President Joe Biden

You're implying bad faith implications on something which I'm raising a concern about. Your BS tactic is the same thing the appeasers did before WWII and later they had blood on their hands because they weren't ready. I'm calling you out now on your tyrannical tendencies to censor and bad faith interpretations of my motives, not to mention your arrogant condescending attitude that isn't "adult" at all, but rather a teacher who thinks he's lecturing students. Compare our two track records....everyone knows you've been wrong about everything having to do with COVID.

Nonsense.
 
I will assume you have read the bill, then. Where is the part about "No signatures for absentee ballot"?
It's in 1621. Signatures are permitted but only on certain due process conditions. The conditions are so severe however, and the lawsuits it opens up for discounted ballots and challenging state procedures, that the end result will be no signature verification for absentee ballots
 
You're implying bad faith implications on something which I'm raising a concern about. Your BS tactic is the same thing the appeasers did before WWII and later they had blood on their hands because they weren't ready. I'm calling you out now on your tyrannical tendencies to censor and bad faith interpretations of my motives, not to mention your arrogant condescending attitude that isn't "adult" at all, but rather a teacher who thinks he's lecturing students. Compare our two track records....everyone knows you've been wrong about everything having to do with COVID.
And there is the second Hitler reference.

As always, a Hitler reference is a sign that the rest of the argument is not worth listening to.
 
It's in 1621. Signatures are permitted but only on certain due process conditions. The conditions are so severe however, and the lawsuits it opens up for discounted ballots and challenging state procedures, that the end result will be no signature verification for absentee ballots
Much better.

Logical, specific, on target, and no Hitler reference.
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And there is the second Hitler reference.

As always, a Hitler reference is a sign that the rest of the argument is not worth listening to.

So no Caesar reference, no Hitler references. How about a Catherine the Great reference? What of Catherine had she put her fingers in her ears and not listened that her husband was about to throw her in prison?
 
Much better.

Logical, specific, on target, and no Hitler reference.

Thanks teach. Like not getting my paper back with red circles. Can you be any more condescending?

Seriously, I've made a sincere effort recently to treat you with civility and respect. Now you go off the rails again? What's with you? You are smart guy and better than this. Better than the rude, nasty condescending guy that shows up from time to time.
 
It's in 1621. Signatures are permitted but only on certain due process conditions. The conditions are so severe however, and the lawsuits it opens up for discounted ballots and challenging state procedures, that the end result will be no signature verification for absentee ballots

Your analysis does not match the actual wording of the Bill.
 
Thanks teach. Like not getting my paper back with red circles. Can you be any more condescending?

Seriously, I've made a sincere effort recently to treat you with civility and respect. Now you go off the rails again? What's with you? You are smart guy and better than this. Better than the rude, nasty condescending guy that shows up from time to time.
I was completely serious when I said I found certain language to be encouraging more divisiveness and violence.

We don't need more of that. This last year has been awful on both sides.

Chances are, I probably agree with you on HR1.

But there is a way to express it, and it does not include violent imagery.
 
I was completely serious when I said I found certain language to be encouraging more divisiveness and violence.

We don't need more of that. This last year has been awful on both sides.

Chances are, I probably agree with you on HR1.

But there is a way to express it, and it does not include violent imagery.

But that's the nature of a warning. If we continue to go down this road (by the actions of BOTH political parties), there's going to be bad things happen. We have to be very clear about what the consequences are if we stumble into it, and ignoring that reality isn't doing anyone any favors....it only makes an accidental trigger even more likely because no one is ready for it (just like no one was ready for what happened at the Capitol because they didn't think it could happen). I'm just approaching this like an adult, and treating you as one, by saying "look this is what's at stake here" instead of a child and saying "let's shield you from the harsh realities of the world".

I wish you would be honest with yourself that there are certain things you don't like to look at. This isn't the first time you've done this.
 

This discussion, to make sense and not have you get lost again (you came awful close to running into that roller coaster). When the pandemic is over I'm happy to meet with you and give you one. My fee for first year is $150K. We will begin with the hairy hand. I'm sure dad will be very jealous because I'll get to hand out a grade to you.
 
But that's the nature of a warning. If we continue to go down this road (by the actions of BOTH political parties), there's going to be bad things happen. We have to be very clear about what the consequences are if we stumble into it, and ignoring that reality isn't doing anyone any favors....it only makes an accidental trigger even more likely because no one is ready for it (just like no one was ready for what happened at the Capitol because they didn't think it could happen). I'm just approaching this like an adult, and treating you as one, by saying "look this is what's at stake here" instead of a child and saying "let's shield you from the harsh realities of the world".

I wish you would be honest with yourself that there are certain things you don't like to look at. This isn't the first time you've done this.

Here's an example of the Rs getting hoisted on their own petards with norm smashing. Norm smashing is not good. It undermines the pillars supporting the Republic.

 
This discussion, to make sense and not have you get lost again (you came awful close to running into that roller coaster). When the pandemic is over I'm happy to meet with you and give you one. My fee for first year is $150K. We will begin with the hairy hand. I'm sure dad will be very jealous because I'll get to hand out a grade to you.

Bullshit evasion.
 
Bullshit evasion.

I gave you the summary. You're the one that wants the freebie (or more likely get me to waste my time since nothing I can ever say will ever convince you).

That's the fundamental distinction, BTW, of my distinction between dad and you. I at least respect him. You, not so much...which is a shame because you aren't a dumb dumb and occasionally have something interesting and of relevance to say.
 
I gave you the summary. You're the one that wants the freebie (or more likely get me to waste my time since nothing I can ever say will ever convince you).

That's the fundamental distinction, BTW, of my distinction between dad and you. I at least respect him. You, not so much...which is a shame because you aren't a dumb dumb and occasionally have something interesting and of relevance to say.

You gave an opinion. When I pointed out that your opinion is not supported by the words in the Bill, you got evasive.

Here is my opinion -- after I pointed out your error, you took the time to read the relevant sections of the Bill (and not just some wingnut fantasy about the Bill) and realized your error. From that point on, you became evasive.
 
You gave an opinion. When I pointed out that your opinion is not supported by the words in the Bill, you got evasive.

Here is my opinion -- after I pointed out your error, you took the time to read the relevant sections of the Bill (and not just some wingnut fantasy about the Bill) and realized your error. From that point on, you became evasive.

No I just don't want to go down another rabbit hole with you. It's not worth it.

Let's review the original point. HR1 is divisive and will destroy what remains of Republican faith in elections (which dad extrapolated to more violence).

The only thing you need to understand that is to watch the tucker carlson interpretation (because the rest is irrelevant unless you can advance an alternate interpretation of how the Rs will react to it), It's here.

If you paid more attention to the road, you'd go into fewer roller coasters

 
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