President Joe Biden

This one?

"To expand Americans’ access to the ballot box, reduce the influence of big money in politics, strengthen ethics rules for public servants, and implement other anti-corruption measures for the purpose of fortifying our democracy, and for other purposes."


Do you think Tucker has read it?

Yes he has. It's the most dangerous piece of legislation yet written and if passed (it won't) it will end the Republic. Predictive, not advocacy.
 
No more war analogies for politics, please.

Using that kind of language is irresponsible. It is unfortunate, but some people actually take it literally. Three weeks ago, political war analogies killed six people.

Dial it way back. This is not war. No rubicon was crossed. It is not time to fight. These are not cartridge box questions.

It is time for civilized adults to act like civilized adults.

The analogy fails because in Caesar's time crossing the Rubicin with an army was one of the acts defined as treason. The wingnuts haze already committed that crime when they crossed the "Rubicon" at the gates of the Capitol.
 
Yes he has. It's the most dangerous piece of legislation yet written and if passed (it won't) it will end the Republic. Predictive, not advocacy.

I can see why the Republicans fear it -- it fights back against the Citizen's United big-money atrocity and sets up uniform redistricting panels in every state.
 
Not trying to inflame here. I disagree with the bill, but it's the bill itself which is doing the inflaming. It will shatter any R confidence in the election system. If we don't have confidence in the election system, where does it go from there? Sounds to me like you are making a prediction as well and connecting that logical loop.

My message is simple: if HR1 were to pass it would destroy whatever confidence the Rs have left in the election system.
Nope. The war analogy was yours. You did the inflaming.

Stop it. No more "civil war is coming" garbage.

Time to act like an adult.
 
Not trying to inflame here. I disagree with the bill, but it's the bill itself which is doing the inflaming. It will shatter any R confidence in the election system. If we don't have confidence in the election system, where does it go from there? Sounds to me like you are making a prediction as well and connecting that logical loop.

My message is simple: if HR1 were to pass it would destroy whatever confidence the Rs have left in the election system.

Nonsense.
 
Nope. The war analogy was yours. You did the inflaming.

Stop it. No more "civil war is coming" garbage.

Time to act like an adult.

You really don't like hearing the bad news, huh? You gonna put your head in the sand on this too like you did with California's restrictions and masks will contain COVID?

Yeah, it's coming if things continue the way they've been going. You think a mob seizing the Capitol would have convinced you of the seriousness of the situation, not to mention the ongoing military presence in Washington.

They said the same thing about the people who warned WWII was coming. "Oh no, that Hitler's a nice man. He just wants to unite all the Germans in one country. Nothing more will happen when he takes Austria."

Time to grow up and face the reality, or a nasty surprise will be lurking for you a couple years down the road.
 
I can see why the Republicans fear it -- it fights back against the Citizen's United big-money atrocity and sets up uniform redistricting panels in every state.

It also makes everywhere pretty much Pennsylvania in the last elections....

The irony of Citizen's United, BTW, is that big money is now on the D's side. Who could have seen that coming, huh?
 
You really don't like hearing the bad news, huh? You gonna put your head in the sand on this too like you did with California's restrictions and masks will contain COVID?

Yeah, it's coming if things continue the way they've been going. You think a mob seizing the Capitol would have convinced you of the seriousness of the situation, not to mention the ongoing military presence in Washington.

They said the same thing about the people who warned WWII was coming. "Oh no, that Hitler's a nice man. He just wants to unite all the Germans in one country. Nothing more will happen when he takes Austria."

Time to grow up and face the reality, or a nasty surprise will be lurking for you a couple years down the road.
Arguing against a bad law is fine.

Can you do that without call to arms? No Hitler references, no military analogies, no warnings that we all will be sent to re-education camps.

Just a calm explanation why this law or that law is a bad idea.

You know, discussing ideas like adults.
 
Arguing against a bad law is fine.

Can you do that without call to arms? No Hitler references, no military analogies, no warnings that we all will be sent to re-education camps.

Just a calm explanation why this law or that law is a bad idea.

You know, discussing ideas like adults.

Why is your impetus always to censor? You really have a tyrannical streak in you.

I'm not calling anybody to arms. I'm warning about a very dangerous situation (the same way I did before the Capitol and COVID BTW).

Why is it you always have a tendency to get nasty whenever you hear something you really don't like? Most of the time you are really mellow, cool and I love your opinions, but then you get in this mode and it's bad dad again. "LALALALA....I don't want to hear it......LALALALA.....don't say it."

