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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%
  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%

  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
Wrong again. Ref was slow and had no clue what the hell he was doing that game. I'm not sure where we were, but it was Beaches ref and home crowd. That's a foul just like hack a shaq was a foul. It's what makes girls soccer suck sometimes. She wasn;t going up for a lay up dude.

Playing up has its pros and cons. Thankfully your goat wasn't hurt. I'm assuming this was 5 years ago?
 
Opposing temporary rule changes in youth soccer
made due to Covid because it negatively impacts the “beautiful game” is the very definition of losing the plot.

Kids in CA aren’t playing soccer, aren’t going to school, aren’t doing much of anything really because too many people share your way of thinking.
Actually, kids aren’t doing any of this because too many people share YOUR way of thinking.
 
That's why the ref doesn't call the foul. Late, defending team down one goal. Not saying it isn't right, just that's what the ref is thinking. If he gives the foul, he's giving a very good chance at goal, and Beach parents go apeshit. It's a no-win decision, so refs default to no decision.
Saying ref did do this or didn't do this is like having a crystal ball. This is clearly a foul and it should have been called.
 
Look what I found...lol. If you look close enough, you can see me in my chair just beside myself. It was the talk of the day. plus we beat the olders girls that day. No Kicker kids that day if I remember. I hope I wasn;t to cocky back then bro. I guess my dd goals got to my head....lol.
Looked clean to me. Maybe it was a message directed for you instead?
 
Look what I found...lol. If you look close enough, you can see me in my chair just beside myself. It was the talk of the day. plus we beat the olders girls that day. No Kicker kids that day if I remember. I hope I wasn;t to cocky back then bro. I guess my dd goals got to my head....lol.
If you play the clip at a slower speed you can catch @Sparky9 reaction, as he had one of the closest seats to that play.

Overall the Goats FC concept and atmosphere was chill, but every so often you'd get a set of opposing parents that would misconstrue the joyous environment as a personal dig at them / their team. Had a few approach me post game or in parking lots to express their rage at our girls "baahh"ing and our sideline laughing and "joking around". If they only knew that a majority of the time we were laughing at things that were not related to what was going on in the field of play but just having a good time. If we laughed at what was happening on the field it was watching our girls play different positions, trying to figure it out on their own, the "coaches" with their wigs and paint on.

"How dare you not take this U11 game seriously, how dare you!!!"
 
Looked clean to me. Maybe it was a message directed for you instead?
Yes, some parents take things out on other kids to seek revenge on parents they hate. Those days will be over soon too. My dd had a field day that day, so I'm sure one of the dads or mama bears from the other team had a pep talk about not letting those baby goats go "baaaaaaaahaaaa" all over the field. My dd has taken her fair share of clean shots from tough goats. I remember one from crazy Ray's dd during ODP tryouts. It was the last weekend of cuts and my goat gets blocked out ((clean play from a true goat)) and when she fell, she fell on her wrist. See attached :) The last three years have been so mellow and soft she has healed from all her previous injuries and was probably protected from serious injuries because of all the lies that went on and the age change. Broken Wrist.jpg
 
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If you play the clip at a slower speed you can catch @Sparky9 reaction, as he had one of the closest seats to that play.

Overall the Goats FC concept and atmosphere was chill, but every so often you'd get a set of opposing parents that would misconstrue the joyous environment as a personal dig at them / their team. Had a few approach me post game or in parking lots to express their rage at our girls "baahh"ing and our sideline laughing and "joking around". If they only knew that a majority of the time we were laughing at things that were not related to what was going on in the field of play but just having a good time. If we laughed at what was happening on the field it was watching our girls play different positions, trying to figure it out on their own, the "coaches" with their wigs and paint on.

"How dare you not take this U11 game seriously, how dare you!!!"
I dig this GOAT thing, it should still be a thing.
 
I dig this GOAT thing, it should still be a thing.
The Goat thing is amazing. It was fun trying to ask for permission by club coach and or Doc. We had to get our players cards somehow without the TM asking too many dam questions. It was not encouraged to play with the rebel Goats and their crazy ass parents back in the day. I had one say, "no, its not wise to play with those Goats. Plus, your girl will get hurt." I told them, "Too bad, give me my dd card please." It was that easy but soon the whole team found out and it was not praised from my dd old team higher ups. Today, the timing is perfect to go play goat fc style soccer. No Docs or coaches, just dads and moms letting the girls pick their positions and who starts and who comes off the bench because in the grand scheme of things, who cares!!!!
 
 
I dig this GOAT thing, it should still be a thing.
Still is, much easier to pull off at the younger ages. Once the girls started to age into the ECNL / DA age groups the clubs were much less tolerant of guest playing.

The most recent grouping, U-Littles, got quite a bit of heat for competing at a bigger tourney and coloring outside the lines in terms of some basic guidelines that were established in terms of how many players could be from the same club. It gave off the perception that the players were hand picked to build an "All-Star" squad and the discussion of what is fair and whether this belonged at the tournament the Goats entered was discussed back and forth with some heated exchanges.

