T 2.0

watfly said:
I've already stated that I'm against the blanket firings. No question that there is a performative element to the request, but when you're dealing with hundred of thousands of employees in our bloated government its a very efficient way to sort through fat. Particularly to identify ghost employees and employees that have completely checked out. It also sends the message that the free lunch is over.

Unfortunately, this is an example of the extremes that our country is facing. On one side you have mass firings and funding freezes. On the other side you have 14 Democrat AG's trying to block the Chief Executive of our country from investigating government agencies by filing completely frivolous lawsuits. Between the two, I will take hyper accountability over protecting widespread political grift.
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Yeah, I'm fine with eliminating waste, but there's so much noise over something so small in relative terms. The goal here apparently is to cut 10% of fed employees, so save $35B annually. That's no small amount, but its also .001% of the federal budget.

Meanwhile the Senate is looking to spend another $350B in new spending, and the House is looking to add $50B annually for the next 10 years, while adding $4T to the debt in the next 2.

There's a lot of theatre going on which is being lapped up, but unless someone comes up with a budget at or below $5.5T, this is all clear BS. The budget after that should be $5T and so on down.

Its both parties btw, that's crystal clear, even currently.
 
whatithink said:
Yeah, I'm fine with eliminating waste, but there's so much noise over something so small in relative terms. The goal here apparently is to cut 10% of fed employees, so save $35B annually. That's no small amount, but its also .001% of the federal budget.

Meanwhile the Senate is looking to spend another $350B in new spending, and the House is looking to add $50B annually for the next 10 years, while adding $4T to the debt in the next 2.

There's a lot of theatre going on which is being lapped up, but unless someone comes up with a budget at or below $5.5T, this is all clear BS. The budget after that should be $5T and so on down.

Its both parties btw, that's crystal clear, even currently.
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crush said:
Let this sink in: The reason that Elon sent out that email to all the Government employees requiring a response was to find out 2 things. This is important and folks with TDS and MDS will not get it.

1) Who doesn’t read their work emails as in your fired next and….

2) Are their *ghost employees getting paid. More crimes to find?

*AI is the deep states undoing🤣🤣🤣. These people are dumb & dumber

Thought for the day with crush: What they thought was buried is a search request away now:eek::p:eek: Stupid morons!!

DOGE Team is going to find that the depths of fuckery the people running our government have been committing are fucking staggering.

President Trump, The Commander in Chief is going to give a speech that all members of Congress are required to attend, and all networks are required to broadcast on 3/4/2025. Time for a sharp fucking rebuke

If the DemonRats & RINO's thought 21% approval rating were bad well, they have seen anything, yet that T 2.0 is going to show the world. And the world will be shocked.

What a time to be alive. I love you all. There are no untruths or possibly the truths. It's the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH, so help me GOD!! The TRUTH shall set us all free too. Who wants to be a FREE BIRD? Some little birds stay in their stinky and dirty cages because they are controlled and brainwashed. Afraid to fly on their own.

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Yep, it’s a heartbeat check as well. Kinda crazy when you think about it. It will be interesting.
 
whatithink said:
Yeah, I'm fine with eliminating waste, but there's so much noise over something so small in relative terms. The goal here apparently is to cut 10% of fed employees, so save $35B annually. That's no small amount, but its also .001% of the federal budget.

Meanwhile the Senate is looking to spend another $350B in new spending, and the House is looking to add $50B annually for the next 10 years, while adding $4T to the debt in the next 2.

There's a lot of theatre going on which is being lapped up, but unless someone comes up with a budget at or below $5.5T, this is all clear BS. The budget after that should be $5T and so on down.

Its both parties btw, that's crystal clear, even currently.
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Don't disagree, but where is all the abuse and waste going to conservative causes? (Is Musk just hiding those? I'm pretty sure Dems would scream from the highest mountain if they found any money going to spread Christianity or block abortions across the world. Maybe overspending on defense, but DOGE is supposed to investigate that as well. If your following the narrative you'd argue that tax cuts for the rich are the Right's fraud and waste, but Trump's tax cuts benefitted everyone.

As far as the extent of the savings, that would be a fair criticism if we weren't only a month into the administration.

I'm 100% against a DOGE dividend. I think that's just pandering to voters and every dollar saved should go to paying down the debt.
 
watfly said:
Don't disagree, but where is all the abuse and waste going to conservative causes? (Is Musk just hiding those? I'm pretty sure Dems would scream from the highest mountain if they found any money going to spread Christianity or block abortions across the world. Maybe overspending on defense, but DOGE is supposed to investigate that as well. If your following the narrative you'd argue that tax cuts for the rich are the Right's fraud and waste, but Trump's tax cuts benefitted everyone.

As far as the extent of the savings, that would be a fair criticism if we weren't only a month into the administration.

