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watfly said:
I don't really disagree with anything you say, I would just point that "threat to democracy" and "constitutional crisis" are hyperbole as well. So far, none of the court challenges against Trump's power has been successful with the exception of the "MS13" deportations, which isn't a separation of powers issue. I don't see anything yet that rises to an gross abuse of power but its certainly very gratuitous. Trump is hurting his own cause with the manner and careless nature in which he's implementing his policies.

Right now I don't see the issue as necessarily a separation of powers issue, but a complete lack of opposing power from the Democrats. The Dem party is in complete and utter shambles. Tesla Takedown and a 25 hour ramble by Corey Booker are just more embarrassment for the party and don't get me started with AOC and Crockett. The only thing they have is lawfare because they have zero legislative power in Washington.

I'm not saying that Repub's abide by individual accountability (see Signalgate), but from a platform status the Repubs favor individual accountability and identity, whereas the Dems favor Government reliance and group identity.
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For sure, there's hyperbole on both sides. A case to watch is the one challenging the EO on voting, that stretches executive power considerably imv, but we'll see.

Sure, the Dems are in a shambles, very similar to the GOP were in 2009. They need something to coalesce around and I expect the GOP will give it to them. There's plenty of time before the mids, just as there was in 2009 - when the GOP gave the Dems a "shellacking" (in 2010).

Signalgate is but one and keep in mind that the Pentagon literally issued a warning about its use the week before. How many other signal groups are out there and what's in them, not to mention the auto delete function and the requirement to keep Federal records? What about Waltz's staff using gmail generally and sending classified materials specifically? I mean FFS, why would anyone in this day and age think that its OK to use personal forms of communication, signal or gmail or whatever, for government business given the crap that's circulated over the last few years. That's either gross incompetence or supreme arrogance, but neither is good and I don't doubt that nefarious actors actively hack these platforms and actively target these same officials, so how much has now been hacked?

Its much broader than that though, how about the GOP mandating that the 10 commandments be displayed in classrooms - but the 10 commandments only. Or the book banning due to sex and violence content, but that exempt the bible (only) despite it having more gratuitous sex and violence than the overwhelming majority of the banned books - absolute hypocrisy as a Judge commented recently.
 
whatithink said:
For sure, there's hyperbole on both sides. A case to watch is the one challenging the EO on voting, that stretches executive power considerably imv, but we'll see.

Sure, the Dems are in a shambles, very similar to the GOP were in 2009. They need something to coalesce around and I expect the GOP will give it to them. There's plenty of time before the mids, just as there was in 2009 - when the GOP gave the Dems a "shellacking" (in 2010).

Signalgate is but one and keep in mind that the Pentagon literally issued a warning about its use the week before. How many other signal groups are out there and what's in them, not to mention the auto delete function and the requirement to keep Federal records? What about Waltz's staff using gmail generally and sending classified materials specifically? I mean FFS, why would anyone in this day and age think that its OK to use personal forms of communication, signal or gmail or whatever, for government business given the crap that's circulated over the last few years. That's either gross incompetence or supreme arrogance, but neither is good and I don't doubt that nefarious actors actively hack these platforms and actively target these same officials, so how much has now been hacked?

Its much broader than that though, how about the GOP mandating that the 10 commandments be displayed in classrooms - but the 10 commandments only. Or the book banning due to sex and violence content, but that exempt the bible (only) despite it having more gratuitous sex and violence than the overwhelming majority of the banned books - absolute hypocrisy as a Judge commented recently.
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whatithink said:
For sure, there's hyperbole on both sides. A case to watch is the one challenging the EO on voting, that stretches executive power considerably imv, but we'll see.

Sure, the Dems are in a shambles, very similar to the GOP were in 2009. They need something to coalesce around and I expect the GOP will give it to them. There's plenty of time before the mids, just as there was in 2009 - when the GOP gave the Dems a "shellacking" (in 2010).

Signalgate is but one and keep in mind that the Pentagon literally issued a warning about its use the week before. How many other signal groups are out there and what's in them, not to mention the auto delete function and the requirement to keep Federal records? What about Waltz's staff using gmail generally and sending classified materials specifically? I mean FFS, why would anyone in this day and age think that its OK to use personal forms of communication, signal or gmail or whatever, for government business given the crap that's circulated over the last few years. That's either gross incompetence or supreme arrogance, but neither is good and I don't doubt that nefarious actors actively hack these platforms and actively target these same officials, so how much has now been hacked?

Its much broader than that though, how about the GOP mandating that the 10 commandments be displayed in classrooms - but the 10 commandments only. Or the book banning due to sex and violence content, but that exempt the bible (only) despite it having more gratuitous sex and violence than the overwhelming majority of the banned books - absolute hypocrisy as a Judge commented recently.
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It'll be interesting to see what the Dems do now because there's no clear front runner, especially now that Gavin has decided that promising tampons in the boys locker room won't get you elected, and everyone in the party sees a wide open birth for the driver's seat. Cory Booker was willing to wear a diaper for 25 hours. AOC is out eating sugar cubes and apples through a picket fence in hopes of getting Bernie Magoo supporters to ride her without a saddle. Kamala is... well... probably unburdened by something 80-proof and Walz seems to be doubling down on the insanity game. That won't end well. Fauxahontas probably won't have the sense to not run because she may need a pardon more than anybody in that group. Mayor Bootygig suddenly found his way out of the basement and Whitmer may end up being the dark horse.
 
watfly said:
I don't really disagree with anything you say, I would just point that "threat to democracy" and "constitutional crisis" are hyperbole as well. So far, none of the court challenges against Trump's power has been successful with the exception of the "MS13" deportations, which isn't a separation of powers issue. I don't see anything yet that rises to an gross abuse of power but its certainly very gratuitous. Trump is hurting his own cause with the manner and careless nature in which he's implementing his policies.

Right now I don't see the issue as necessarily a separation of powers issue, but a complete lack of opposing power from the Democrats. The Dem party is in complete and utter shambles. Tesla Takedown and a 25 hour ramble by Corey Booker are just more embarrassment for the party and don't get me started with AOC and Crockett. The only thing they have is lawfare because they have zero legislative power in Washington.

I'm not saying that Repub's abide by individual accountability (see Signalgate), but from a platform status the Repubs favor individual accountability and identity, whereas the Dems favor Government reliance and group identity.
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Says the guy unaware he’s in a cult.
 
watfly said:
I don't really disagree with anything you say, I would just point that "threat to democracy" and "constitutional crisis" are hyperbole as well. So far, none of the court challenges against Trump's power has been successful with the exception of the "MS13" deportations, which isn't a separation of powers issue. I don't see anything yet that rises to an gross abuse of power but its certainly very gratuitous. Trump is hurting his own cause with the manner and careless nature in which he's implementing his policies.

Right now I don't see the issue as necessarily a separation of powers issue, but a complete lack of opposing power from the Democrats. The Dem party is in complete and utter shambles. Tesla Takedown and a 25 hour ramble by Corey Booker are just more embarrassment for the party and don't get me started with AOC and Crockett. The only thing they have is lawfare because they have zero legislative power in Washington.

I'm not saying that Repub's abide by individual accountability (see Signalgate), but from a platform status the Repubs favor individual accountability and identity, whereas the Dems favor Government reliance and group identity.
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How do you see the trump administration’s attacks on judges and law firms?
 
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