SoCal Soccer League -"Wait, the fox will eat the chickens if he is guarding the henhouse ?"
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foreveryoung
SILVER ELITE
That's an interesting idea and made me think if that would actually be better for the players than the options we currently have.
Bring your player card and you're in Sunday's....
Can make it fun and more interesting, have games run every 1hr,: every one plays kind of games. 1-2 subs but you ask or sub yourself type deal. Games don't need to be full 90 when everyone is playing 60 minutes would due.
Can play with friends for other clubs, siblings, school mates just need a card or get on site for $5.
Personally my kids just wanted to play, they rarely carried about their opponents, players on some other teams unless there was something at stake like a championship. The times they did discuss mostly was about finding better competition or playing age up.
With extremely rare exceptions, unless you are an ECNL team with a winning record, you need to train girls up. You need to play your bench about half of every game, including tough ones, to get them ready to start someday, even if it means losing some games. Also, allow them to make mistakes without repercussion to keep their confidence up.
Top teams aside, I would encourage any player on a team where this doesn't happen to start looking for a new team now. This kind of team isn't going to be there in a year anyway.
Dirtnap
SILVER
We have had 2 so far. they even told us they had 4 Discovery guests. Then again we only have had a couple of refs even checking rosters.
Limit to 2 players playing down ( guests) and one game a day would curtail this activity.
Referees not going to check that closely so that why closing the roster the day before online and not allowing write-ins like what ECNL does is likely the better choice.
All this was/is the product of fast & loose suggestions rather than rules by the league and of course the clubs wanted that so they can play shell games with teams.
Yes there are times when a team could be short and need to guest pass but that's fine just make sure it's the same level or above there passing to not below. CSL does this and you don't hear the same time of problems they current socal level set creates.
Limit to 2 players playing down ( guests) and one game a day would curtail this activity.
Referees not going to check that closely so that why closing the roster the day before online and not allowing write-ins like what ECNL does is the better choice.
All this was/is the product of fast & loose suggestions rather than rules by the league and of course the clubs wanted that so they can play shell games with teams.
Yes there are times when a team could be short and need to guest pass but that's fine just make sure it's the same level or above there passing to not below. CSL does this and you don't hear the same time of problems the current socal level set creates.
Clean up the problem or every week clubs will exploit the strongly worded suggestions that have zero ramifications.
While I agree with all your sentiments, the clean up should happen next year. Give clubs fair warning and do it next year. This year is tough with the ref shortages and player shortages/uncertainties. This is a year of adjustments for everyone at work, at school and club soccer. This year we get to find out who the jerk coaches are.
6 Players on the bench. 1 write in. From their ECNL-RL team. Played the whole game. Scored 2 goals. 2-2 tie.
With 6 on the bench bringing another player is clearly competitive advantage but since that was ECRL assuming that's what their card said at least it appears the player wasn't necessary playing down if this was vs. Discovery NPL team?
Another thing refs could do it take a pic of each player when checking in for the game and associate it with rostered players.
Again, over time it will look weird when one kid looks like 3 different players throughout the season.
No need for the Refs to stop the game from happening. Records will be there if the league wants to address.
Flight 1 team. Not Discovery.
Yeah that's clearly playing down.
Even if you just limited to socal league carded player that would be better but to bring in or allow outside guest(s) to play down that's competitive advantage 100% with 6 bench players. Mutiple games a day allowance doesn't help either.
You do realize you are talking about IT and Socal Soccer League, right ?
This is a league that increases their team count and clearly doesn't upgrade their Database capabilities sufficiently.
You have to turn off access to the site for a section of it so the site will run correctly at the start of the season so teams can print out match reports?
They are relying on Demosphere completely and have no idea about IT.
Demosphere clearly not well run.
Demosphere can see the number of users being added and their is no excuse for user overload to bring down a system unless you have designed something that is very flawed from the beginning, which is entirely possible.
While we are talking about IT and Soccer leagues and governing entities, we might as well throw in Presidio and Cal South.
The thought process that went through the minds of the Presidio leadership as they let that site continue to exist in its current state, its the same overriding issue for why all the clubs left.
Cal South reworks their website in an apparent attempt to improve the look and ease of use. Now you have a site that has very little dynamic database content on it that runs slower than molasses and ease of use factor marginally better. For as little as that site does, it should run way faster.
These leagues are either not seeking IT consultant advice or choosing some really inept professionals to make their web decisions.
Cost isn't a factor on being guided in the right direction. The direction you choose can be expensive, but So Cal and Cal South spend money and they are getting ripped off for what they are getting.
What you are suggesting is absolutely where roster verification needs to go.
But the clubs are the ones that chose this current status.
Clubs taking the money, throwing the kids and families under the bus. Socal Soccer League acting as intermediary for the process.
It's good that others see the disconnect between tech and soccer leagues.
As you said the people in charge probably like the disorganization because it somehow benefits them.
The problem is without rules + enforcement it just ends up being never-ending complaint threads like this one + clubs bending the rules for wins.
Back in the Spring, Presidio Board was discussing what to do with the left-over resources since it appeared there would be no fall gaming schedule for the league.
Despite that, there are still a small number of clubs participating --
https://2021leaguepages.affinitysoc...ccepted_list.asp?sessionguid=&Tournamentguid={6E28D5F1-C512-4EBB-8D72-CE44E46FE469}
Presidio had a big challenge to its existence back in 2004-5 when the league's Secretary resigned and deleted all the schedule information on his way out, all because the league had asked him to improve the appearance of the website from text-only to a more modern look. I heard from someone at a monthly meeting that it was because he was being paid a modest sum to maintain the old website, which included updating standings for hundreds of games each week and the new system would be automatically updated and bypass his touch.
I can no longer find the Cal South monthly BOD meeting minutes on their website, so I have no idea what is going on there.
Well thought CS is creating a new league
" Cal South is creating a new league in the San Diego area...And we want you to help us name it!
Winning entry wins $500 worth of Cal South-branded Nike gear!
A new Cal South gaming circuit league will begin play in and around the San Diego area starting in the fall of 2022. The league will be open to all boys' and girls' teams in the 8U to 19U age groups.
To get this new league off the ground, we need your help in giving it a great name!
The creator of the winning entry will receive $500 worth of Cal South-branded Nike gear. In the event that two or more people give us the same name for the new league, the winner will be the one whose entry we received first"
Any ideas?
I think Bob Turner should anonymously submit about 100 entries.