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White House to Dems Skipping Town: Enjoy Your Vacation While the Border Crisis Rages


A group of House conservatives led by Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) is calling on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to cancel August recess so that lawmakers can debate a bill to fund Immigrations and Customs Enforcement.

In a letter — signed by 34 GOP members including Roy — sent to Pelosi on Thursday, the lawmakers argue the lower chamber should not break without addressing funding for the agency and the humanitarian crisis at the border.

“We are united in our belief that the House of Representatives should not adjourn for August recess before providing adequate funding to our men and women of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on the frontlines dealing with the ongoing humanitarian crisis on our southern border,” they wrote.

“Additionally, we must address the largest barriers to regaining operational control of the border," the letter added, citing family detention, "the unintended consequences of the 2008 trafficking law that impedes our ability to expeditiously process unaccompanied children," and "loopholes in our asylum laws” as some of the examples.

The GOP members went on to blast Democrats for not moving the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) appropriations bill through regular order, arguing a debate on funding levels for ICE should have already taken place.

Just so I can understand... when you keep bringing up the border crisis, what exactly is the crisis? Like if we set the scary "they" talk to the side, what is the problem that you want to see fixed? Surely it's not that you don't like low cost labor...

Truthfully I wonder if you guys can even remember let alone articulate what issue really is- because this just seems like it has become a dog whistle campaign for Trump in the lead up to the election where he doesn't have much to brag about in terms of achievement.
 
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Just so I can understand... when you keep bringing up the border crisis, what exactly is the crisis? Like if we set the scary "they" talk to the side, what is the problem that you want to see fixed? Surely it's not that you don't like low cost labor...

Truthfully I wonder if you guys can even remember let alone articulate what issue really is- because this just seems like it has become a dog whistle campaign for Trump in the lead up to the election where he doesn't have much to brag about in terms of achievement.
Don’t be dumb.
Look around Ca and count the illegals, if you can ID them just ask them a question.
They women might be wearing a baseball hat that doesn’t fit with 4 kids under 4 in tow and the men you might find in front of Costco stealing jobs from legal people and the illegal kids you will find in our schools stealing the teachers time from our legal kids.
Ya fools?
 
Just so I can understand... when you keep bringing up the border crisis, what exactly is the crisis? Like if we set the scary "they" talk to the side, what is the problem that you want to see fixed? Surely it's not that you don't like low cost labor...

Truthfully I wonder if you guys can even remember let alone articulate what issue really is- because this just seems like it has become a dog whistle campaign for Trump in the lead up to the election where he doesn't have much to brag about in terms of achievement.
Yes, There Is A Crisis At The Border — The Numbers Show It

Illegal Immigration: Democrats and the mainstream press accuse President Donald Trump of manufacturing a crisis at the border. The numbers tell another story.

As soon as the words "growing humanitarian and security crisis at our Southern border" left Trump's lips in his Oval Office address this week, Democrats and media "fact-checkers" were trying to dispel it as a deliberate lie.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Trump "must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must reopen the government

Border Crossings Climbing
NPR's "fact check" — like countless others — dismissed Trump's claim as false because "illegal border crossings in the most recent fiscal year (ending in September 2018) were actually lower than in either 2016 or 2014."

What they aren't telling you is border patrol agents apprehended more than 100,000 people trying to enter the country illegally in just October and November of last year. Or that that number is way up from the same two months the year before.

Nor do they mention that last year, the border patrol apprehended more than half a million people trying to get into the country illegally. And that number, too, is up from the year before.

Downplaying Number Of Illegals
Trump's critics certainly don't bother to mention that those figures only count illegals the border patrol caught. It does not count the ones who eluded border patrol agents and got into the country.

The Department of Homeland Security claims that about 20% of illegal border crossers make it into the country. Other studies, however, say border agents fail to apprehend as much as 50% of illegal crossers.

Even at the lower percentage, that means that 104,000 illegals made it into the country in 2018 alone.

It is, in short, a massive number.

Here's more perspective. The U.S. is virtually alone in the world in having such a large share of its population in the country illegally.

