State Cup

[JB805]

Here's the Elite Cup Rankings. Not going to do results for everything but it will be interesting to see how accurate this is.

Rank	Team	Score	CA Rank
1	Rangers FC Rangers FC G2012 White	36.48	24
2	East County Surf Soccer Club G2012 Academy (Gigante)	35.88	26
3	Legends FC (CA) Legends FC Temecula Valley G12 FC	35.81	27
4	Sand and Surf SC G12 Elite	35.78	28
5	CDA Slammers HB G12 Zermeno	35.68	30
6	Rangers FC Rangers FC G2012 Orange	35.26	32
7	SDSC Surf SDSC Surf 12G Pre-GA	35.13	34
8	Empire SC Empire SC G2012 Orange	35.03	35
9	AC Brea Soccer AC Brea - G12 PDA	34.82	38
10	City SC Temecula CITY SC TEM G12 Premier	34.65	44
11	San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Conteville) 2012	34.63	45
12	CDA Slammers Cerritos G12 Garcia	34.52	48
13	San Diego FORCE FC SD Force FC G2012 Academy Dotson	34.38	50
14	LA Surf Soccer Club LA Surf SW G2012 - KoBozart	34.08	54
15	Rebels Soccer Club Rebels SC IE - G12 Brown	34.02	59
16	Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Academy	34.02	59
17	City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy II - Salinas	34.00	61
18	AYSO United SoCal Downey G2012	33.98	62
19	AYSO United SoCal Los Angeles G2012 Blue	33.95	63
20	Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Kr. Kutscher	33.89	68
21	Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G12 Maroon	33.88	70
22	AYSO Matrix G2012E Morgan	33.84	71
23	SoCal Elite FC IE G12 GOLD	33.82	72
24	OC Surf North G2012 White (Carrillo)	33.73	73
25	OC Surf North G2012 Blue (Warman)	33.58	81
26	Claremont Stars Soccer Club Girls- G2012 Black	33.43	84
27	City SC - San Marcos G2012 Premier	33.26	86
28	ALBION SC San Diego ALBION SC San Diego G12 Academy	33.35	87
29	Sporting California USA Sporting California USA G2012 Pre ECNL*	33.35	88
30	Murrieta Soccer Academy G12 Academy	33.34	89
31	AYSO United SoCal Santa Clarita G2012 Blue	33.24	92
32	Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 White Anderson*	33.24	93
33	CDA Slammers G12 Flores (Whittier)	33.13	96
34	Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Boswell	33.03	101
35	Culver City Football Club Culver City FC G12 Blue	32.96	106
36	LA Breakers FC G12 Altschuld	32.91	111
37	LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL RL	32.90	113
38	Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Gold	32.75	115
39	Express Soccer G12 Premier Resende	32.68	116
40	Antelope Valley Futbol Club Antelope Valley Futbol Club - G2012	32.59	120
41	Chelsea SC G12 Hewson	32.57	122
42	South Valley Surf SC G2012	32.43	126
43	Tudela FC Los Angeles Tudela FC LA 2012 White	32.43	127
44	Fury FC (S-CA) Fury FC G12	32.35	129
45	PYSL Blast SC G2012 Bollin	32.10	140
46	East County Surf Soccer Club G2012 Premier (Tedesco TS)	31.96	144
47	City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Premier - MacKellar	31.85	153
48	California Football Academy CFA Riptide Black G2012 Blazynski	31.77	158
49	Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SFV G12	31.75	160
50	Legends FC (CA) Legends FC Orange County G12 FC	31.61	164
51	LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf LC - SOCAL	31.53	167
52	Santa Monica Surf Santa Monica Surf G2012 Blue	31.38	173
53	Slammers FC Newport Mesa G2012 ROTH	31.29	179
54	San Clemente Surf Soccer G12 Phillips	31.28	181
55	AYSO United SoCal Los Angeles G2012 White	31.21	186
56	Murrieta Soccer Academy G12 Pre Academy	31.03	197
57	Pateadores Soccer Club **IRV G2012	30.00	255
58	Legends FC (CA) Legends FC Temecula Valley G12 Black	29.72	272
59	Los Angeles Soccer Club LASC G12 DG	27.12	413
60	LAFC So Cal G2012 (2013) GOLD	30.44	-

 

[Hodari]

Good Luck in state Cup and Happy Holidays.

 

[JB805]

Vegas Cup Schedule is out

Vegas Cup is a good tournament with good competition from outside of the state. In 2012 age group top flight, there are teams from California, Nevada, Michigan, Hawaii, Arizona, Texas and Washington. Second flight has teams from California, Nevada, Utah, Texas, Arizona and Hawaii.