Adults, BTW, don't tell other adults how to say things because they think they know better.
 
You really don't like hearing the bad news, huh? You gonna put your head in the sand on this too like you did with California's restrictions and masks will contain COVID?

Yeah, it's coming if things continue the way they've been going. You think a mob seizing the Capitol would have convinced you of the seriousness of the situation, not to mention the ongoing military presence in Washington.

They said the same thing about the people who warned WWII was coming. "Oh no, that Hitler's a nice man. He just wants to unite all the Germans in one country. Nothing more will happen when he takes Austria."

Time to grow up and face the reality, or a nasty surprise will be lurking for you a couple years down the road.

Coocoo.

You're really outdoing yourself tonight.
 
It also makes everywhere pretty much Pennsylvania in the last elections....

The irony of Citizen's United, BTW, is that big money is now on the D's side. Who could have seen that coming, huh?

You will have to explain the Pennsylvania reference -- we can't read your mind.

Unregulated big money in politics is an atrocity either way.
 
Why is your impetus always to censor? You really have a tyrannical streak in you.

I'm not calling anybody to arms. I'm warning about a very dangerous situation (the same way I did before the Capitol and COVID BTW).

Why is it you always have a tendency to get nasty whenever you hear something you really don't like? Most of the time you are really mellow, cool and I love your opinions, but then you get in this mode and it's bad dad again. "LALALALA....I don't want to hear it......LALALALA.....don't say it."

Adults, BTW, don't tell other adults how to say things because they think they know better.

Suggesting you act like an adult is censoring?

The real weakness in your juvenile outburst is that everyone can read the Bill on their own and don't have to depend on what someone told them how Tucker is shading it.
 
That evasive habit of yours always makes your arguments look weak.

Why do I care? This isn't a contest. It's not even an argument, but a prediction. Believe my warning, or not (same as COVID.....wasn't you but someone told me "naw, they'll never cancel MIC...too much money at stake").

I only know I can never beat in you in a cuteness contest. Your little yellow car and that chicken on your head are just too priceless.
 
Suggesting you act like an adult is censoring?

The real weakness in your juvenile outburst is that everyone can read the Bill on their own and don't have to depend on what someone told them how Tucker is shading it.

Naw, it's the don't say it please which is dad's tendency to censor. Same way he didn't think negative mask discussion was useful.

Hey people should read the bill....on that we agree.....the more people that read it the better. I'd urge them to read it.
 
Why is your impetus always to censor? You really have a tyrannical streak in you.

I'm not calling anybody to arms. I'm warning about a very dangerous situation (the same way I did before the Capitol and COVID BTW).

Why is it you always have a tendency to get nasty whenever you hear something you really don't like? Most of the time you are really mellow, cool and I love your opinions, but then you get in this mode and it's bad dad again. "LALALALA....I don't want to hear it......LALALALA.....don't say it."

Adults, BTW, don't tell other adults how to say things because they think they know better.
It is a wink and a nod exhortation, and a very old trick.

Don't encourage violence. Just say that things are bad and violence is coming. Use words like "people will be very angry. They'll fight.". Normalize violence without ever quite endorsing it. That way, when violence comes, you can pretend you never encouraged it.

But I like my non violent world. Therefore, when you or EOTL use this tactic, I am going to call each of you on your respective bullshit.

Peace.
 
Naw, it's the don't say it please which is dad's tendency to censor. Same way he didn't think negative mask discussion was useful.

Hey people should read the bill....on that we agree.....the more people that read it the better. I'd urge them to read it.

I will assume you have read the bill, then. Where is the part about "No signatures for absentee ballot"?
 
It is a wink and a nod exhortation, and a very old trick.

Don't encourage violence. Just say that things are bad and violence is coming. Use words like "people will be very angry. They'll fight.". Normalize violence without ever quite endorsing it. That way, when violence comes, you can pretend you never encouraged it.

But I like my non violent world. Therefore, when you or EOTL use this tactic, I am going to call each of you on your respective bullshit.

Peace.

You're implying bad faith implications on something which I'm raising a concern about. Your BS tactic is the same thing the appeasers did before WWII and later they had blood on their hands because they weren't ready. I'm calling you out now on your tyrannical tendencies to censor and bad faith interpretations of my motives, not to mention your arrogant condescending attitude that isn't "adult" at all, but rather a teacher who thinks he's lecturing students. Compare our two track records....everyone knows you've been wrong about everything having to do with COVID.
 
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