SDSC Navy Team

[Supermodel56]

It was enough for a grown women to feel fearful to get the player cards.

Yeah, like I've been trying to say, I think there's a huge disconnect between what a lot of the parents are looking for in a club experience vs what Coach Joe is about. Knowing a lot of these moms, half of them are fearful simply walking into an ethnic restaurant, so it really doesn't bear any weight with me.

Why is it dumb to wonder if SDSC is actually the biggest club in the county? I heard when Carlsbad Lightning and Carlsbad Wave combined into Carlsbad United (now LAGSD) they had over 4000 players.

SDSC has 94 competitive teams between boys and girls... and yes, LAGSD has 104 - so they're 2nd - but you also have to keep in mind SDSC is competing for players with SD Force, Scripps United, and SD Surf among others just down the street. your comment is dumb because you completely missed the point that it's one of the largest clubs and yet few are ranked... compare that to Albion/LAGSD. in fact, not sure if it's accurate, but according to their new website, SDSC hasn't produced a college player since 2014.

Point is - for better or worse, most of the families are there for social reasons, just getting the kids out of the house, and convenience more than soccer. Which is why they would never fully appreciate a coach like Joe - or even Pete for that matter. It's why they only play 7 tournaments a year and think it's too much. It's why they don't want/need their kids to get yelled at. It works for SDSC and if they changed it and started having higher expectations from the players and parents, they would definitely lose players. Most of these kids/parents are just as perfectly happy on the 4th-5th-6th teams as the 1st and 2nd... It just is what it is...

 

[outside!]

I don't know anything about Joe or Pete. I am not a fan of coaches that yell AT the players however. Instructions are one thing, demeaning is another (not saying Joe or Pete do that). Coaches are supposed to coach from the sidelines, but not so much that the players do not have a chance to make some decisions for themselves. Most instruction should be during practice. From what you are describing, SDSC seems like a big "small" club. More kids playing soccer is good and there need to be teams for all skill/interest levels. The better players may need to move on at some time to play on higher level teams against better competition. Players that do not work on skills outside of practice will not make it to the top levels. That is OK as long as they understand that. If your player is at SDSC and wants to play in college, you may want to look around for a club with GDA or ECNL teams, good coaching and a dedicated college recruiting liason. D1 schools are now recruiting freshman and sophomores.

 

[Supermodel56]

I don't know anything about Joe or Pete. I am not a fan of coaches that yell AT the players however. Instructions are one thing, demeaning is another (not saying Joe or Pete do that). Coaches are supposed to coach from the sidelines, but not so much that the players do not have a chance to make some decisions for themselves. Most instruction should be during practice. From what you are describing, SDSC seems like a big "small" club. More kids playing soccer is good and there need to be teams for all skill/interest levels. The better players may need to move on at some time to play on higher level teams against better competition. Players that do not work on skills outside of practice will not make it to the top levels. That is OK as long as they understand that. If your player is at SDSC and wants to play in college, you may want to look around for a club with GDA or ECNL teams, good coaching and a dedicated college recruiting liason. D1 schools are now recruiting freshman and sophomores.

I'm with ya. In general, not a fan of yelling, but there are different types and different situations.

Agree re: college - if you have any college ambitions, you'll likely need to play somewhere else - you'll never get the exposure you need at SDSC because most of the parents won't be willing to shell out to attend enough ID showcases to get the exposure you need - and the reality is, most of them know their kid isn't being recruited anyway, so why bother.

 

[push_up]

There is something to be said for playing because you love the game. Too many players have coaches and parents that destroy this passion. It is hard to keep it at the highest levels. The ones that make it have amazing internal motivation to simply become better.

One of my favorite things to do is watch adult soccer league participants once they are done with competitive soccer. It is awesome to watch how much fun they have playing the game they love.

 

[Monkey]

Yeah, like I've been trying to say, I think there's a huge disconnect between what a lot of the parents are looking for in a club experience vs what Coach Joe is about. Knowing a lot of these moms, half of them are fearful simply walking into an ethnic restaurant, so it really doesn't bear any weight with me.