An analysis by the nonpartisan ProCon.org found that in 2010 almost 4% of the U.S. population was in the country illegally. The average for 13 other countries it analyzed was just 1.3%.

In France, for example, illegals make up just 0.9% of its population. It's 0.3% in Germany, 0.8% in Spain, and 0.5% in the Netherlands.

Isn't having millions in the country illegally, with thousands joining them every day, not a crisis at the border?

Illegals and Crime
Critics also complain that Trump overstated the risk of illegal immigrants committing crimes. They all point to a report from the Cato Institute, a pro-immigration libertarian think tank. Cato did a statistical analysis of census data and concluded that incarceration rates for Hispanic illegals were slightly lower than those of the native-born.

But the Center for Immigration Studies looked at federal crime statistics. It found that noncitizens accounted for more than 20% of federal convictions, even though they make up just 8.4% of the population.

"It is almost certain that a majority of noncitizens convicted of federal crimes are illegal immigrants," said Steven Camarota of the CIS.

Texas also has been monitoring crimes committed by illegals. It reports that from 2011 to 2018, it booked 186,000 illegal aliens. Police charged them with a total of 292,000 crimes. Those included 539 murders, 32,000 assaults, 3,426 sexual assaults, and almost 3,000 weapons charges.

Even if Cato is right that the crime rate among Hispanic illegals is a bit lower than for natives, that's cold comfort to victims of these crimes, which would not have happened had the border been more secure. They would likely agree with Trump about their being a crisis at the border.

Past Presidents Promised To Fix This
Here's another problem with claims that we don't have a crisis at the border.

Past presidents all treated it like one.

In 1982, for example, President Ronald Reagan said that "The ongoing migration of persons to the United States in violation of our laws is a serious national problem detrimental to the interests of the United States."

President Bill Clinton said in his 1995 State of the Union address that "All Americans … are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country." That's why, he said, "our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders."

President George Bush, in a prime-time Oval Office speech in 2006, declared that securing the U.S. border is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security."

Bush also promised to end the practice of catch-and-release "once and for all." He said that "people will know that they'll be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally."

President Barack Obama in 2005 declared that "we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked." And in 2014 even he admitted there was a crisis on the border — one that he did virtually nothing to fix. (Apprehensions at the border last year were almost the same as in 2014.)

What Is A Crisis?
Yet despite repeated promises by presidents and Congress for the past three decades, the border remains nearly as porous as ever. And catch-and-release is still alive and well. Is it any wonder so many try to cross the border illegally every month?

Isn't the failure of leaders to do what they all say is necessary to protect national security interests the very definition of a crisis at the border?

Democrats, it seems, want to label everything a crisis. We have a health care crisis. A clean water crisis. A "food desert" crisis. An infrastructure crisis. A homelessness crisis.

Democrats label just about everything a crisis. Why? Because they want to whip up public support for bigger, more expensive, more intrusive government

Is that not a crisis at the border?
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-crisis-at-the-border/
 
Yes, There Is A Crisis At The Border — The Numbers Show It

Illegal Immigration: Democrats and the mainstream press accuse President Donald Trump of manufacturing a crisis at the border. The numbers tell another story.

As soon as the words "growing humanitarian and security crisis at our Southern border" left Trump's lips in his Oval Office address this week, Democrats and media "fact-checkers" were trying to dispel it as a deliberate lie.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Trump "must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must reopen the government

Border Crossings Climbing
NPR's "fact check" — like countless others — dismissed Trump's claim as false because "illegal border crossings in the most recent fiscal year (ending in September 2018) were actually lower than in either 2016 or 2014."

What they aren't telling you is border patrol agents apprehended more than 100,000 people trying to enter the country illegally in just October and November of last year. Or that that number is way up from the same two months the year before.

Nor do they mention that last year, the border patrol apprehended more than half a million people trying to get into the country illegally. And that number, too, is up from the year before.

Downplaying Number Of Illegals
Trump's critics certainly don't bother to mention that those figures only count illegals the border patrol caught. It does not count the ones who eluded border patrol agents and got into the country.

The Department of Homeland Security claims that about 20% of illegal border crossers make it into the country. Other studies, however, say border agents fail to apprehend as much as 50% of illegal crossers.

