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MakeAPlay said:
There are only like 6 or 7 teams in D1 college soccer that can consistently play possession against good opponents. Stanford, UCLA, Florida State, Virginia, Penn State and Duke are the only ones that I have seen do it regularly against good opposition. North Carolina plays Quasi-direct/possession/organized chaos. Outside of them you are in for a lot of mostly direct play from the remaining 300+ teams unless they are playing a seriously inferior opponent.

Sorry to break it to you. Good luck to you and your player.
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Even Barca goes direct against Madrid.
 
vegasguy said:
You can stop with trying to make it personal as you do not know me. So feel free to attack personally. What is your goal by doing so? Is that a question you won't answer again?

Truly if you want to make it personal dm me.
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Vegas guy, just ignore him like the rest of us do.....he constantly says he will stop posting and talking, he did it just recently and within 15 minutes he's talking and posting again. He tries to do say anything crazy so he can get someone to respond to him and derail any topic on here and turn it into his personal story and make it about him.
 
Kicker4Life said:
There was never trashing of the leadership....that’s clearly commentary.

Put it this way, when your HS crush hits on you while you’re engaged, what do you do? Drop your fiancé for your HS crush because they’re into you now? If you decline their advance because your in a committed relationship, are you mistreating you’re HS crush?

You say SB is too big, then why didn’t ECNL recognize that 5 years ago? Why wait till local clubs proved there was local talent in the SB that didn’t need to drive to OC to put together dominate teams, to offer entry?

Now the table has turned and I believe ECNL HQ has been fair in their approach to Beach, Legends and Pat’s to prove themselves and keep it out of the hand of Conference DOC’s. I liken it to boxing or MMA when they say, “keep it out of the hands of the judges”.

So I don’t think there is bad blood between Beach and ECNL HQ and those steps are evidence to that point unless you can argue ECNL has beef with Legends, Pat’s and WC as well.
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Kicker, Do you think ECRL will be some type of Pro/Rel? Or is this just a one-off to balance the Southwest Conference moving forward? I cannot find anywhere the rules for each conference and if there is automatic placement. In other words have the requirements to obtain ECNL for these clubs been detailed out or is it wishful thinking of "win and your in" for those on the outside looking in? Thanks!
 
rainbow_unicorn said:
Any thoughts on why possession is not more prevalent in college soccer? I would assume if two teams are about equal that the team that can play possession will have an advantage, no?
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Possession usually only works if every player on the field is above a certain skill level. It requires a lot of patience and to overlook size, speed and athletic ability for skill first. I am not for kick ball but I also think in America we love displays of athleticism and you won't see a ton of that from possession style soccer. Those are my two cents.
 
rainbow_unicorn said:
Any thoughts on why possession is not more prevalent in college soccer? I would assume if two teams are about equal that the team that can play possession will have an advantage, no?
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Because you need extremely technical players up and down your roster to pull it off. In addition, you need good athletes as well. Having the combination of both things is hard to come by across D1 teams.
 
SoccerGuru said:
Possession usually only works if every player on the field is above a certain skill level. It requires a lot of patience and to overlook size, speed and athletic ability for skill first. I am not for kick ball but I also think in America we love displays of athleticism and you won't see a ton of that from possession style soccer. Those are my two cents.
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What Baby Yoda said...

I love your avatar. Can't wait for season 2 to drop. The one good thing about this pandemic is that me my spouse and my two kids have gotten to go back over all of the great Star Wars stuff that has come out over the last 43 years and watch it in order of occurrance. We just finished the Clone Wars and love how season 7 overlaps with Revenge of the Sith.
 
MakeAPlay said:
There are only like 6 or 7 teams in D1 college soccer that can consistently play possession against good opponents. Stanford, UCLA, Florida State, Virginia, Penn State and Duke are the only ones that I have seen do it regularly against good opposition. North Carolina plays Quasi-direct/possession/organized chaos. Outside of them you are in for a lot of mostly direct play from the remaining 300+ teams unless they are playing a seriously inferior opponent.

Sorry to break it to you. Good luck to you and your player.
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I was talking about ECNL showcases. If you have attended them you would see what I am talking about, it doesn't take a genius. I was not referring to college D1 schools. By the way I agree with you for the most part on which D1 schools play possession.
 
dad4 said:
Even Barca goes direct against Madrid.
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They would never play a pro game on grass that is 8-9" tall is my point. Who has the advantage at a youth college showcase on a field with reallllly tall grass? Let's hope in the future ECNL spends some money to maintain their showcase fields was my point.
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Kicker4Life said:
The only potential issue would be that when FCV went DA, ECNL brought in Loudon their neighbor. Hopefully FCV will get back as Surf did since there are a lot of parallels in the situation.
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Yeah, there is alot of soccer congestion in the NoVA area where FCV is. Loudoun is literally across the street. Isn't TopHat in a similar situation geographically?
 
Yes, Top Hat is very close to the other GA clubs, but look at Dallas. Five ECNL clubs in one city, FC Dallas, Solar, DKSC, Sting & Texans.
 
VegasParent said:
I think you could be on to something. I don't think it's shady at all. If this is what they are doing it is smart for ECNL to do it. Kill any chance of competition from forming.
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I thought that’s what ECNL should have done from the outset..but for clubs to agree to form GA and then double back and accept an after the fact offer from ECNL is what I find questionable. Ethics count! All the more so in youth athletics for gods sake!
 
Surf Zombie said:
Yes, Top Hat is very close to the other GA clubs, but look at Dallas. Five ECNL clubs in one city, FC Dallas, Solar, DKSC, Sting & Texans.
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There are rumblings that Sting is going to get a 2nd Dallas ECNL team. They have a "big" announcement at 5pm today. They sure are not deserving of it.
 
SouthBayFutbol said:
Kicker, Do you think ECRL will be some type of Pro/Rel? Or is this just a one-off to balance the Southwest Conference moving forward? I cannot find anywhere the rules for each conference and if there is automatic placement. In other words have the requirements to obtain ECNL for these clubs been detailed out or is it wishful thinking of "win and your in" for those on the outside looking in? Thanks!
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I honestly don’t know how ECNL will proceed but if I have my guess (and wish) is that this year is a “one-off” but they prepare to love to Pro/Reg as we move forward.
 
Copa9 said:
I was talking about ECNL showcases. If you have attended them you would see what I am talking about, it doesn't take a genius. I was not referring to college D1 schools. By the way I agree with you for the most part on which D1 schools play possession.
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The fall of 2015 Phoenix Showcase was the last ECNL Showcase that my kid played in. She was U18 and they were only required to do one event that year although she did play in the Surf Thanksgiving event that year. Back when she played the fields were all immaculate for showcase events. Now there were a few individually not so good fields during league games (I remeber her playing against DeAnza Force her U14 season on a field at some park in Norcal) but most of the fields used were pretty good. She played for the Strikers for most of her club career and they probably had the worst fields of any of the 12 teams in the Southwest Conference when she played for them. Things must have changed after that with all of the competition for fields by the multitude of alphanumeric leagues.

Stay safe and socially distant. Good luck to you and your player.
 
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Kicker4Life said:
I honestly don’t know how ECNL will proceed but if I have my guess (and wish) is that this year is a “one-off” but they prepare to love to Pro/Reg as we move forward.
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I hope you are right that ECNL goes pro reg. It would make it much more appealing to parents.

However, if they go pro reg by team, they have to be willing to tell a top club that their 2005 or 2006 crop isn't very good.
 
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