Surf Cup

way up said:
This is one of the best examples of how power soccer is beaten with the Spanish style of building from the back and passing. “Death by passing” as one of the announcers says.
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I like your attention to details bimmer. A coach has to use his resources to the best of his abilities with the styles he knows imo. With 10 year old girls just imagine that complexity, but I think you already do and work with them. Am I wrong?
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Thank you, but I am not a coach, just a parent who watches for details that I feel are relative to the players abilities and skill level. I think at the age of 10 the game must remain as simple as possible. Two things that I feel are super important for this age, are receiving the ball with the backfoot and having the girls play with their head up.

There are of course other building blocks that continue from there (first touch, body profile, etc.) but the first 2 concepts are the corner stones that I look for them and judge players by it. I laugh and shake my head as to how impressed I was when I saw U6-8 players who had a "big kick." I was very ignorant to this game.
 
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I like your attention to details bimmer. A coach has to use his resources to the best of his abilities with the styles he knows imo. With 10 year old girls just imagine that complexity, but I think you already do and work with them. Am I wrong?
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Thank you, but I am not a coach, just a parent who watches for details that I feel are relative to the players abilities and skill level. I think at the age of 10 the game must remain as simple as possible. Two things that I feel are super important for this age, are receiving the ball with the backfoot and having the girls play with their head up.

There are of course other building blocks that continue from there (first touch, body profile, etc.) but the first 2 concepts are the corner stones that I look for them and judge players by it. I laugh and shake my head as to how impressed I was when I saw U6-8 players who had a "big kick." I was very ignorant to this game.
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I agree. They will pick up the other development some of these people keep preaching to the choir about. No one is saying to just kick it, but it takes a player to find and the one passing to connect. As the anticipation, finding, and connection come together, they learn to move, get open, and connect. When they all learn this and can constantly create an open player and dribble out of pressure, it's a beautiful game. Most of these girls are learning all the basic instincts to do this and will develop this. They still miskick, put too much weight on passes, shoot over the goal box 10 feet away, make heavy first touches, etc. Some of the expectations in here make me laugh! Not saying they won't get there soon, but they are 10.
 
There is so much irony in here. The most joysticking, yelling coaching I've ever seen was at Futsal. 100% possession style futsal. These coaches joysticked more than any coach I've ever seen and they yelled a lot. I'm not opposed to tough coaching, but my daughter absolutely hated it. She would quit soccer completely if I made her stay there. She was not alone by any stretch! It's a great skill, but I think a lot of the opinions here stem from this crowd.

Soccer is different than futsal and while it can give advantages with touch and dribbling out of pressure, there are enormously more factors involved. This discussion made me think back, because athleticism was the excuse for some of their team's losses and that was on a gym floor not a field. My point is the hypocrisy of winning not mattering supposedly. Ohhhhhh, it mattered big time at these events. This crowd may not look at field soccer tournaments the same way they do at futsal tournaments.

The irony is how many girls in that final played on a futsal team that just had a big international tournament! This supposedly "ugly" kickball game was brought to you by many girls that were in that tournament. My point is the one that others have made and we keep making. Some teams can force you into "kickball" or a loss. Neither team wanted to lose that day even though many of the girls play futsal? Of course, some will blame club coaches, winning, etc., but understand that these same futsal teams are 100% devoted to winning at scrimmages and at tournaments just like field soccer. People really make me laugh!
 
way up said:
There is so much irony in here. The most joysticking, yelling coaching I've ever seen was at Futsal. 100% possession style futsal. These coaches joysticked more than any coach I've ever seen and they yelled a lot. I'm not opposed to tough coaching, but my daughter absolutely hated it. She would quit soccer completely if I made her stay there. She was not alone by any stretch! It's a great skill, but I think a lot of the opinions here stem from this crowd.

Soccer is different than futsal and while it can give advantages with touch and dribbling out of pressure, there are enormously more factors involved. This discussion made me think back, because athleticism was the excuse for some of their team's losses and that was on a gym floor not a field. My point is the hypocrisy of winning not mattering supposedly. Ohhhhhh, it mattered big time at these events. This crowd may not look at field soccer tournaments the same way they do at futsal tournaments.

The irony is how many girls in that final played on a futsal team that just had a big international tournament! This supposedly "ugly" kickball game was brought to you by many girls that were in that tournament. My point is the one that others have made and we keep making. Some teams can force you into "kickball" or a loss. Neither team wanted to lose that day even though many of the girls play futsal? Of course, some will blame club coaches, winning, etc., but understand that these same futsal teams are 100% devoted to winning at scrimmages and at tournaments just like field soccer. People really make me laugh!
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So "more athletic" is the reason for a loss in futsal and "development" is the reason for a loss in field soccer. I think you can live in both worlds and futsal is awesome for touch and passing, but don't forget that field soccer is different in so many ways except that most people and coaches always aim to win regardless what they say.
 
I get so annoyed watching surf play the holier than thou development card when i watch them roll out the ball the left side and try to play it up the left sideline for the 13th time in a row when that move was cut off after the 3rd time. Thats blind ignorance one dimensional soccer not pretty soccer and I've got to believe incredibly frustrating for the girls who ive watched struggle to get the ball over midfield against a quality opponent on the big field. Some nice passes connected in the face of the inevitable high press but no creativity, no adaptive play ...
 
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