SCDSL Playoff info?

[Not_that_Serious]

This is my son first year playing is SCDSL, under 2010b (2011 birthday year). Really low competing for the kids to learned anything teams beating teams 9/10/11 to 0/1 ect. But then again I get it teams are just staring , but I would have liked it if there where some sort of playoff after the season for how much the scdsl charges to participate the least they could do or even let the kids play south and east brackets. At this age kids just want to play. I think Sunday’s leagues have better competing and way cheaper.

Depends on the league. At the littles age groups they have more technical training. Issue occurs as they grow and Sunday leagues tend to make kids develop real bad habits.

 

[Soccer]

This is my son first year playing is SCDSL, under 2010b (2011 birthday year). Really low competing for the kids to learned anything teams beating teams 9/10/11 to 0/1 ect. But then again I get it teams are just staring , but I would have liked it if there where some sort of playoff after the season for how much the scdsl charges to participate the least they could do or even let the kids play south and east brackets. At this age kids just want to play. I think Sunday’s leagues have better competing and way cheaper.

I miss where $400 is a lot to charge for a fall league?

 

[Soccer]

Looks like the playoff schedule is up. They just have to plug in the trans, when season is done.

http://www.scdslsoccer.com/schedule/2019-playoff-schedule

 

[timbuck]

Looks like there will be 1 game the weekend of Nov 11. Either Saturday or Sunday. Mostly Sunday.
Then semi-final on Nov 17. Final on November 18th.

Seems they could have easily fit a few more teams in and had teams play 2 possible games the first weekend.

 

[Eagle33]

Looks like there will be 1 game the weekend of Nov 11. Either Saturday or Sunday. Mostly Sunday.
Then semi-final on Nov 17. Final on November 18th.

Seems they could have easily fit a few more teams in and had teams play 2 possible games the first weekend.

You have a choice to move to CSL where you will get 14 League games and League Cup games.

 

[Soccer]

Looks like there will be 1 game the weekend of Nov 11. Either Saturday or Sunday. Mostly Sunday.
Then semi-final on Nov 17. Final on November 18th.

Seems they could have easily fit a few more teams in and had teams play 2 possible games the first weekend.

You are basing this on? Silverlakes looks full the 10th and 11th. There also must be a winner so PK's can push games longer. Remember it gets dark at 5PM. I am sure if it was not completely full they would not have games at RMV as well.

 

[javiecua03]

I miss where $400 is a lot to charge for a fall league?

$400 ,plus ref fees adds up. no reason 7 yr olds need 2 or 4 refs. I would understand if they gave them playoff or the most have them play other conferences,12 games really for $400. you have a Sunday or Saturday league charge $100 nice turf and grass fields.

 

[javiecua03]

Depends on the league. At the littles age groups they have more technical training. Issue occurs as they grow and Sunday leagues tend to make kids develop real bad habits.

its scdsl , yeah that right more technical training, what would be the issue once they grow say to next year ? yeah i see your point on developing bad habits but that's why finding the right league is important for their development.

 

[timbuck]

I don’t think the “league” cares or should be responsible for technical training.
That’s on the club and the coach. And ultimately on the parent to make sure they find the right fit.

 

[Kicker4Life]

its scdsl , yeah that right more technical training, what would be the issue once they grow say to next year ? yeah i see your point on developing bad habits but that's why finding the right league is important for their development.

You are focusing on the wrong thing. Leagues do not develop players coaches do. Find the right coach and the rest will fall in place.

 

[Soccer]

$400 ,plus ref fees adds up. no reason 7 yr olds need 2 or 4 refs. I would understand if they gave them playoff or the most have them play other conferences,12 games really for $400. you have a Sunday or Saturday league charge $100 nice turf and grass fields.

Most clubs pay the ref fees for the team. Ref fees go to the refs not the league.

What’s a playoff going to give you? CSL charges an additional fee for League Cup and ref fees. Additional funds, that you already think are to high.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Between rec and club.

Your kid is a 2011, 6 or 7 years old. Is it to much at that age? Probably. Then why did you do it?

You have club fees too, that you don’t have In a Sunday league. Volunteers for everything in a Sunday league.

 

[El Clasico]

Most clubs pay the ref fees for the team. Ref fees go to the refs not the league.

What’s a playoff going to give you? CSL charges an additional fee for League Cup and ref fees. Additional funds, that you already think are to high.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Between rec and club.

Your kid is a 2011, 6 or 7 years old. Is it to much at that age? Probably. Then why did you do it?

You have club fees too, that you don’t have In a Sunday league. Volunteers for everything in a Sunday league.

Not speaking for every club in so cal but in many, many years of club with multiple kids, I have never seen, experienced or heard of a club paying the ref fees for a team. Which club does that? That doesn't even make sense, why would the club fork out hundreds of dollars in ref fees when that would cut into their margins.