Team	Rating	National Rank
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite	39.71	4
Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite	38.86	7
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley	38.69	9
Legends FC AZ G2012	38.32	13
Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala	38.27	14
Crossfire Premier XF 2012 Girls RCL 1	38.04	19
Empire SC G2012	38.04	20
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL	37.75	28
Sting Pre-ECNL 12G Pearson	37.61	33
BVB Pre-ECNL 12G Yellow	37.44	36
Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL	37.34	39
PRFC Scottsdale 12G Reavey	37.04	47
Eagles G2012	36.85	55
United FC Michigan	36.07	87
Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club Pre-Elite 64 G2012	35.39	138
Surf Hawaii 12G Academy	-	-

 

[JB805]

Vegas Cup Schedule is out

Vegas Cup is a good tournament with good competition from outside of the state. In 2012 age group top flight, there are teams from California, Nevada, Michigan, Hawaii, Arizona, Texas and Washington. Second flight has teams from California, Nevada, Utah, Texas, Arizona and Hawaii.

Team	Rating	National Rank
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite	39.71	4
Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite	38.86	7
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley	38.69	9
Legends FC AZ G2012	38.32	13
Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala	38.27	14
Crossfire Premier XF 2012 Girls RCL 1	38.04	19
Empire SC G2012	38.04	20
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL	37.75	28
Sting Pre-ECNL 12G Pearson	37.61	33
BVB Pre-ECNL 12G Yellow	37.44	36
Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL	37.34	39
PRFC Scottsdale 12G Reavey	37.04	47
Eagles G2012	36.85	55
United FC Michigan	36.07	87
Las Vegas Surf Soccer Club Pre-Elite 64 G2012	35.39	138
Surf Hawaii 12G Academy	-	-

Congrats to Rebels for winning the Vegas Cup. My DD's team has played them several times in the last year and this is a team that I have seen improve every time that they've played. They play great soccer and are definitely are deserved champions.

For those interested- I did score predictions for Vegas Cup using the YSR predictor model. There were 27 games played and 54 predicted scores (2 per game, 1 per team). Based off of the scores predicted, the predictor got the exact score 14/54 times (25.93%). The predictor was within 1 GD of the exact score 40/54 times (74.07%). The predictor was within 2 GD of the exact score in all 54 predictions (100%) of the time. YSR's predictor is very accurate. This was as of 1/2/2023.

YSR accurately predicted the result (correct winner or draw) of 18/27 games (66.67%).

YSR accurately predicted 3 of the 4 semi-finalist. The one team that they didn't accurately predict would win their bracket had added 2 top players to their roster.

YSR also accurately predicted the final. They didn't predict the correct winner of the tournament, however. The tournament was won in PKs by Rebels.

 

[TheStr1kerz]

First weekend shockers in Super Cup
Sporting Slammers had big wins over Rebels & Legends and win Bracket E
Eagles leading Bracket C currently were the lowest ranked
Bad day for the Flight 2 teams playing up...Liverpool 1 goal for 18 goals against /CFA White Kilpatrick 1 goal for 16 goals against/Santa Barbara 2 goals for 23 against/Legends SGV 1 goal for 13 against

In Elite Cup
LA Breakers played Flight 1 in the Fall but went 0-2 with 2 goals for/12 against

 

[JB805]

First weekend shockers in Super Cup
Sporting Slammers had big wins over Rebels & Legends and win Bracket E
Eagles leading Bracket C currently were the lowest ranked
Bad day for the Flight 2 teams playing up...Liverpool 1 goal for 18 goals against /CFA White Kilpatrick 1 goal for 16 goals against/Santa Barbara 2 goals for 23 against/Legends SGV 1 goal for 13 against

In Elite Cup
LA Breakers played Flight 1 in the Fall but went 0-2 with 2 goals for/12 against

Sporting Slammers and Eagles are the bracket busters. On the first day, 18 of 24 (75%) results were accurately predicted using YSR's predictor model. Sporting Slammers and Eagles accounted for 4 of the 6 inaccurate predictions. The other two were Pats vs DMCV Sharks (predicted a 1-1 tie, ended up a 4-1 win for Pats) and City SC vs Blues Shelton (predicted a 2-0 City win, ended up a 2-1 Blues win). I'll post more data after group rounds are over.

 

[Brav520]

Were those F2 teams forced to play in Super Cup?

if so, that’s a little unfair and something So Cal should look into next year

Santa Barbara having to travel all that way to play the best team in the country, how fun!

 

[ColdPizza]

Were those F2 teams forced to play in Super Cup?
if so, that’s a little unfair and something So Cal should look into next year
Santa Barbara having to travel all that way to play the best team in the country, how fun!

I know Legends TV was forced to play in the elite bracket. We did not meet the GPG threshold.
Yea, that sucks. But welcome to the club, SB!

 

[Brav520]

First weekend shockers in Super Cup
Sporting Slammers had big wins over Rebels & Legends and win Bracket E
Eagles leading Bracket C currently were the lowest ranked
Bad day for the Flight 2 teams playing up...Liverpool 1 goal for 18 goals against /CFA White Kilpatrick 1 goal for 16 goals against/Santa Barbara 2 goals for 23 against/Legends SGV 1 goal for 13 against

In Elite Cup
LA Breakers played Flight 1 in the Fall but went 0-2 with 2 goals for/12 against

Beach Ayala is a F2 team , though they did a little better 0 GF, 6 GA

 

[Brav520]

I know Legends TV was forced to play in the elite bracket. We did not meet the GPG threshold.
Yea, that sucks. But welcome to the club, SB!

we’re those the smallest fields and goals your team played on all season?