SDSC has 94 competitive teams between boys and girls... and yes, LAGSD has 104 - so they're 2nd - but you also have to keep in mind SDSC is competing for players with SD Force, Scripps United, and SD Surf among others just down the street. your comment is dumb because you completely missed the point that it's one of the largest clubs and yet few are ranked... compare that to Albion/LAGSD. in fact, not sure if it's accurate, but according to their new website, SDSC hasn't produced a college player since 2014.

Point is - for better or worse, most of the families are there for social reasons, just getting the kids out of the house, and convenience more than soccer. Which is why they would never fully appreciate a coach like Joe - or even Pete for that matter. It's why they only play 7 tournaments a year and think it's too much. It's why they don't want/need their kids to get yelled at. It works for SDSC and if they changed it and started having higher expectations from the players and parents, they would definitely lose players. Most of these kids/parents are just as perfectly happy on the 4th-5th-6th teams as the 1st and 2nd... It just is what it is...

Nice try. I went back and looked at some of your posts. You are in the 08G forum a lot and claim you have an 08 dd. But then a few months later you claim you are looking for mexican league teams for your younger dd, an 07. (Not sure if you know it but 2007 kids are older than kids born in 2008). And earlier you write on another thread "From a coaches prospective.." Also in half your posts you claim to be an inexperienced ULittle parent asking for advice and in half you have a deeper understanding or rather opinion of youth soccer. So which personality are you today Joe?

 

[baldref]

Additionally, i don’t see a coach getting kicked out of a game every now and then a bad thing. It shows passion and that he actually cares and is willing to back up his players. I’d take that over a coach who treats the team like just a paycheck and doesn’t give a rats ass if they win or lose.

I do.


I've known Joe (from reffing his games) for a very long time. Nice man. Unless he's screaming at little girls. I would never have left my daughter with a coach like that, but if parents are OK with that, who am I to tell them different. But like I said, a very nice man away from the field.

 

[Surfref]

You guys need to knock this crap off. This thread was started as a way for a coach to find a couple guest players for a tournament and you have turned it into a complete cluster F. Coaches come on here all the time looking for a guest player or two and some of you take them up on it. The BS you are throwing around on this thread would scare any coach away in the future from posting on this site and looking for a player that might be one of yours. The subjects of some threads lead to debate and others like this one are about helping each other out. So, grow the F up!!

 

[coachsamy]

Nice try. I went back and looked at some of your posts. You are in the 08G forum a lot and claim you have an 08 dd. But then a few months later you claim you are looking for mexican league teams for your younger dd, an 07. (Not sure if you know it but 2007 kids are older than kids born in 2008). And earlier you write on another thread "From a coaches prospective.." Also in half your posts you claim to be an inexperienced ULittle parent asking for advice and in half you have a deeper understanding or rather opinion of youth soccer. So which personality are you today Joe?

Did anyone talked shit about your coach or his tournament when he was promoting it? Just like Kickball Joe is not everyone's cup of tea, so is your beloved AM!

 

[Socal United]

You guys need to knock this crap off. This thread was started as a way for a coach to find a couple guest players for a tournament and you have turned it into a complete cluster F. Coaches come on here all the time looking for a guest player or two and some of you take them up on it. The BS you are throwing around on this thread would scare any coach away in the future from posting on this site and looking for a player that might be one of yours. The subjects of some threads lead to debate and others like this one are about helping each other out. So, grow the F up!!

Well said. I tried to go the diplomatic route but better just said this way. I honestly don't get it.

 

[outside!]

You guys need to knock this crap off. This thread was started as a way for a coach to find a couple guest players for a tournament and you have turned it into a complete cluster F. Coaches come on here all the time looking for a guest player or two and some of you take them up on it. The BS you are throwing around on this thread would scare any coach away in the future from posting on this site and looking for a player that might be one of yours. The subjects of some threads lead to debate and others like this one are about helping each other out. So, grow the F up!!

Guesting is a great way to find out if the coach is a good fit. I would also suggest watching a game without the coach knowing as well.

 

[zebrafish]

You guys need to knock this crap off. This thread was started as a way for a coach to find a couple guest players for a tournament and you have turned it into a complete cluster F. Coaches come on here all the time looking for a guest player or two and some of you take them up on it. The BS you are throwing around on this thread would scare any coach away in the future from posting on this site and looking for a player that might be one of yours. The subjects of some threads lead to debate and others like this one are about helping each other out. So, grow the F up!!

