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Badminton is more dangerous than tennis Bahahahaha okay i will trust science when they use common sense
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Badminton is an indoor sport.
I see Sparky made it back to the forum. Hey bro, where does Ice Hockey fit in the colors? Are you still skating and playing and knocking fools in the board? Peace brah!!!
Jose has returned
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ok stand corrected. Ive never seen a real game. but with just a 4 people in a gym still seems a little absurd
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you know me so well
Not a whole lot about this document makes sense so who knows why they did what they did. What we do know about the tournament language sentence is it was added to the draft which had been circulating internally for a while, when tournaments in Arizona became an issue, so it was probably redlined in after the fact.
Better than clicking refresh on the covid sites, wishing the news would suddenly be different.
Cheerleading was always in the yellow tier if indoors. I guess CIF is saying its impractical to move either basketball or cheerleading outdoors....true? I thought the entire big Florida cheer competition took place outdoors...at least that's what Netflix tells me?
Kante
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I guess where I'm going is that prohibiting travel seems like one of those reaches that may not be constutional (writing this
Here's the 16 page NFHSA Medical Advisory Committee guidance published back in the fall - https://nfhs.org/media/3812287/2020...nd-activities-nfhs-smac-may-15_2020-final.pdf
Below are their definitions and, importantly, criteria for grouping the sports into different tiers (which is the minimum the gov owes the players and the families)
per NFHSA, soccer is moderate risk i.e. should be red tier.
Almost every state - including WA and OR - California is following their guidance, but not California.
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Glitterhater
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Solidarity.
Why are you so easily offended Karen?
Well how bad can everything be if people are still screwing.
They have articles on that site.... just thought the articles were promotion pieces to drive traffic from such hard hitting sources as Yahoo.
Wow... missing the “?” After “they have articles on that site? Really gives the wrong impression.
Let me try again on the framing, I agree it was a bit broad. This is an issue of CA prohibiting its citizens from going somewhere else to play a sport (soccer as it concerns us in this forum) where people will gather but also where it is legal in an effort to reduce the spread of COVID 19 during a global pandemic.
It's power reach that is the issue, not the fact that it impacts kiddie soccer, and it is that power reach that interferes with issues of interstate commerce, contracts, and substantive due process. Can you think of any regulation where one State prohibits its residents from participating in lawful activity while they’re in another State?
I think you’d agree with me that the State has a legitimate and compelling public interest in protecting the health and safety of its citizens, whether it is a global pandemic, local epidemic, or even noon on a Tuesday, right? For that reason I disagree that it matters for purposes of precedent setting whether this particular pandemic is a distinguishing context for such a reach. The distinguishing thing here is the reach itself in trying to combat a virus when compared to other pandemics.
Someone on this thread mentioned STD’s being down. So here’s an example. Sexually transmitted infections (STIs) are an enormous health crisis and is also categorized as a global pandemic, one we’ve been in for decades. I’m not 50 and I remember the hysteria of the AIDS epidemic in the 80s. Americans report approximately 20 million new STIs to the CDC every year and it is rising. Certain STIs are linked to cancer, not curable, and new cases of STIs are disproportionately high in people aged 15-24 who are the most sexually active (i.e. people spreading the disease) and do not treat because they are more often uninsured and the symptoms often don’t present until more serious health conditions arise. Sound familiar? Yet it is undisputed that all STIs are preventable and for this reason prostitution is illegal in CA. BUT, there is no law or regulation prohibiting Californians from hiring prostitutes while in certain counties in Nevada or abroad where it is legal. Why not? Similarly Los Angeles County a few years ago, using the justification that porn actors were spreading STIs into the community required the actors to wear condoms during filming in the County. So the locations of filming moved outside the County. If the justification is real, why the did the County not require all porn actors living in the County to always use protection when filming regardless of location?
Maybe it is because the positivity rate and death rate associated with STIs is within a range that is acceptable to society? Maybe it is because they are transmitted through sexual acts instead of through the air, but still to unsuspecting citizens. Those are ridiculous distinctions if the concern is about public health and eliminating a pandemic. You say no one cares about kiddie soccer, well who the hell cares enough about dudes hiring prostitutes to keep such a ban off the books?
