The Inevitable New The Inevitable Trump Mocking Thread

Umm.... if you go back and look at your own posts, think it's more like I commenting on your prediction that Trump was going to nominate a second Nutter Supreme Court Justice. And now you're chastising me for making predictions? Good grief...


Have YOU ever watched the original " Planet of The Apes " movie.....

Ever.....
 
Trump just doesn't give a shit, too funny and right on time.
MAGA.

US to impose steel, aluminum tariffs on EU, Canada, Mexico


Heather SCOTT, with Jurgen Hecker in Paris
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US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has announced the imposition of steel and aluminum tariffs
US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has announced the imposition of steel and aluminum tariffs (AFP Photo/SAUL LOEB)


Washington (AFP) - The United States said Thursday it will impose harsh tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the European Union, Canada, Mexico at midnight (0400 GMT Friday) -- another move sure to anger Washington's trading partners.

The announcement by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross was sure to cast a long shadow over a meeting of finance ministers from the world's Group of Seven top economies that opens later in the day in Canada.

Ross said talks with the EU had failed to reach a satisfactory agreement to convince Washington to continue the exemption from the tariffs imposed in March.

Meanwhile, negotiations with Canada and Mexico to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement are "taking longer than we had hoped" and there is no "precise date" for concluding them, so their exemption also will be removed, Ross told reporters.

The announcement was confirmed by presidential proclamation shortly after Ross addressed reporters.

Despite weeks of talks with his EU counterparts, Ross said the US was not willing to meet the European demand that the EU be "exempted permanently and unconditionally from these tariffs."

"We had discussions with the European Commission and while we made some progress, they also did not get to the point where it was warranted either to continue the temporary exemption or have a permanent exemption," Ross said.

Ross downplayed the threats of retaliation from those countries, but said talks can continue even amid the dispute to try to find a solution.

And President Donald Trump has the authority to alter the tariffs or impose quotas or "do anything he wishes at any point" -- allowing "potential flexibility" to resolve the issue.

Trump imposed the tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum using a national security justification, which Ross said encompasses a broad array of economic issues.

South Korea negotiated a steel quota, while Argentina, Australia and Brazil have arranged for "limitations on the volume they can ship to the US in lieu of tariffs," Ross said.

"We believe that this combined package achieves the original objectives we set out, which was to constrict imports to a level to allow those industries that operate domestically to do so on a self-sustaining basis going forward."

- Not a western -

French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire has warned before the announcement that the EU would take "all necessary measures" if the US imposed the tariffs.

"World trade is not a gunfight at the O.K. Corral," Le Maire quipped, referring to a 1957 western movie

"It's not everyone attacking the other and we see who remains standing at the end," he said, declaring that the stiff taxes would be "unjustified, unjustifiable and dangerous".

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the EU would respond in a "firm and united" manner to the tariffs.

"We want to be exempt from these tariffs" which were "not compatible" with World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, Merkel told a press conference with Portuguese premier Antonio Costa in Lisbon
 
Trump just doesn't give a shit, too funny and right on time.
MAGA.

US to impose steel, aluminum tariffs on EU, Canada, Mexico


Heather SCOTT, with Jurgen Hecker in Paris
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AFPMay 31, 2018
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US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has announced the imposition of steel and aluminum tariffs
US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has announced the imposition of steel and aluminum tariffs (AFP Photo/SAUL LOEB)


Washington (AFP) - The United States said Thursday it will impose harsh tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the European Union, Canada, Mexico at midnight (0400 GMT Friday) -- another move sure to anger Washington's trading partners.

The announcement by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross was sure to cast a long shadow over a meeting of finance ministers from the world's Group of Seven top economies that opens later in the day in Canada.

Ross said talks with the EU had failed to reach a satisfactory agreement to convince Washington to continue the exemption from the tariffs imposed in March.

Meanwhile, negotiations with Canada and Mexico to revise the North American Free Trade Agreement are "taking longer than we had hoped" and there is no "precise date" for concluding them, so their exemption also will be removed, Ross told reporters.

The announcement was confirmed by presidential proclamation shortly after Ross addressed reporters.

Despite weeks of talks with his EU counterparts, Ross said the US was not willing to meet the European demand that the EU be "exempted permanently and unconditionally from these tariffs."

"We had discussions with the European Commission and while we made some progress, they also did not get to the point where it was warranted either to continue the temporary exemption or have a permanent exemption," Ross said.

Ross downplayed the threats of retaliation from those countries, but said talks can continue even amid the dispute to try to find a solution.

