JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
First game was flight 2 in Los Alamitos. Others were flight 1 in West Covina. Im not sure who is to blame here but I assume that the buck stops and starts which the league when it comes to providing refs.
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Maybe there is some culpability on the part of the league, but this is a much greater problem than just refs. It's nearly impossible to find employees currently. We schedule a handful of Zoom interviews and were lucky if one person shows up. College students can't get fed because the universities can't fill food service positions, restaurants are limiting hours or staying closed because they can't get help. It's hitting those businesses that were non-essential or closed during the pandemic the worst. Refs are part of this group. I also think all the new leagues that were created just before or during the pandemic hasn't helped either. Although, the number of teams participating may be the same or lower, I think the competition between leagues for refs isn't helping. We're fortunate in MLS Next in that through 5 games we've had full crews with the exception of our 1st game where we had to use a club linesman (poor guy). The ref crews have been solid.
As far as who is to blame, that's a better thread for the Off-Topic forum.
JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
I see what you did there.
Today the two games I was at had a ref, an AR and a club linesman for both games.
outside!
DA
My ref did four 9v9 games as a center with no AR's. All of the games at the complex only had one ref. He explained to two different groups of parents that they are partly to blame for the shortage of refs. He is thankful for the money but may start to refuse games at Robb Field due to the poor field conditions. He has twisted an ankle every time he refs there.
So you're saying that Robb Field hasn't changed any? Haven't been there in a few years, but it used to be the farther you get away from the channel and closer to the road, the worse the fields.
outside!
DA
Yep. Albion says it's the city's fault. The city doesn't really care. Too bad Albion is such a small club they can't afford to do anything about their crappy home fields.
I told a HSS ref to blow his whistle before halftime and he just smiled at me. He finally made his first call right before the end of the half. Insane because my kid and two others got whacked so hard their season was done.
You need to start Reffing. Your foul recognition is on point
Thanks man. My wife was at my kids last game. She rant into old dear friend from my dd old State Cup Championship team form 2015 glory days. Her dd has a nice ride to a big time college. However, soccer is all over for her. She just tore her other ACL. The game taught in America is super dangerous for girls. I lost count of the players my kid knows who have torn ACL, broken legs, concussions and the like. This is my last season and I am appalled at all the injuries. I think if coaches stop teaching kickball and teach possession ((pass the rock)) and the refs outlaw rugby, we will see less injuries.
Bummer for the player but at least they will honor the ride.
The college game is a whole another level in physical play with two games a week couple to three days apart making recovery challenging. The trainers are working double time.
Game before ours this past weekend had 37 fouls total between two teams 5 yellows but nothing out of the ordinary, like a typical game. They keep track of more stats in college. In club olders or high school never really saw those kind of stats so not sure In comparison but it's a different level of constant challenges.
The college game is played by bigger, faster players, so increased physicality is just physics. That is tempered in most cases by the fact that colleges can afford to hire better referees.
MacDre
PREMIER
Bingo. I think part of the problem is the unlimited substitutions. Many of the players that I’ve noticed in college are big and fast (female NFL type players) but I don’t think they would do well in a game with limited substitutions because I suspect they are not the greatest endurance athletes.
I think if substitutions were limited more marathon/basketball type athletes would be selected, better decision making would be emphasized, and injuries would go down.
If you have a college team of linebacker type female athletes that are instructed to go as hard as they can for 15 minutes before the next group of “linebackers” are substituted in, I think injuries and fouls substantially increase.
Mass subs don't happen that much, many teams only play 4-5 subs but others will use 7.
Yellow card accumulation does get a one game suspension.
Regular times draws go into OT, playing 110miutes and you have to have endurance. There are players that have not be subbed at all season.
I do agree that the unlimited subs can be gamed and might as well just go the fifa route but the one entry per half does limit some of that. Not sure having limited subs reduce chance of injury, might be the opposite.. players are hurting or out of gas late but all the subs have already been used for example.
Check out the USC v UCLA women's showdown for title this Friday if you want to see how things really go.
Think USC takes this game. Despite their early loses their execution of play (direct) has been difficult for most anyone they have faced thus far. UCLA has not always executed as well as they should have. It seems USC can exploit this lack of commitment in UCLA's play. But, then again this is a rivalry and team analysis can be completely thrown away.
UNC is the only program I have seen make “mass substitutions”. They will sub 7 or 8 girls at a time.
futboldad1
PREMIER
My money is on UCLA....but it's going to be a humdinger of a close game
MacDre
PREMIER
It seemed that UVA & FSU subbed approximately 2-3 players every 10-15 minutes at the game that I attended last week in Tallahassee.
I also couldn’t assess the quality of Jaelin Howell because FSU constantly booted the ball over midfield. UVA’s keeper tried to play out of the back before a defender booted the ball to a winger. I was throughly disappointed with both teams.
How the lawsuit coming? Get your kid in the National Team yet?
MacDre
PREMIER
Nope. Equality for all is my goal not the National Team/NWSL.
Well you don't see this often but Uruguayan referee Andres Cunha and video assistant Esteban Ostojich were suspended Wednesday after failing to give a red card to Argentina defender Nicolas Amend during a World Cup qualifying match against Brazil.
Also Wednesday, CONMEBOL suspended Chilean referee Roberto Tobar for not punishing Neymar and Juan Guillermo Cuadrado in Brazil’s 1-0 win over Colombia last Thursday.
Neymar put his chest close to Tobar’s during that match in Sao Paulo, but the Brazilian wasn’t booked. Cuadrado illegally used his arm later in the game and also wasn’t carded.
The south American and concacf games can be interesting physically with a lot of theatrics sometimes.
South American ref suspended after failing to give red card
Uruguayan referee Andres Cunha and video assistant Esteban Ostojich were suspended Wednesday after failing to give a red card to Argentina defender Nicolas Otamendi during a World Cup qualifying match against Brazil. Otamendi hit Brazil forward Raphinha with his elbow in the 35th minute of...
news.yahoo.com
Also Wednesday, CONMEBOL suspended Chilean referee Roberto Tobar for not punishing Neymar and Juan Guillermo Cuadrado in Brazil’s 1-0 win over Colombia last Thursday.
Neymar put his chest close to Tobar’s during that match in Sao Paulo, but the Brazilian wasn’t booked. Cuadrado illegally used his arm later in the game and also wasn’t carded.
The south American and concacf games can be interesting physically with a lot of theatrics sometimes.
outside!
DA
Now they need to go back and suspend the ref from the Euro Championship that did not red card Chiellini. For the record, I was rooting for Italy in that game.Well you don't see this often but Uruguayan referee Andres Cunha and video assistant Esteban Ostojich were suspended Wednesday after failing to give a red card to Argentina defender Nicolas Amend during a World Cup qualifying match against Brazil.
South American ref suspended after failing to give red card
Uruguayan referee Andres Cunha and video assistant Esteban Ostojich were suspended Wednesday after failing to give a red card to Argentina defender Nicolas Otamendi during a World Cup qualifying match against Brazil. Otamendi hit Brazil forward Raphinha with his elbow in the 35th minute of...news.yahoo.com
Also Wednesday, CONMEBOL suspended Chilean referee Roberto Tobar for not punishing Neymar and Juan Guillermo Cuadrado in Brazil’s 1-0 win over Colombia last Thursday.
Neymar put his chest close to Tobar’s during that match in Sao Paulo, but the Brazilian wasn’t booked. Cuadrado illegally used his arm later in the game and also wasn’t carded.
The south American and concacf games can be interesting physically with a lot of theatrics sometimes.