Re-entry

espola said:
coach can do what he likes with the rest of the squad, including pulling them off for a short time for rest, possible injury analysis, or explanation of their errors as needed, without limits to their re-entry rights.
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That’s naive. Under these rules the end of the bench will never start. When they do get in and make several mistakes the coach will yank them for a starter. The end of the bench plays in fear mode. No re-entry and guarantee 25% starts for all means meaningful minutes without the fear of being yanked out of the game.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
That’s naive. Under these rules the end of the bench will never start. When they do get in and make several mistakes the coach will yank them for a starter. The end of the bench plays in fear mode. No re-entry and guarantee 25% starts for all means meaningful minutes without the fear of being yanked out of the game.
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Under the more liberalized rules I have proposed, a coach could sub the end of the bench player for one of the stars a without worrying that he would be stuck with that player until the final whistle since he could put the star back in whenever he wanted to.
 
espola said:
Under the more liberalized rules I have proposed, a coach could sub the end of the bench player for one of the stars a without worrying that he would be stuck with that player until the final whistle since he could put the star back in whenever he wanted to.
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Yep like in 5 minutes when the bench player makes a mistake. Under DA rules that bench player is starting at least 25% of the time and is likely going 60 min plus since the coach only has a few subs.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Yep like in 5 minutes when the bench player makes a mistake. Under DA rules that bench player is starting at least 25% of the time and is likely going 60 min plus since the coach only has a few subs.
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If the player makes a mistake, the coach can pull him out, show him on paper or a greaseboard what he should have done, and put him back in. Good coaches not limited by the DA restrictions do that now.
 
I said this somewhere else here before.
But more liberal sub rules also let you ease back a player who is coming off of an injury (minor or major).
 
timbuck said:
I said this somewhere else here before.
But more liberal sub rules also let you ease back a player who is coming off of an injury (minor or major).
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It allows a player to be removed from the game for evaluation of a possible concussion, for covering up a bleeding cut, or to recover from a cramp, and then put him back in later as appropriate.
 
End of the Line said:
As you know, the problems caused by your ongoing poor advice often must be solved by orthopedic surgeons.
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For those that don’t know the situation, my dd had acl and meniscus surgery 5 months ago. This asshole, the most despicable piece of trash, scum of the earth just said this! He doesn’t even have kids playing soccer anymore. This is about the lowest thing I have seen posted. This guy needs to be shamed off this server!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
That’s naive. Under these rules the end of the bench will never start. When they do get in and make several mistakes the coach will yank them for a starter. The end of the bench plays in fear mode. No re-entry and guarantee 25% starts for all means meaningful minutes without the fear of being yanked out of the game.
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Exactly
 
espola said:
Under the more liberalized rules I have proposed, a coach could sub the end of the bench player for one of the stars a without worrying that he would be stuck with that player until the final whistle since he could put the star back in whenever he wanted to.
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In your scenario the bench player is merely babysitting game minutes until the coach gets scared and puts the star back. That’s not a true test and the player knows it.
 
Josep said:
In your scenario the bench player is merely babysitting game minutes until the coach gets scared and puts the star back. That’s not a true test and the player knows it.
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Not if the coach is truly interested in "developing" that player. And if he is not, why is the player on the roster at all?
 
espola said:
Not if the coach is truly interested in "developing" that player. And if he is not, why is the player on the roster at all?
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A lot of the coaches I’ve been around say the development happens much more in practice. This is anywhere from club to MLS coaches.

Yes there’s obviously some decision making and improvements to be made in 11v11 or any game situation. But if your decision making and skills are not up to par in practice, you’ll get exposed in games.

It doesn’t mean these players are bad. It means they may not be up to the caliber of the level - ECNL or DA. They’d probably dominate flight one or DA2 or EGSL. This can change from week to week as Other factors include your opponents. If you’re playing Solar, you need a stronger lineup than if
You were playing against Pateadores.
 
Josep said:
A lot of the coaches I’ve been around say the development happens much more in practice. This is anywhere from club to MLS coaches.

Yes there’s obviously some decision making and improvements to be made in 11v11 or any game situation. But if your decision making and skills are not up to par in practice, you’ll get exposed in games.

It doesn’t mean these players are bad. It means they may not be up to the caliber of the level - ECNL or DA. They’d probably dominate flight one or DA2 or EGSL. This can change from week to week as Other factors include your opponents. If you’re playing Solar, you need a stronger lineup than if
You were playing against Pateadores.
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When my kids were still involved in youth soccer, I heard that USSF was creating a nationwide program to develop the best players. Then I saw that they were just going to rename the best boys teams, and start the program at age 16, and then start keeping standings and rewarding the clubs and teams with the best win-loss records, I realized it was just the same old BS. Whatever my personal feeling were, I was willing to wait and watch. So now, with over 10 years passed of their supposed 10-year plan, the mens USNT failed to qualify for the World Cup. We did better than that when all we had was the original underfunded ODP program.
 
espola said:
When my kids were still involved in youth soccer, I heard that USSF was creating a nationwide program to develop the best players. Then I saw that they were just going to rename the best boys teams, and start the program at age 16, and then start keeping standings and rewarding the clubs and teams with the best win-loss records, I realized it was just the same old BS. Whatever my personal feeling were, I was willing to wait and watch. So now, with over 10 years passed of their supposed 10-year plan, the mens USNT failed to qualify for the World Cup. We did better than that when all we had was the original underfunded ODP program.
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Your kids don’t even play but you’re still in here banging the drum? I imagine there’s a better way to spend your time with adult children no longer playing youth soccer instead of challenging everyone and everything on a youth soccer forum.

I’m curious why you are still carrying the torch?
 
Josep said:
Your kids don’t even play but you’re still in here banging the drum? I imagine there’s a better way to spend your time with adult children no longer playing youth soccer instead of challenging everyone and everything on a youth soccer forum.

I’m curious why you are still carrying the torch?
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Leave him alone, he’s entertaining.
 
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