I'm 100% against a DOGE dividend. I think that's just pandering to voters and every dollar saved should go to paying down the debt.
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Excellent points. Lets see what Grace T has for a comeback. The kickback game is over.
 
watfly said:
Don't disagree, but where is all the abuse and waste going to conservative causes? (Is Musk just hiding those? I'm pretty sure Dems would scream from the highest mountain if they found any money going to spread Christianity or block abortions across the world. Maybe overspending on defense, but DOGE is supposed to investigate that as well. If your following the narrative you'd argue that tax cuts for the rich are the Right's fraud and waste, but Trump's tax cuts benefitted everyone.

As far as the extent of the savings, that would be a fair criticism if we weren't only a month into the administration.

I'm 100% against a DOGE dividend. I think that's just pandering to voters and every dollar saved should go to paying down the debt.
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Agree on the dividend, not least as its theoretical rather than actual, but it makes no sense to send it to people when you've "saved" it, as you'll have to borrow the money to send, and you couldn't possibly make that shit up!

I recall instances of Dems screaming about foreign funding in abstinence programs instead of condoms, what the $ were, I've no idea. We could cut the corporate socialism, that's about $100B annually to companies that are making billions in profits too. That's not even starting on the fact that over 50% of the DoD spend goes to companies/contractors etc, so $400B+ - I can't wait to see how that shit pans out.
 
whatithink said:
Possibly true, but you don't know that, and neither do I. I'd certainly bet on it, but I'd also like the bloat to be gotten rid of not the easiest (probation) and I'd like there to be a plan to ensure no damage is done versus stupid emails.

The reality is that the number of govt. employees hasn't actually increased in like 40 years, while the population is serves has increased by nearly 100M people. So certainly there is some efficiencies being driven there.
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Productivity per employee has increased significantly over the last 40 years. There aren't as many typists in the steno pool retyping the boss's memos as there used to be.

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As more and more dark news is brought out into the light, your soul will start asking questions to your shadow and ego. Listen to this song when you go to sleep and in the morning. Put it on loop and let it put you to sleep. The children of the earth have been crying out for help. Were on a rescue mission to help save ALL OF GOD'S PRECIOUS CHILDREN!!!

 
From CT Sen. Chris Murphy --

Last night in the Senate, something really important happened. Republicans forced us to debate their billionaire bailout budget framework. We started voting at 6 PM because they knew doing it in the dark of night would minimize media coverage. And they do not want the American people to see how blatant their handover of our government to the billionaire class is.
So I want to explain what happened last night and what we did to fight back.
The apex of Republicans’ plan to turn over our government to their wealthy cronies is a giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations. And they plan to pay for it with cuts to programs that working people rely on. Popular and necessary programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and SNAP, are all being targeted.
In order to pass the tax cut, Republicans have to go through a series of procedural steps. Last night, they took the first step which requires them to pass an outline of their plan, but with it, any senator can offer as many amendments as we want. So my Democratic colleagues and I did just that.
Now, we knew that Republicans would largely unanimously oppose them, but we had two objectives here. One, Republicans were forced to put their opinion on record — many for the first time — on the most corrupt parts of Trump and Musk’s agenda. Two, as I’ve been saying, I am going to make every process and procedure as slow and painful as possible for as long as my colleagues choose to ignore the constitutional crisis happening before our eyes.
So what did we propose? We proposed no tax cuts for anyone who makes a billion dollars a year. We made them vote on whether or not Elon Musk and DOGE should have limitless access to Americans’ personal data. We made them vote on whether to protect IVF and require insurers to cover it.
Every single amendment Democrats proposed was shot down. On almost every single amendment, Republicans universally opposed it. Every Republican voted against our proposal to prevent more tax cuts for billionaires.
The corruption and theft is happening in the open here. The whole game for Republicans is taking your money and giving it to the wealthiest corporations and billionaires — even if it means kicking your parents out of a nursing home or turning off Medicaid for the poorest children.
They know what they are doing is deeply unpopular. They are offering a tax cut to the most wealthy that is 850 times larger than what they are offering working people. Oh and by the way, any tax cuts for working people are going to be washed out by higher costs for basic necessities, like health care and food. It’s a fundamental injustice.
Thanks to your pressure and support, many of my Democratic colleagues have joined my effort to do everything we can to make sure they cannot destroy democracy and steal your money in the dark of the night. We are being loud about what is happening. I’m going to continue to grind the gears of Congress down as much as possible to make it that much harder and slower to get away with this corruption. That’s why the votes lasted until nearly 5 AM.
This is a five-alarm fire. I don’t think we have two years to plan and fight back. I think we have months. It’s still in our power to stop the destruction of our democracy with mass mobilization and effective opposition from elected officials.
So we can’t miss any opportunity to take advantage of opportunities to put Republicans on the record and shine a light on what is happening.
And you have a role to play in this as well. I need you to amplify what’s happening, support the leaders who are fighting for you to make sure they can continue speaking truth to power against Musk and Trump’s billionaire cronies, and show up at rallies and town halls. Use every tool at your disposal to send a message loud and clear about how you expect my colleagues to lead and fight in this moment.

Every best wish,
Chris Murphy
 
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