Surf Cup Is Happening! Schedule is up!

[EOTL]

At a glance, more teams have dropped out. On the girls side, there are no longer AZ ECNL/GA teams involved. There was a smattering of GA teams from the Royals before.

On a positive note, less teams means more opportunities to schedule games at SSC, which are the best fields right now.

Somebody’s glass is 1/10th full.

 

[gotothebushes]

At a glance, more teams have dropped out. On the girls side, there are no longer AZ ECNL/GA teams involved. There was a smattering of GA teams from the Royals before.

On a positive note, less teams means more opportunities to schedule games at SSC, which are the best fields right now.

Looks like the 05 Blues only have 2 scheduled games! That sucks!!

 

[happy9]

Did the AZ teams drop or were their spots taken by CA teams? I know priority was given to out of state as they were willing to travel and any empty spots could be taken by locals.

Good question. I can only answer for our club, we pulled teams about a week ago. I'm pretty sure I had seen Royals teams on the first iteration of the schedule but they are no longer there. I know many parents weren't excited about playing over new years but have no idea how much of a driver that was. Plenty of HS players so maybe that was a factor as well. Many girls were adamant about playing HS and playing in Surf made it harder to do so.

 

[happy9]

Somebody’s glass is 1/10th full.

- Nice job, you can speak in fractions. Your ability to detect sarcasm in my statement is underwhelming.

 

[Desert Hound]

Good question. I can only answer for our club, we pulled teams about a week ago. I'm pretty sure I had seen Royals teams on the first iteration of the schedule but they are no longer there. I know many parents weren't excited about playing over new years but have no idea how much of a driver that was. Plenty of HS players so maybe that was a factor as well. Many girls were adamant about playing HS and playing in Surf made it harder to do so.

HS is the reason AZ teams are not in there. With the AIA rules put in place it pretty much makes it impossible to play.

 

[happy9]

Looks like the 05 Blues only have 2 scheduled games! That sucks!!

There are only 11 teams in their bracket. What sucks even more is that they have to drive back and forth between Mesa and Maricopa for games, about 43 miles apart.

 

[ITFC Blues]

LIKE EVERY SD TEAM! Their parents scream fight fight fight all game then once their kid goes down they scream bloody murder..

Tell them to watch Olivier Giroud. He may be a "little slow" but he is 6'-4" tall and is solid. Just read that he is now the leading scorer on the year for Chelsea and everyone complains about him. I am still angry at Arsenal for letting him go.

 

[ITFC Blues]

Tell them to watch Olivier Giroud. He may be a "little slow" but he is 6'-4" tall and is solid. Just read that he is now the leading scorer on the year for Chelsea and everyone complains about him. I am still angry at Arsenal for letting him go.

Oops, meant to edit, but waited too long. Giroud is an example of how physical a forward can be. All he does is score ( except for France in the World Cup)

 

[gotothebushes]

There are only 11 teams in their bracket. What sucks even more is that they have to drive back and forth between Mesa and Maricopa for games, about 43 miles apart.

Ouch!!!

 

[NorCalDad]

Finally someone that might realize soccer is a contact sport when played correctly. A lot of parents complain when their kid is bumped off the ball by a defender, thinking your aren't allow to touch the forwards.

So true. One of our kids is super aggressive. He's a younger, but it's super funny watching parents we play against get all agitated when the ref isn't calling anything. I mean I see this a lot with parents that didn't play themselves.

 

[dad4]

And the key to strong defense, if the ball gets by you , the body doesn't. People dont realize how important upper body strength is in soccer also.

Here's the definition of the foul you're advocating:

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the path of the opponent to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction by an opponent when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

A good ref will see that foul for what it is. Unfortunately, far too many referees are afraid of their own whistle.

 

[Lavey29]

Here's the definition of the foul you're advocating:

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the path of the opponent to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction by an opponent when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

A good ref will see that foul for what it is. Unfortunately, far too many referees are afraid of their own whistle.

Oh good grief, do you even watch high level soccer and the amount of physical contact there is on the field? The defensive player has just as much right to the ball as the offensive player. I'm familiar with the game, played in college and still currently referee also.

 

[N00B]

Oh good grief, do you even watch high level soccer and the amount of physical contact there is on the field? The defensive player has just as much right to the ball as the offensive player. I'm familiar with the game, played in college and still currently referee also.

So long as you’re playing the ball, not the player, it’s fair game.

 

[N00B]

when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

Key phrase here.

 

[Lavey29]

So long as you’re playing the ball, not the player, it’s fair game.

That's a proper way to view it but to think there will not be physical contact and body positioning to gain advantage is foolish. Soccer is a physical sport, not just from the waist down.

 

[Lavey29]

Here's the definition of the foul you're advocating:

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the path of the opponent to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction by an opponent when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

A good ref will see that foul for what it is. Unfortunately, far too many referees are afraid of their own whistle.

The key to this being a foul is the last part " when the ball is not within playing distance of either player"

How many times do you see a defender wall screen a ball rolling over the end line or rolling back to their keeper?

 

[dad4]

Key phrase here.

Lacey's example was what to do when the ball gets past you. His suggestion was to block the progress of the player.

I am picturing the moment when the ball is 3 feet behind the defender. No problem with a quick pivot to get there first. The sideways step and arm bar while facing the wrong way? Hard to see that as an attempt to play the ball.

 

[happy9]

Lacey's example was what to do when the ball gets past you. His suggestion was to block the progress of the player.

I am picturing the moment when the ball is 3 feet behind the defender. No problem with a quick pivot to get there first. The sideways step and arm bar while facing the wrong way? Hard to see that as an attempt to play the ball.

Fine line for defenders and requires maturity and body control. Soccer is physical but it's not random violence, that's the beauty of it. You are not trying to knock the ball from the player, you are trying to move the ball away from the player or take the ball. The defender is not a free safety.

Anything perceived as not playing the ball will be called. Ulittles especially don't have the body control, for the most part.

 

[Lavey29]

Lacey's example was what to do when the ball gets past you. His suggestion was to block the progress of the player.

I am picturing the moment when the ball is 3 feet behind the defender. No problem with a quick pivot to get there first. The sideways step and arm bar while facing the wrong way? Hard to see that as an attempt to play the ball.

I'd suggest you watch some Sergio Ramos defending clips or any good defensive clips of high level soccer particularly when they get beat initially.

If you watch top soccer you will note European style soccer differs from US in that they play with the ball more underneath their body rather then out front. This is really noticeable in tight spaces like working inside the box. Makes defending more difficult to in order to try and play the ball without to much contact to result in a foul but enough contact to get the player off his rhythm at that moment.

Before the pandemic I was having my kid do private training with a experienced coach who specializes in European style soccer play ball movement. If you watch Press play on the WNT you will see her style shows it.

 

[happy9]

I'd suggest you watch some Sergio Ramos defending clips or any good defensive clips of high level soccer particularly when they get beat initially.

If you watch top soccer you will note European style soccer differs from US in that they play with the ball more underneath their body rather then out front. This is really noticeable in tight spaces like working inside the box. Makes defending more difficult to in order to try and play the ball without to much contact to result in a foul but enough contact to get the player off his rhythm at that moment.

Before the pandemic I was having my kid do private training with a experienced coach who specializes in European style soccer play ball movement. If you watch Press play on the WNT you will see her style shows it.

Ramos is a good defender but one of the dirtiest players in La Liga. Take a peek at Virgil van Dijk from liverpool. Maybe the best CB on the planet