I didn't have an issue with it because the Goats were non-traditional to begin, so any "rules" established in creating a Goats team is in itself something that is meant to be broken. Initially the concept was to pick the "parents" because the manner in which they carried themselves would either be conducive, or not, in creating a harmonious environment for a let it all hang out weekend of fun. The players were literally from Flight 1 through 3 and no one cared. Girls had water balloon fights, ate whatever they wanted, danced, painted their hair / face and took to one another so easily once the parents / coaches were out of the way. Watching our "coaches" be more concerned about their "green cups" as opposed to the score was classic. It was a great reminder of the fun the girls should be having to balance the work that constantly overshadows it.

I'm going to try and fetch some older content I posted on the history of Goats with some embarrassing pictures to boot.
 
Wrong again. Ref was slow and had no clue what the hell he was doing that game. I'm not sure where we were, but it was Beaches ref and home crowd.

It is absolutely a foul, yes, 100% of the time, always. I agree the ref was incorrect. What I am telling you are some of the reasons for why the non-call, that's it. If you are in a close game in a youngers match refs will always call games very very loosely because of the nature of the youngers game. Remember these kids aren't of the age to have the intent to foul. Hold up play? Physical play? Sure. But I can absolutely guarantee that the Beach CB did not go into that collision thinking "I'll take the foul here". They just aren't of the age to be able to make that decision.

I have only very very very rarely seen a ref call a youngers game tight. It just doesn't happen and more parents need to understand this. Youngers refs do not want to influence the game. How many times have you seen a youngers team ship a goal because a line judge misses that last touch before the ball goes out? That's on a decision that they are forced to make. If you got refs calling tight matches on the younger side against kids who are terrifically uncoordinated when they tackle, games would have scorelines of 30-1.
 
It is absolutely a foul, yes, 100% of the time, always. I agree the ref was incorrect. What I am telling you are some of the reasons for why the non-call, that's it. If you are in a close game in a youngers match refs will always call games very very loosely because of the nature of the youngers game. Remember these kids aren't of the age to have the intent to foul. Hold up play? Physical play? Sure. But I can absolutely guarantee that the Beach CB did not go into that collision thinking "I'll take the foul here". They just aren't of the age to be able to make that decision.

I have only very very very rarely seen a ref call a youngers game tight. It just doesn't happen and more parents need to understand this. Youngers refs do not want to influence the game. How many times have you seen a youngers team ship a goal because a line judge misses that last touch before the ball goes out? That's on a decision that they are forced to make. If you got refs calling tight matches on the younger side against kids who are terrifically uncoordinated when they tackle, games would have scorelines of 30-1.
Maybe for a short period of time. Because coaches would have to adjust to teach their players to stop mauling and play good technical defense.
 
Maybe for a short period of time. Because coaches would have to adjust to teach their players to stop mauling and play good technical defense.

It's hard, right. You have parents screaming from the sidelines to drop your shoulder and "don't let her get the ball!!!!" in the shrillest Karen voices they can. 50-50 balls are always going to have a level of violence to them. Keep in mind the age range, that Beach CB has probably grown 6 inches in the past year and is lucky to not trip when she walks, asking her to pull off a well-coordinated tackle and ball recovery is like asking the bull to make it through the china shop with zero damage. The teaching moment here is for the CB to play the ball but the outside back absolutely needs to stop running with her teammate.
 
If you play the clip at a slower speed you can catch @Sparky9 reaction, as he had one of the closest seats to that play.

Overall the Goats FC concept and atmosphere was chill, but every so often you'd get a set of opposing parents that would misconstrue the joyous environment as a personal dig at them / their team. Had a few approach me post game or in parking lots to express their rage at our girls "baahh"ing and our sideline laughing and "joking around". If they only knew that a majority of the time we were laughing at things that were not related to what was going on in the field of play but just having a good time. If we laughed at what was happening on the field it was watching our girls play different positions, trying to figure it out on their own, the "coaches" with their wigs and paint on.

"How dare you not take this U11 game seriously, how dare you!!!"
I must admit when our kids played Goats together I loved how some coaches lost their minds playing against a team who never practiced/played/ together and were out of position.
 
I'm going to try and fetch some older content I posted on the history of Goats with some embarrassing pictures to boot.
My goat before her first big Goats FC game in San Juan Capistrano where the swallows come every year.Oh Joy.jpg
I had one parent at Joy's Invitational accuse me of having alcohol in my red cup. "Way to set the example for little kids dad and drink at 10am....." I'm like, "what are you talking about mama bear?"
 
Cute photo of your daughter. Ready to rumble!
Thanks bro. All the girls had so much fun. We were all good players and like I said many times before, goat is in the eye of the beholder and we ALL think our goat is the best....lol! Each girl brought a great attitude to the fields. I got to meet a few dads who gave me sh*t on this forum but we were like old pals from high school when we finally got to drink from the red cup together. It was so cool and a breath of fresh air. The Doc called me afterwards and was super freaked out about this new club called, Goat FC. I promised him I wasnt leaving. Then Tad called and I had a different conversation with the Doc. Man, I'm still shocked how serious all this soccer stuff got. Crazy ass times we all live in.
 
My goat before her first big Goats FC game in San Juan Capistrano where the swallows come every year.View attachment 8687
I had one parent at Joy's Invitational accuse me of having alcohol in my red cup. "Way to set the example for little kids dad and drink at 10am....." I'm like, "what are you talking about mama bear?"

People need to not judge the red solo cup...have these people not heard of brunch...:cool:
 
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