I know they technically meet the requirements , but it was definitely a shock to see those smaller goals

 

[ColdPizza]

we’re those the smallest fields and goals your team played on all season?

I know they technically meet the requirements , but it was definitely a shock to see those smaller goals

I was not there last weekend due to being at the Surf fields with my youngest DD. I'll check it out this Saturday, though.

 

[JB805]

we’re those the smallest fields and goals your team played on all season?

I know they technically meet the requirements , but it was definitely a shock to see those smaller goals

My daughter is on Eagles and during the CSL season we played up vs 2011 teams. There were fields we played on where opposing teams were banging in goals top corner on kick offs and free kicks from the opposite side of the field. Fields at Silverlakes are small but feel like an 11v11 size field compared to those lol. Granted we were also on Field 5 this weekend by the entrance so I didn't see what the fields in the central part look like. The goals were tiny but Vegas Cup last weekend had shorter goals than this so that helped too.

 

[JB805]

Were those F2 teams forced to play in Super Cup?

if so, that’s a little unfair and something So Cal should look into next year

Santa Barbara having to travel all that way to play the best team in the country, how fun!

It's possible. My son's B09 team was forced to play Super Cup. Entered into Elite Cup but when the brackets were released they had placed them in Super Cup and got an e-mail the next day asking for the difference in fees since we were now in Super Cup lol.

 

[TheStr1kerz]

Beach Ayala is a F2 team , though they did a little better 0 GF, 6 GA

Ur right I just didnt include them since they arent getting walloped like the other f2

 

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Were those F2 teams forced to play in Super Cup?

if so, that’s a little unfair and something So Cal should look into next year

Santa Barbara having to travel all that way to play the best team in the country, how fun!

I'm curious about this as well. The team placement criteria was clearly established and published at the beginning of the season. I know we may never know for sure, but I wonder if these 2012 teams requested to play up a bracket or were forced.

 

[Code]

It's possible. My son's B09 team was forced to play Super Cup. Entered into Elite Cup but when the brackets were released they had placed them in Super Cup and got an e-mail the next day asking for the difference in fees since we were now in Super Cup lol.

Just curious if your son's team was bracketed outside the published team bracket criteria? Did they finish in the mid to upper group of Flight 1 or were they at the bottom of the bracket at the end of league play? Did they finish with a PPG of 2.5 (or higher) or 0.8 (or lower)? I'm genuinely interested in how consistent SOCAL is at adhering to its own published policies.

 

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I know Legends TV was forced to play in the elite bracket. We did not meet the GPG threshold.
Yea, that sucks. But welcome to the club, SB!

That is some BS

 

[JB805]

Just curious if your son's team was bracketed outside the published team bracket criteria? Did they finish in the mid to upper group of Flight 1 or were they at the bottom of the bracket at the end of league play? Did they finish with a PPG of 2.5 (or higher) or 0.8 (or lower)? I'm genuinely interested in how consistent SOCAL is at adhering to its own published policies.
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They finished 1st in Flight 1 North with a 2.42 PPG. By the guidelines given, they should be playing in Super Cup and SOCAL moved them into Super Cup so there's that.

There was a bit of an internal debate as to which Flight they should enter in but the coach's thought process is that they would get rolled up by the top NPL and upper half ECNL teams. Guess we'll find out as they're 4 goal underdogs to Pats ECNL in the group stage.

 

[Code]

They finished 1st in Flight 1 North with a 2.42 PPG. By the guidelines given, they should be playing in Super Cup and SOCAL moved them into Super Cup so there's that.

There was a bit of an internal debate as to which Flight they should enter in but the coach's thought process is that they would get rolled up by the top NPL and upper half ECNL teams. Guess we'll find out as they're 4 goal underdogs to Pats ECNL in the group stage.

Going from Flight 1 play to ECNL is going to be a tough match. I do think that there is a lot of similarity in the SOCAL NPL to Flight 1 play comparison as there has been no promotion and relegation between the two. I think the top Flight 1 teams are probably just as good as the top NPL teams. We will just have to wait and see how this year goes; if there are any trends. SOCAL may have to make some changes to their placement guidelines. Good luck to your team.

 

[JB805]

Going from Flight 1 play to ECNL is going to be a tough match. I do think that there is a lot of similarity in the SOCAL NPL to Flight 1 play comparison as there has been no promotion and relegation between the two. I think the top Flight 1 teams are probably just as good as the top NPL teams. We will just have to wait and see how this year goes; if there are any trends. SOCAL may have to make some changes to their placement guidelines. Good luck to your team.

We compete with the NPL Champions whenever we play (they're from the same city as us) so I think you're right in that the difference in level isn't that significant. Whenever we play ECNL teams though the speed of the game is much faster and you can see the difference in levels immediately. We'll see how it goes. Appreciate you.