can't take getting yelled at then D1 is not the right fit.
If you understand child development you would know there is a huge difference between a 12,13 year old and an 18-22 year old. Let's hope so anyway. If a child grows up in a home where, for the most part, problems are discussed and resolved, a yelling, screaming adult man is difficult to get used to. If a child grows up in a home where problems are settled with yelling and arguing over everything, that child from a young age thinks nothing of being yelled at whereas the child raised in a calmer environment will take longer to adjust to yelling, abusive coaches. Eventually they all adjust to all the assholes out there.
 
If you understand child development you would know there is a huge difference between a 12,13 year old and an 18-22 year old. Let's hope so anyway. If a child grows up in a home where, for the most part, problems are discussed and resolved, a yelling, screaming adult man is difficult to get used to. If a child grows up in a home where problems are settled with yelling and arguing over everything, that child from a young age thinks nothing of being yelled at whereas the child raised in a calmer environment will take longer to adjust to yelling, abusive coaches. Eventually they all adjust to all the assholes out there.

I need me some child development classes. Those are some pearls of wisdom.
 
If you understand child development you would know there is a huge difference between a 12,13 year old and an 18-22 year old. Let's hope so anyway. If a child grows up in a home where, for the most part, problems are discussed and resolved, a yelling, screaming adult man is difficult to get used to. If a child grows up in a home where problems are settled with yelling and arguing over everything, that child from a young age thinks nothing of being yelled at whereas the child raised in a calmer environment will take longer to adjust to yelling, abusive coaches. Eventually they all adjust to all the assholes out there.

Not sure where this is coming from because my player is quite coddled by us. She does know that real life is not what we provide her. At the same time she is well prepared for what is out there. D1 coaches don't coddle players they aren't parents. If you are so wet behind the ears to realize this then please keep feeding your kid lies and make her wish for rainbows and unicorns. Sports are competitive. Coaches must win or face the loss of their livelihood. Expectations are high and unless your player is going to a PAC 12 or Big Ten school then the scholarship is one year. Florida State had half of their 8 man 2016 recruiting class reaccomodated and it might be 5 of 8 by the summer. Many of you Ulittle parents want to focus on the GDA but Florida St treats everyone like a pro. Do well and thrive. Non-contributors go home. Every year new foreign recruits come in along with top domestic talent. What you have it all wrong if you think that college soccer is a game. It isn't. It's a business. Please if you are serious about your player making it to college soccer, get the fluffy ideas out of your head.
 
Not sure where this is coming from because my player is quite coddled by us. She does know that real life is not what we provide her. At the same time she is well prepared for what is out there. D1 coaches don't coddle players they aren't parents. If you are so wet behind the ears to realize this then please keep feeding your kid lies and make her wish for rainbows and unicorns. Sports are competitive. Coaches must win or face the loss of their livelihood. Expectations are high and unless your player is going to a PAC 12 or Big Ten school then the scholarship is one year. Florida State had half of their 8 man 2016 recruiting class reaccomodated and it might be 5 of 8 by the summer. Many of you Ulittle parents want to focus on the GDA but Florida St treats everyone like a pro. Do well and thrive. Non-contributors go home. Every year new foreign recruits come in along with top domestic talent. What you have it all wrong if you think that college soccer is a game. It isn't. It's a business. Please if you are serious about your player making it to college soccer, get the fluffy ideas out of your head.
1000% true. Way too much rec league mentality on the form and on the sidelines these days.
 
Everyone is saying the same thing- it's just the way we deliver it. We are all here because we love our kids and take the time to research and find mentors and parents who have walked the journey before us.
I interpreted the post much differently . From the original post I got that a kid will need their own focus and grit in order to make it in a D1 environment.
I hope everyone keeps posting and helping those of us who don't know a lot about the landscape but want the best for our kids.
Years ago I got a rude awakening from MAP and NG. It hurt. I realized I had my kid in the wrong place AFTER some private discussions. They gave me real tools to work through that - tools I didn't know about or have the connections to consider. I am indebted.
@Lambchop you are a smart poster and I enjoy your posts a lot. They also make me think. My daughter has only had "yelling joystick" coaches and she's a very cerebral player. I wonder if she does continue to play how that will affect her college and her decision to play.
 
1000% true. Way too much rec league mentality on the form and on the sidelines these days.

I think it's the society. We are told we are special.
Coaches run a business- they do not have the absolute freedom at the club level to make all the choices they want because of politics.
We have leagues for everything. We have patches for everything.
The DA should have been limited and the top 20 in SOCAL- elite of the elite. Now the myth is perpetuated.
For me I have a late bloomer. RAE killed her with the age change. Now she has to work through it
 
I think it's the society. We are told we are special.
Coaches run a business- they do not have the absolute freedom at the club level to make all the choices they want because of politics.
We have leagues for everything. We have patches for everything.
The DA should have been limited and the top 20 in SOCAL- elite of the elite. Now the myth is perpetuated.
For me I have a late bloomer. RAE killed her with the age change. Now she has to work through it

If she wants it she can have it. Power to the girls!!
 
I think it's the society. We are told we are special.
Coaches run a business- they do not have the absolute freedom at the club level to make all the choices they want because of politics.
We have leagues for everything. We have patches for everything.
The DA should have been limited and the top 20 in SOCAL- elite of the elite. Now the myth is perpetuated.
For me I have a late bloomer. RAE killed her with the age change. Now she has to work through it
I agree, we as parents are told and sold a lot. My frustrations are not with the MAP's of the world but rather those that lack the desire to educate themselves. If your DD is good then fantastic. Too many parents just show up and expect DD to play DA, or ECNL on a high level team. If more MAP s were on the sidelines it would clear the field maybe a little more and then competition would be the only true metric. Not good vibes and unicorns.
 
I agree, we as parents are told and sold a lot. My frustrations are not with the MAP's of the world but rather those that lack the desire to educate themselves. If your DD is good then fantastic. Too many parents just show up and expect DD to play DA, or ECNL on a high level team. If more MAP s were on the sidelines it would clear the field maybe a little more and then competition would be the only true metric. Not good vibes and unicorns.

I always say not enough clubs really educate their parents in various important topics. What is development? Club priorities? College recruiting education? etc so they assume things and all hell breaks loose at some point. They say what you want to hear so those checks keep coming
 
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