Surf cup throws in the towel...well kind of!

dad4 said:
CTA. Absolutely no interest in representing anyone but the older folks near retirement. So the contract paid peanuts to young teachers, in return for better health care and pensions for those soon to retire.
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Aren't pensions always for those who retire?
 
crush said:
The big sell is they talked with many of the coaches and they say the show must go on. If the dark period is lifted, the timing is perfect for many and what's not to like about that. If my dd said yes, my wife would drive this time or she could go with friends. So many 2021, 2022 and 2023 not committed and because of the pandemic or plandemic ((allegedly)) their is a huge back log and many kids not signed so this is a good thing for many and no reason to rain on someone else's desire to play soccer. I drove to AZ for the Cactus Cup and some said that was a waist of time. It was a shot in the arm and that's all my dd needed to feel normal again. New Years Eve drive to AZ is just not something I could personally handle emotionally and I know my limits. Plus, do you know how many tournaments and showcases are scheduled or hoping to be played after Nov 3rd?
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Info only, 2023 can't commit until next June 16.
 
chiefs said:
Please don’t tell us what is best for kids as an educator; most educators have shown their true colors in times of need (yellow); individual freedoms are being destroyed; kids are killing themselves and are taking drugs at an all time high. In the middle of a unnecessary shutdown that has created immense stress on families, ban soccer? Just sick.
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watfly said:
I want kids back in school and I was a huge proponent for any number of days of in-person. However, at some schools, like my sons middle school, the hybrid is a complete joke and he is back to 100% online learning. Hybrid was half ass online and half ass in-person which makes a full ass for the education.
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Posted this in August from a post made by Watfly regarding UTLA. Highlighted the segment that pertains here.
"As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc... "
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Posted this in August from a post made by Watfly regarding UTLA. Highlighted the segment that pertains here.
"As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc... "
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One of my best friends is super conservative and hates what is going on. However, he has duck tape over his mouth because he only has 5 years left before he retires. Those lunch rooms can be gnarly if you share what you really believe. Shhhhhhhhhhh and keep in line and then retire with 90% for the rest of your life is all he is about. Keep the peace by shutting up and have zero opinion. Shhhhhhh or else!!!!!
 
oh canada said:
If it's only a binary choice for your kids (sports or screens), that's your fault and exactly my point. We teachers (this one is teaching in-person btw) try our best to motivate kids at school to spark interest in many different areas. But if the potential future scientist is only getting "laser-focus" and positive reinforcement for their sport achievements at home (not to mention all those holiday weekends on the pitch), well then I guess we'll have another college grad looking to coach youth soccer.
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This guy is making sense.
 
chiefs said:
Please don’t tell us what is best for kids as an educator; most educators have shown their true colors in times of need (yellow); individual freedoms are being destroyed; kids are killing themselves and are taking drugs at an all time high. In the middle of a unnecessary shutdown that has created immense stress on families, ban soccer? Just sick.
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Sadly, kids killing themselves is not new. Are you just finding this out? Drugs are rampant everywhere and always have been. Just ask a college student or a high school student. Shitty attitudes by adults can influence a child's stress level. Certainly a lot to think about.
 
oh canada said:
If it's only a binary choice for your kids (sports or screens), that's your fault and exactly my point. We teachers (this one is teaching in-person btw) try our best to motivate kids at school to spark interest in many different areas. But if the potential future scientist is only getting "laser-focus" and positive reinforcement for their sport achievements at home (not to mention all those holiday weekends on the pitch), well then I guess we'll have another college grad looking to coach youth soccer.
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Here's my advice teacher from Canada. Mine your own business and focus on teaching the subject at hand. My kid can play all sports or just one sport. If she wants to ball full time and go pro, keep your opinion to yourself unless she ask you for your thoughts. Pro girls soccer player and dont tell her she cant or she just might.
 
crush said:
One of my best friends is super conservative and hates what is going on. However, he has duck tape over his mouth because he only has 5 years left before he retires. Those lunch rooms can be gnarly if you share what you really believe. Shhhhhhhhhhh and keep in line and then retire with 90% for the rest of your life is all he is about. Keep the peace by shutting up and have zero opinion. Shhhhhhh or else!!!!!
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crush said:
One of my best friends is super conservative and hates what is going on. However, he has duck tape over his mouth because he only has 5 years left before he retires. Those lunch rooms can be gnarly if you share what you really believe. Shhhhhhhhhhh and keep in line and then retire with 90% for the rest of your life is all he is about. Keep the peace by shutting up and have zero opinion. Shhhhhhh or else!!!!!
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To be at 90% he needs to have taught for at least 40 years. Why is he waiting 5 years? Sounds like he needs to leave now for the sake of his students!
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crush said:
One of my best friends is super conservative and hates what is going on. However, he has duck tape over his mouth because he only has 5 years left before he retires. Those lunch rooms can be gnarly if you share what you really believe. Shhhhhhhhhhh and keep in line and then retire with 90% for the rest of your life is all he is about. Keep the peace by shutting up and have zero opinion. Shhhhhhh or else!!!!!
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No teacher retires with 90%. Its more like 65-70%. If they do, its because they supplement it over a long period of time through a separate retirement account to hit 90%. I meet annually with my financial advisor to review my investments in hopes of ensuring that 90% is doable for my retirement date.
 