Yes 300,000 Americans have died and it’s tragic and awful and fairly close to home for me. A person in my office lost her father last month to COVID. Is that what this is about, hitting a large number of deaths is justification for banning legal activity in another State? If so, what was the triggering number?
If we want prevent COVID from coming into CA, we need to lock it down, we need real quarantines, not just kiddie soccer ones? How many truck drivers do you think cross in and out of CA every single day? And people want to talk about a 1,000 families (if that) from CA traveling for youth sports like it is somehow the difference maker to ending this pandemic? CA truck stops along I10 have see more out of state truckers in a month than Reach 11 will see in a year and I'm sure you've seen all the precautions they're taking to prevent the spread of COVID. That is just one of many truck routes into the State.
I hear you when you say it has to be realistic and attainable. Why is it not? There is a whole industry out there because CA already has greater restrictions on the number of axles, etc. I see huge opportunity here for the industry to expand increasing employment opportunity, not only in CA but in bordering States, consisting of CA truckers at the borders dropping off loads leaving CA and taking over loads entering CA where the delivery of those goods that are perishable, cannot wait, or even where the shipper or end consumer doesn't want to wait for a quarantine period. Is there an economic impact, yes, but what is compared to dragging this nonsense we're going through along endlessly? As it is right now, to my knowledge, truckers are only asked if they have any symptoms and if they say they're not, they are allowed to proceed.
SoccerFan4Life
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I think this covid debate is getting very old now. Time to focus on the next most hated topic.....surf cup. Lol. JK.
So... no spring season til? April?
So... no spring season til? April?
46n2
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Oh Im not offended honey, Im just tired of people. Once the sun sets again and teams can play regularly , alot of you will get off your little imaginary plane ride and realize that during this break all of the top team have been staying quiet and working and will again sweep each team like they have pre covid....(even during)
I found your post hilarious thats all,
Just to be clear you opt'ed out because of no competition or schedules ????. How do you know who's playing.
Who's the real Karen here.
Too say a bold statement like that you must have a amazing team thats got more hardware then anyone else in the past 3 year?
worst yet , your coach probably fed you that line .
How silly is your assertation about fields. I've been on most fields that soccer is played on in the greater phoenix area. Why would Surf want to play their "best of the best" tournament on anything other than top notch fields? But please let me know how great those fields are this time of year that aren't Scottsdale or Reach. You'll get SSC, but that's it. Dead grass and dust this time of the year. But's that fine for a "not the best of the best" tournament.
So quick to talk down AZ soccer. Doesn't really bother parents in AZ, you guys clearly have the advantage with your population density, doesn't hurt my feelings. With that said, AZ letter league teams do just fine against the mighty socal clubs, especially on the girls side. You provide great training grounds for our players to be seen and to play at the next level. I personally thank you for making both of my players better. We've consistently won and been at the top of the table the last 3 yrs whilst playing against the top clubs in CA.
You are just mad that many if not most of the top teams in CA are not coming and that all of the AZ top girls teams aren't playing, thus watering down the "best of the best". I don't know where you stand in terms of the club you play on and I don't really care, playing is playing.
Just call it what is is, a severely watered down soccer event. Just get over the denial. It's your choice to come and fortunately you are free to make this choice at least for today anyway. We will see what other travel directives are thrown your way and we will see what happens on the AZ public health front. In all seriousness, we are worse off than where we were in JULY, and that's not a good thing, because JUN/JULY was bad.
I'm not a rona hysteric by any means and an firmly on the side of making adult choices on behalf of your family. I'm not interested in governments telling me what to do. I will tell you this, Phoenix hospitals are full to the brim with COVID patients - it's not click bait or a catchy headline. Go look up the stats yourself, I'm not here to prove anything to you. As a parent, my biggest fear right now is to have to take my kids or spouse for emergent treatment and not having the facilities/capacity/care available to rapidly assess and treat. My kids are still going to practice, they are still going to school, and one is a driver. Things happen and people have to go to the ER. I am choosing to live as normal a life as I can and resist the urge to protect my kids at all costs. Hospital capacity and lack of care is a real thing right now, something to be considered.
So have at it and come to AZ with open eyes. I wish you the safest of travels and that your player enjoys him/herself.