Yeah, let's get back to bashing refs and how terrible they are

 

[baldref]

Yeah, let's get back to bashing refs and how terrible they are

Here here! Now we’re talkin

 

[Round]

A little late, but i like the guy, my kid liked him, and her friends did to. Compared to similarly situated coaches, one of the best.

 

[Fact]

A little late, but i like the guy, my kid liked him, and her friends did to. Compared to similarly situated coaches, one of the best.

So was your dd and her friends the typical slackers at SDSC that he talks about in his posts?

 

[Supermodel56]

Man, I was about to let it drop it after SurfRef, but now that it's back on... =)

SDSC is a great club that I would highly recommend for all but this coach.

So... translation: "Monkey highly recommends any of the other SDSC coaches - none which have been able to produce a ranked team - because unlike Joe, they never yell during games." Love it.

Got any more useful advice for picking a club, Monkey? Lemme guess... The 05 and 03 D Team mgrs bring cupcakes after every practice, 5 stars!!!

Your credibility is rapidly eroding... and nice try, I'm not Joe, but I'll tell you this - I bet more than half the SDSC coaches reading this are secretly agreeing with me - they're probably frustrated as hell too - hate losing, but can't yell at any of the kids either because half the kids/parents will get upset and leave.

 

[Monkey]

You guys need to knock this crap off. This thread was started as a way for a coach to find a couple guest players for a tournament and you have turned it into a complete cluster F. Coaches come on here all the time looking for a guest player or two and some of you take them up on it. The BS you are throwing around on this thread would scare any coach away in the future from posting on this site and looking for a player that might be one of yours. The subjects of some threads lead to debate and others like this one are about helping each other out. So, grow the F up!!

Surfref, I normally agree with you. But Joe is a special case. He has multiple aliases on this forum and has done his own bashing of teams, coaches and parents as Adidas26 which we all know is him, including:

Anaheim Surf Winter Cup thread in G07 post #11 - "That Team has allways played dirty and Parents are very bad!"

SD Surf Thanksgiving Challenge 2016 thread in G07 post # 27 "They Had Guest Players, come on"

Albion Cup G04 thread in G04 - multiple posts slamming AC Toumi for bringing players to Sharks and Albion including "Sharks lost 8 players this year from the original Toumi team, witch know is Albion DA. Lol" For the record it was not 8 players but nice try as I think he might have lost one or 2 to Sharks that year.

If Spacey did not start complementing him, I probably wound not have said anything. After PMing with Spacey, you might have noticed a change in his stance but I know he regrets posting anything given further information and reflection.

Also another poster that I have become friends with on this site has confirmed that he yells tackle when his players get beat. They don't do it right and regardless of whether the ref calls it or not, that is extremely dangerous. The poster told me that her dd looked like she had been "run over by a lawnmower after the game" with cuts, bruises and cleat marks because she does not back down. Obviously some contact is normal in soccer but it must be really unnerving to be on a breakaway and hear the other coach screaming at the top of his lungs, tackle. To me that is poor sportsmanship.

He is also on this forum as Jojosoccer and I believe he is also Supermodel given my comments above.

As icing on the cake, look at baldref's comments. Spot on!

Charity starts at home and if Joe does not want to hear negative comments about himself, he should stop doing it to others.

 

[Fact]

Man, I was about to let it drop it after SurfRef, but now that it's back on... =)

So... translation: "Monkey highly recommends any of the other SDSC coaches - none which have been able to produce a ranked team - because unlike Joe, they never yell during games." Love it.

Got any more useful advice for picking a club, Monkey? Lemme guess... The 05 and 03 D Team mgrs bring cupcakes after every practice, 5 stars!!!

Your credibility is rapidly eroding... and nice try, I'm not Joe, but I'll tell you this - I bet more than half the SDSC coaches reading this are secretly agreeing with me - they're probably frustrated as hell too - hate losing, but can't yell at any of the kids either because half the kids/parents will get upset and leave.

Let It Go Joe! LOL