Even at the lower percentage, that means that 104,000 illegals made it into the country in 2018 alone.

It is, in short, a massive number.

Here's more perspective. The U.S. is virtually alone in the world in having such a large share of its population in the country illegally.

An analysis by the nonpartisan ProCon.org found that in 2010 almost 4% of the U.S. population was in the country illegally. The average for 13 other countries it analyzed was just 1.3%.

In France, for example, illegals make up just 0.9% of its population. It's 0.3% in Germany, 0.8% in Spain, and 0.5% in the Netherlands.

Isn't having millions in the country illegally, with thousands joining them every day, not a crisis at the border?

Illegals and Crime
Critics also complain that Trump overstated the risk of illegal immigrants committing crimes. They all point to a report from the Cato Institute, a pro-immigration libertarian think tank. Cato did a statistical analysis of census data and concluded that incarceration rates for Hispanic illegals were slightly lower than those of the native-born.

But the Center for Immigration Studies looked at federal crime statistics. It found that noncitizens accounted for more than 20% of federal convictions, even though they make up just 8.4% of the population.

"It is almost certain that a majority of noncitizens convicted of federal crimes are illegal immigrants," said Steven Camarota of the CIS.

Texas also has been monitoring crimes committed by illegals. It reports that from 2011 to 2018, it booked 186,000 illegal aliens. Police charged them with a total of 292,000 crimes. Those included 539 murders, 32,000 assaults, 3,426 sexual assaults, and almost 3,000 weapons charges.

Even if Cato is right that the crime rate among Hispanic illegals is a bit lower than for natives, that's cold comfort to victims of these crimes, which would not have happened had the border been more secure. They would likely agree with Trump about their being a crisis at the border.

Past Presidents Promised To Fix This
Here's another problem with claims that we don't have a crisis at the border.

Past presidents all treated it like one.

In 1982, for example, President Ronald Reagan said that "The ongoing migration of persons to the United States in violation of our laws is a serious national problem detrimental to the interests of the United States."

President Bill Clinton said in his 1995 State of the Union address that "All Americans … are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country." That's why, he said, "our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders."

President George Bush, in a prime-time Oval Office speech in 2006, declared that securing the U.S. border is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security."

Bush also promised to end the practice of catch-and-release "once and for all." He said that "people will know that they'll be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally."

President Barack Obama in 2005 declared that "we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked." And in 2014 even he admitted there was a crisis on the border — one that he did virtually nothing to fix. (Apprehensions at the border last year were almost the same as in 2014.)

What Is A Crisis?
Yet despite repeated promises by presidents and Congress for the past three decades, the border remains nearly as porous as ever. And catch-and-release is still alive and well. Is it any wonder so many try to cross the border illegally every month?

Isn't the failure of leaders to do what they all say is necessary to protect national security interests the very definition of a crisis at the border?

Democrats, it seems, want to label everything a crisis. We have a health care crisis. A clean water crisis. A "food desert" crisis. An infrastructure crisis. A homelessness crisis.

Democrats label just about everything a crisis. Why? Because they want to whip up public support for bigger, more expensive, more intrusive government

Is that not a crisis at the border?
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-crisis-at-the-border/
That is a load of garbage. Any article talking about the border and immigration that only cites "the Democrats" as the problem and doesn't detail the actions the current admin has undertaken designed to get the result they are claiming as a "crisis" . . . eliminating aid, pulling/ limiting immigration judges, limiting aid to asylum seeking refugees in detention, changing/and or ignoring laws in concerns to length of time individuals can be held, etc. etc. All in an effort to get more people to concede to the building of a monument to t for all his pigeons to admire and worship at.
 
That is a load of garbage. Any article talking about the border and immigration that only cites "the Democrats" as the problem and doesn't detail the actions the current admin has undertaken designed to get the result they are claiming as a "crisis" . . . eliminating aid, pulling/ limiting immigration judges, limiting aid to asylum seeking refugees in detention, changing/and or ignoring laws in concerns to length of time individuals can be held, etc. etc. All in an effort to get more people to concede to the building of a monument to t for all his pigeons to admire and worship at.