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crush said:
Here's my advice teacher from Canada. Mine your own business and focus on teaching the subject at hand. My kid can play all sports or just one sport. If she wants to ball full time and go pro, keep your opinion to yourself unless she ask you for your thoughts. Pro girls soccer player and dont tell her she cant or she just might.
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If I have a choice between taking advice from a Canadian or a guy who burned all his kid’s soccer bridges when she was 12 because the plan was for her to go pro at 18, well, how did putting all your eggs in one basket work out?
 
Spfister said:
No one is forcing teachers to teach They are free to leave their job. They were hired to do a job which is to educate and teach children that is not being done via online learning and an effective manner. If they don’t like it, they can quit just like if I don’t like what is being asked of me for my job where I have to go into my place of business, I can quit. But you know what I’ve done… I’ve gotten myself in shape in the last six months, my immunity, I take vitamins and minerals and anything I can do in case I get this disease to fight it. That said, I believe that school should do whatever they can within reasonable need to make sure that their educators feel safe and are protected as much as possible. Just like restaurants do with their workers, grocery stores do with their workers, medical facilities do with their workers and essential other businesses do with their workers. Teachers are essential… They tell us that all the time when they are begging for more money right? They’re not disposable right? That said, I believe that school should do whatever they can within reasonable need to make sure that their educators feel safe and are protected as much as possible. Just like restaurants do with their workers, grocery stores do with their workers, medical facilities do with their workers and other essential other businesses do with their workers.
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It sounds as if you have never actually been in a classroom that is in session. I am not talking about Open Houses or parent nights or conferences. A full class is IMPOSSIBLE to social distance. Thus you have the hybrid model, half the school in session at one time half learning at home. We often say it is like having mice in a cage with very little room to turn around in. California schools are packed. Maybe the rich private schools have small class sizes and big rooms with windows that can be opened. You are comparing apples and oranges.
 
crush said:
Here's my advice teacher from Canada. Mine your own business and focus on teaching the subject at hand. My kid can play all sports or just one sport. If she wants to ball full time and go pro, keep your opinion to yourself unless she ask you for your thoughts. Pro girls soccer player and dont tell her she cant or she just might.
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Real question- do you worry that if she doesn't go pro, she won't have anything to fall back on? I understand that his post was very matter-of-fact, but all that aside, don't you think there is some truth to not being laser focused on one thing? I took his post to mean more than just sports, as in getting kids focused on education too. But, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time!
 
Copa9 said:
It sounds as if you have never actually been in a classroom that is in session. I am not talking about Open Houses or parent nights or conferences. A full class is IMPOSSIBLE to social distance. Thus you have the hybrid model, half the school in session at one time half learning at home. We often say it is like having mice in a cage with very little room to turn around in. California schools are packed. Maybe the rich private schools have small class sizes and big rooms with windows that can be opened. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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good god you people really need soccer back
 
He's in his 50s and started teaching when he was 23 I believe, Let me find out his exact age and what his true retirement package is. He might be lying to me and making it sound all incredible when it's really not. I saw all his FB pics with some nice paid vacations over the years so their probably fake as well. He works hard btw. He's been through sh*t with one school and a boss lady Principle. He has at risk students at middle school in a big city I wont name. Basically, it's insane and he feels like he works for the probation dept for a few of his kids. One kid left a bullet on his desk a few years ago. Crazy kids. As EOTL was saying, stupid parents letting kid do drugs and bring bullets to scare the sh*t out of him because he didn;t let the 7th grade who looked like an adult run his class into the ground. He gave me play by play for over a year. I was proud of him and that punk is now in prison for attempted murder and wont be out for while.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
No teacher retires with 90%. Its more like 65-70%. If they do, its because they supplement it over a long period of time through a separate retirement account to hit 90%. I meet annually with my financial advisor to review my investments in hopes of ensuring that 90% is doable for my retirement date.
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Thank you for that information. I now have two teachers who say other wise. I knew it sounded to good to be true. I'm calling him out. He;s super competitive with me and I to him He;s the guy who say;s I'm like a cat. I always find a way to land on my feet somehow or have nine lives. This guy has been BSing me big time on his actual deal. Anyone else a teacher that can help me get to the bottom of a true retirement deal for a teacher who has taught 35+ plus years? Master degree. Maybe he means 90% of his $103,000 a year job and not all the 401 b3 stuff and health? 90% of $100,000 is only $90,000.
 
crush said:
Thank you for that information. I now have two teachers who say other wise. I knew it sounded to good to be true. I'm calling him out. He;s super competitive with me and I to him He;s the guy who say;s I'm like a cat. I always find a way to land on my feet somehow or have nine lives. This guy has been BSing me big time on his actual deal. Anyone else a teacher that can help me get to the bottom of a true retirement deal for a teacher who has taught 35+ plus years? Master degree. Maybe he means 90% of his $103,000 a year job and not all the 401 b3 stuff and health? 90% of $100,000 is only $90,000.
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He may not be lying to you but rather not giving you all the facts. He may have just given you the bottom line number.
 
EOTL said:
If I have a choice between taking advice from a Canadian or a guy who burned all his kid’s soccer bridges when she was 12 because the plan was for her to go pro at 18, well, how did putting all your eggs in one basket work out?
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Let’s keep in mind that indoor soccer is in full effect in SoCal. You don’t need to spend your entire weekend traveling out of state for a soccer game. Kids just want to play and indoor can take care of that. I saw a tournament advertised in Yuma.....!? It looks like AZ is going to do to SoCal what we’ve been doing to them all these years advertising crappy tournaments. Someone is going to make a lot of money from crazy parents traveling to AZ every other weekend.
 
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