And President Donald Trump has the authority to alter the tariffs or impose quotas or "do anything he wishes at any point" -- allowing "potential flexibility" to resolve the issue.

Trump imposed the tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum using a national security justification, which Ross said encompasses a broad array of economic issues.

South Korea negotiated a steel quota, while Argentina, Australia and Brazil have arranged for "limitations on the volume they can ship to the US in lieu of tariffs," Ross said.

"We believe that this combined package achieves the original objectives we set out, which was to constrict imports to a level to allow those industries that operate domestically to do so on a self-sustaining basis going forward."

- Not a western -

French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire has warned before the announcement that the EU would take "all necessary measures" if the US imposed the tariffs.

"World trade is not a gunfight at the O.K. Corral," Le Maire quipped, referring to a 1957 western movie

"It's not everyone attacking the other and we see who remains standing at the end," he said, declaring that the stiff taxes would be "unjustified, unjustifiable and dangerous".

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the EU would respond in a "firm and united" manner to the tariffs.

"We want to be exempt from these tariffs" which were "not compatible" with World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, Merkel told a press conference with Portuguese premier Antonio Costa in Lisbon
As has been said, "Does it raise the price of beer?" Yes, in this case the answer is yes it does. As the rest of the world opens up for business we are inching our doors shut . . . Conservative? Republican? American?
 
Umm.... if you go back and look at your own posts, think it's more like I commenting on your prediction that Trump was going to nominate a second Nutter Supreme Court Justice. And now you're chastising me for making predictions? Good grief...
I am just better at it than you, not my fault.
 
As has been said, "Does it raise the price of beer?" Yes, in this case the answer is yes it does. As the rest of the world opens up for business we are inching our doors shut . . . Conservative? Republican? American?

Question to Rodent:
Do you understand what you right.....

Answer from Rodent:
Ummm....Well...Kinda....Sheeesh.

Question to Rodent:
Do you just follow Liberal news.....

Answer from Rodent:
Ummm....Well...Kinda....Sheeesh.


Question to Rodent:
Do you fact check what you post....

Answer from Rodent:
Ummm....Well...Kinda....I read the Huffington Post....Does that count ?

Question to Rodent:
Do you get cluster headaches.....
 
QE is the protectionism you're railing about, genius.

Uh... no. It's not. Quantative easing is not directed the way tarrifs and import duties (and the retaliation) are, genious. Quantitative easing is, in the long run, a "tax", but it is a very different type of tax with a very different effects.

But what is most important to this discussion, QE (or the omnibus bill that "signaled" QE is over - even though it's been clear it's over for at least a year now) is not what moved the market on the day you and racist Joe claimed it did. Yet, you persist in that stupidity because... I have no idea.
 
Quantitative easing is, in the long run, a "tax", but it is a very different type of tax with a very different effects.
QE is debt genius. With the same effect that debt always has. And what "different effects" are you claiming that QE has as opposed to tariffs.
 
But what is most important to this discussion, QE (or the omnibus bill that "signaled" QE is over - even though it's been clear it's over for at least a year now) is not what moved the market on the day you and racist Joe claimed it did. Yet, you persist in that stupidity because... I have no idea.
That's been my point all along. You have no idea. You see only what pops out in front of you in the daily news, as most do. The easy albeit wrong, conclusion, that the market is only reacting to tariffs and duties, is all the news or newspapers have time for. You're drawn, like most, to a single industry (steel) as a singular causal mechanism . This is where you people always tend to want to expand the discussion to fit your narrative that the effect of tariffs is larger than the effects of debt. The bond market, a.k.a. debt markets, dwarfs the steel industry. You also fail to realize the similarities in intent of QE and tariffs. Not to mention the outcomes. Just to be clear, I am not a fan of either policy knowing that their effects are the same. They both distort the market by manipulating prices and thus supply and demand.
 
That's been my point all along. You have no idea. You see only what pops out in front of you in the daily news, as most do. The easy albeit wrong, conclusion, that the market is only reacting to tariffs and duties, is all the news or newspapers have time for. You're drawn, like most, to a single industry (steel) as a singular causal mechanism . This is where you people always tend to want to expand the discussion to fit your narrative that the effect of tariffs is larger than the effects of debt. The bond market, a.k.a. debt markets, dwarfs the steel industry. You also fail to realize the similarities in intent of QE and tariffs. Not to mention the outcomes. Just to be clear, I am not a fan of either policy knowing that their effects are the same. They both distort the market by manipulating prices and thus supply and demand.
I was just thinking the same thing.
 
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