History of t's Wall - "Mexico is going to pay for it" => $70 billion estimate (with $0 estimate from Mexico for their contribution) => $26 billion budget request (maybe Mexico was to be persuaded to kick in the rest?) => $1.6 billion enacted by Congress to pay for rebuilding existing border walls, among other things => SCOTUS approval to use up to $2.5 billion Congress appropriated for DOD (does that mean that Mexicans serving in US forces are being subtly forced to contribute?) => "I win" - t45.
 
If you spend all day reading trash like this then I can understand why you are always pissed off.

BTW - adding your own comment should probably be done in some way to make it obvious that it's not part of what you quoted.
If you spend all day reading trash like this then I can understand why you are always pissed off.

BTW - adding your own comment should probably be done in some way to make it obvious that it's not part of what you quoted.
I don't spend all day reading trash like this unless I'm reading your shit or Daffy's crap.
I added nothing to the article it was cut and pasted from the site.
Perhaps you should go to the site before you mouth off Magoo.
 
That is a load of garbage. Any article talking about the border and immigration that only cites "the Democrats" as the problem and doesn't detail the actions the current admin has undertaken designed to get the result they are claiming as a "crisis" . . . eliminating aid, pulling/ limiting immigration judges, limiting aid to asylum seeking refugees in detention, changing/and or ignoring laws in concerns to length of time individuals can be held, etc. etc. All in an effort to get more people to concede to the building of a monument to t for all his pigeons to admire and worship at.
Unless you have something specific regarding the statistics that were used in the editorial, you have nothing.
Run along Daffy, Magoo needs his ass sniffed.
 
I don't spend all day reading trash like this unless I'm reading you shit or Daffy's crap.
I added nothing to the article it was cut and pasted from the site.
Perhaps you should go to the site before you mouth off Magoo.

I already had done that before I posted my comment. You are correct - you added nothing. My apology.
 
Something Trump-Bashed Baltimore Area Would Like To Ditch: 'Kushnerville' Homes

President Donald Trump calls Baltimore 'disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess'

After a series of vicious attacks on their home by their own president, proud Baltimoreans are standing by their city. But there is something local they would likely be happy to ditch: decrepit “Kushnerville” housing provided by Donald Trump’s own son-in-law, who has been blasted by tenants in the press as a “slumlord.”

Trump has lashed Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) in yet another attack on an African-American because of the congressman’s criticism of inhumane treatment of immigrants at the southern border, and slammed Cummings’ Baltimore district as a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.”

Ironically, Jared Kushner’s many Baltimore area housing projects — which he continues to own even as he works as a senior White House adviser — racked up hundreds of building-code violations creating the kind of conditions that Trump hints at.

“We expect all landlords to comply with the code requirements that protect the health and safety of their tenants — even if the landlord’s father-in-law is President of the United States,” said a statement at the time by Baltimore County officials.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/jare...d-trump-baltimore-kushnerville-035932046.html
 
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats is leaving the White House, capping a tumultuous tenure in which President Donald Trump repeatedly questioned U.S. intelligence assessments around the globe.

At a time when Trump was repeatedly describing the situation on the U.S.-Mexico border as a national security crisis, Coats declined to include immigration as a major threat facing the country when he spoke to lawmakers in January.

https://news.yahoo.com/dan-coats-trumps-top-intel-193628320.html?.tsrc=notification-brknews
 
Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault.

Despite the administration’s attempts to shift blame for the chaos, make no mistake: It is Donald Trump himself who is responsible. Through misguided policies, political stunts and a failure of leadership, the president has created the conditions that allowed the asylum problem at the border to explode into a crisis. The solution to our current border troubles lies in reforming the U.S. asylum system and immigration courts and helping Central America address its challenges—not in a “big beautiful” wall or shutting down the border. Yet effective action on these issues has been missing. And the president has now so poisoned the political well with his approach that there is little hope of meaningful congressional action until after the next election. Unless the administration changes course, the immigration crisis will only continue to worsen.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/05/border-crisis-donald-trump-226573
 
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