Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

vegasguy said:
that sucks.
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Coach, you think the girls might be "hurting" a little over the last three years of men ((dads and dad coaches on boards)) running girls soccer? Ya, it sucks for all the girls but it's 100% not their fault their in pain and many of them are hurting themselves. You're a typical male coach who is clueless on the female and what she has gone through. You need a class quickly. You coach U12 and U16 girls? I hope you only coach your boys....

Vegas Guy Coach: "what girls are hurting.. 12yr old girls and boys are not hurting." You sure about that? That is someone who is out of touch
Vegas Guy Coach: "College players girls and boys are not hurting." Are you sure about? Try again coach.....
Vegas Guy Coach: "You know there are more girl scholarships per team than boys scholarships and those scholarships on the girls side tend to be worth more money than a boys scholarship. And your point is?

Coach, you think the girls might be hurting a little from all these changes the last three years and especially this year? Ya, it sucks for the girls, but it goes way deeper and you seem really clueless on how girls take things in. Typical male coach?
 
Swoosh said:
FC Dallas is a great addition and solidifies that conference.
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No doubt. They are a great addition and make that conference much better. What many people outside of FC Dallas don't know is how ugly it got between FC Dallas and ECNL last year when they had their membership revoked. I can only go off what I was told, but it was by people who have kids playing for FC Dallas. Apparently, there were lawyers involved and the situation was not good. Due to those actions last year, most FC Dallas families thought the club would be kept out this year as payback for what went down. It looked like they would be kept out until a couple of days ago, when magically their name was back in the fold. I think it will become obvious very soon how FC Dallas negotiated their way back into the league.

No matter what was part of the negotiation and what they used as a negotiating chip, they did a good job to get back into the league. They basically saved their girls program by doing so.
 
texanincali said:
No doubt. They are a great addition and make that conference much better. What many people outside of FC Dallas don't know is how ugly it got between FC Dallas and ECNL last year when they had their membership revoked. I can only go off what I was told, but it was by people who have kids playing for FC Dallas. Apparently, there were lawyers involved and the situation was not good. Due to those actions last year, most FC Dallas families thought the club would be kept out this year as payback for what went down. It looked like they would be kept out until a couple of days ago, when magically their name was back in the fold. I think it will become obvious very soon how FC Dallas negotiated their way back into the league.

No matter what was part of the negotiation and what they used as a negotiating chip, they did a good job to get back into the league. They basically saved their girls program by doing so.
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Sounds like it all worked out. That club and place they have is too good not to be with the best. Now, if we can work on the two in Socal, all will be forgiven. I have no idea what you just wrote but I can only speculate and I won;t because I know nothing about Texas soccer. I will say I love all your soccer facilities. In fact, I think Cali will keep us off the grass this summer. Maybe we can all drive to Dallas and play a big tournament in June to close out this season? I would make the drive to bring unity to all :) I would also be open to going to Vegas for a big celebration and encourage them with spending money. Super down with that. I like what I'm seeing everyone :)
 
Giesbock said:
If I understand what’s happening, a group of clubs who had been left out of ECNL, got together to form Girls Academy. ECNL saw that happen and decided to invite some more clubs in after all to whittle down GA?
If that’s what’s going on, some shady characters indeed..
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No no no. How did you come up with that?
 
Giesbock said:
If I understand what’s happening, a group of clubs who had been left out of ECNL, got together to form Girls Academy. ECNL saw that happen and decided to invite some more clubs in after all to whittle down GA?
If that’s what’s going on, some shady characters indeed..
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I think you could be on to something. I don't think it's shady at all. If this is what they are doing it is smart for ECNL to do it. Kill any chance of competition from forming.
 
Ellejustus said:
Coach, you think the girls might be "hurting" a little over the last three years of men ((dads and dad coaches on boards)) running girls soccer? Ya, it sucks for all the girls but it's 100% not their fault their in pain and many of them are hurting themselves. You're a typical male coach who is clueless on the female and what she has gone through. You need a class quickly. You coach U12 and U16 girls? I hope you only coach your boys.
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You can stop with trying to make it personal as you do not know me. So feel free to attack personally. What is your goal by doing so? Is that a question you won't answer again?

Truly if you want to make it personal dm me.
 
Copa9 said:
College coaches will find the top players. Hopefully ECNL will now mow their fields before showcases. :) :) :) Unless they are only interested in showcasing their direct style (ie kickball) teams to the disadvantage of possession style teams. :) :) :) Been there done that. :)
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There are only like 6 or 7 teams in D1 college soccer that can consistently play possession against good opponents. Stanford, UCLA, Florida State, Virginia, Penn State and Duke are the only ones that I have seen do it regularly against good opposition. North Carolina plays Quasi-direct/possession/organized chaos. Outside of them you are in for a lot of mostly direct play from the remaining 300+ teams unless they are playing a seriously inferior opponent.

Sorry to break it to you. Good luck to you and your player.
 
vegasguy said:
You can stop with trying to make it personal as you do not know me. So feel free to attack personally. What is your goal by doing so? Is that a question you won't answer again?

Truly if you want to make it personal dm me.
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It's not personal and let's drop all this for the sake of the girls. You said girls aren't hurting and we disagree. Drop it. I'm done talking about how the girls are doing. Drop it and I will regardless if you do not.
 
MakeAPlay said:
There are only like 6 or 7 teams in D1 college soccer that can consistently play possession against good opponents. Stanford, UCLA, Florida State, Virginia, Penn State and Duke are the only ones that I have seen do it regularly against good opposition. North Carolina plays Quasi-direct/possession/organized chaos. Outside of them you are in for a lot of mostly direct play from the remaining 300+ teams unless they are playing a seriously inferior opponent.

Sorry to break it to you. Good luck to you and your player.
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Any thoughts on why possession is not more prevalent in college soccer? I would assume if two teams are about equal that the team that can play possession will have an advantage, no?
 
vegasguy said:
You can stop with trying to make it personal as you do not know me. So feel free to attack personally. What is your goal by doing so? Is that a question you won't answer again?

Truly if you want to make it personal dm me.
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He doesn't need me to defend him but I will say that vegasguy helped my DD become the player she is. He coached her at an early age and she learned a lot from him. Even though I'm at a different club now I still recommend him to parents who are looking for a team.
 
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VegasParent said:
He doesn't need me to defend him but I will say that vegasguy helped my DD become the player she is. He coached her at an early age and she learned a lot from him. Even though I'm at a different club now I still recommend him to parents who are looking for a team.
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Thanks.. I appreciate the kind words. some how the conversation got off track.. boredom and rabbit holes I guess. Love you guys you know this. Hope you all are healthy and safe.
 
rainbow_unicorn said:
Any thoughts on why possession is not more prevalent in college soccer? I would assume if two teams are about equal that the team that can play possession will have an advantage, no?
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The season is very short and the amount of players that have enough technical proficiency and tactical awareness to perform at a high level against athletic players coming at them is very low. The coaches have to win to keep their jobs and with only a 3-4 month season to do it they will default to whatever will give them the highest chances to succeed. To truly play possession you have to have 10 technical field players and a keeper with sufficient footskills. It's not easy to build such a thing. Not only does a player have to be technical but they have to be able to think and perform quickly too. That's a tall order I am afraid and even on the top 5-10 teams you rarely have a roster that has the required players to pull it off. For example. Stanford and UCLA are filled with YNT players they both play only about 14-17 players in games that matter and on each team 7-8 players play 70 or more minutes a game and the rest play minutes just to give the attacking players a breather.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
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