Also, while you are correct that you do have to pay ref fees for CSL League Cup (which contradicts your first statement), the tournament itself is FREE. Most teams choose to participate but there are a fair amount of teams that do not.

 

[Soccer]

CSL used to charge a fee. Now we haven’t been a part of CSL for years. Since SCDSL was formed.

I know for fact of many clubs that in fact pay ref fees.

Glad you are happy with CSL. How many older teams played League Cup on girls side? None of the top teams back in the day.

 

[timbuck]

Nothing is free.
If your club pays your ref fees- it’s part of the fee that you pay your club.
If there’s a “free”’league tournament, the league definitely baked that cost into the league fee they charge your club. And that was definitely passed down to the families that pay.

 

[El Clasico]

CSL used to charge a fee. Now we haven’t been a part of CSL for years. Since SCDSL was formed. Even prior to SCDSL, I don't recall them charging for it but it was a long time ago and I could be mistaken.

I know for fact of many clubs that in fact pay ref fees. I simply asked which ones?? Since you know for a "fact" that there are many, it should be an easy question to answer. How about naming two of them?

Glad you are happy with CSL. Who said my kids played in CSL?

How many older teams played League Cup on girls side? None of the top teams back in the day. Completely irrelevant to your post and my response. Sorta of like you.

 

[TheyBothPlay]

Not speaking for every club in so cal but in many, many years of club with multiple kids, I have never seen, experienced or heard of a club paying the ref fees for a team. Which club does that? That doesn't even make sense, why would the club fork out hundreds of dollars in ref fees when that would cut into their margins.

Really? It’s simply priced in to the dues for clubs that don’t separately itemize/ bill/collect ref fees and it feels a lot less cheap than those we’ve been at where the hand comes out for $4 every week making you think of that week in and week out. Does the hotel that doesn’t add an “energy surcharge”to your bill like some do or the airline that doesn’t add a “fuel surcharge” to your ticket like some do make ignorant decisions and fork out millions of dollars for those things cutting into their margins? Not really, they simply price those items into the headline price of the room or the ticket rather than appear to be nickle and diming the customer for everything. It’s annoying paying an energy surcharge, a resort fee, and a parking fee on top of the room rate even though in theory the total you’re paying at the end of the day should be the same.

 

[Soccer]

Nothing is free.
If your club pays your ref fees- it’s part of the fee that you pay your club.
If there’s a “free”’league tournament, the league definitely baked that cost into the league fee they charge your club. And that was definitely passed down to the families that pay.

Agree. To an extent.

Good question how much is the CSL entry fee per team? They also collect a bond for every team. How much bond money have they returned through the years.

SCDSL is $400 per team. No bond and no extra fee for Tournament at older ages. It comes down to logistics. Silverlakes could be used for a league Cup, but this is not what the DOC’s wanted.

 

[Soccer]

Blues (Gives each team $2k for ref fees and State Cup), Strikers MV, West Coast (used too, not sure anymore).

 

[El Clasico]

Really? It’s simply priced in to the dues for clubs that don’t separately itemize/ bill/collect ref fees and it feels a lot less cheap than those we’ve been at where the hand comes out for $4 every week making you think of that week in and week out. Does the hotel that doesn’t add an “energy surcharge”to your bill like some do or the airline that doesn’t add a “fuel surcharge” to your ticket like some do make ignorant decisions and fork out millions of dollars for those things cutting into their margins? Not really, they simply price those items into the headline price of the room or the ticket rather than appear to be nickle and diming the customer for everything. It’s annoying paying an energy surcharge, a resort fee, and a parking fee on top of the room rate even though in theory the total you’re paying at the end of the day should be the same.

Thank you for helping me make my point....which is the club does not pay it. The parents pay it...usually through their team fees which are held in a team account and usually accessed by a team admin or manager who pays the refs at every game. You seem more confused than the other guy.

Never had a DOC come up to our game and say... hey, save your money, have a pizza party or pay to video the game but the refs today are on the club.

 

[El Clasico]

Blues (Gives each team $2k for ref fees and State Cup), Strikers MV, West Coast (used too, not sure anymore).

Really? It’s simply priced in to the dues for clubs that don’t separately itemize/ bill/collect ref fees and it feels a lot less cheap than those we’ve been at where the hand comes out for $4 every week making you think of that week in and week out. Does the hotel that doesn’t add an “energy surcharge” to your bill like some do or the airline that doesn’t add a “fuel surcharge” to your ticket like some do make ignorant decisions and fork out millions of dollars for those things cutting into their margins? Not really, they simply price those items into the headline price of the room or the ticket rather than appear to be nickel and diming the customer for everything. It’s annoying paying an energy surcharge, a resort fee, and a parking fee on top of the room rate even though in theory the total you’re paying at the end of the day should be the same.

@TheyBothPlay, just helping you reply to the correct post.