President Joe Biden

Appeasing and downplaying a group that tried to overthrow the government - a group that you support with your votes - is the real problem. You seem to think it’s no big deal and want to pretend everything is fine so you can get back to supporting those who foster hateful policies and behavior that you “tolerate” so you can support the hateful policies that you love

As with other apologists, you fail or refuse to accept that the problem is not what, happened, but why. You focus on the incompetence (this time) of the effort. It is the “why” that is important, however. It happened because a large number of Americans are weak-minded fools who have been deluded into believing anything the Bronze Baboon says, and an even greater number of people like you understand that you need the insurrectionists, white supremacists, homophobes, anti-semites and corrupt conmen as elected officials, if you’re going to have any chance of preventing someone from exercising their right to choose.

The Republican party has turned into the party of everything hateful and crazy by virtue of the fact that this is what’s necessary to get enough votes.Y’all tolerate and minimize what is in your party, as well as their impact, because you don’t want to admit that you created Frankenstein and lost control of him.

Exhibit A:

 
Appeasing and downplaying a group that tried to overthrow the government - a group that you support with your votes - is the real problem. You seem to think it’s no big deal and want to pretend everything is fine so you can get back to supporting those who foster hateful policies and behavior that you “tolerate” so you can support the hateful policies that you love

As with other apologists, you fail or refuse to accept that the problem is not what, happened, but why. You focus on the incompetence (this time) of the effort. It is the “why” that is important, however. It happened because a large number of Americans are weak-minded fools who have been deluded into believing anything the Bronze Baboon says, and an even greater number of people like you understand that you need the insurrectionists, white supremacists, homophobes, anti-semites and corrupt conmen as elected officials, if you’re going to have any chance of preventing someone from exercising their right to choose.

The Republican party has turned into the party of everything hateful and crazy by virtue of the fact that this is what’s necessary to get enough votes.Y’all tolerate and minimize what is in your party, as well as their impact, because you don’t want to admit that you created Frankenstein and lost control of him.
ahhhh :rolleyes: . Wipe the froth off of your chin, it's unbecoming. My post had nothing to do with your orange kin that you hate so much. Left and Right wing groups were here before your self created marmalade deity was around, and they'll be here long after he's gone. For now, continue to focus your efforts and time on the object of your desire. Nice job on avoiding the T word though. You are showing progress. You've gone from being situationally aware to situationally understanding your surroundings. Can't ask for more.

carry on.
 
ahhhh :rolleyes: . Wipe the froth off of your chin, it's unbecoming. My post had nothing to do with your orange kin that you hate so much. Left and Right wing groups were here before your self created marmalade deity was around, and they'll be here long after he's gone. For now, continue to focus your efforts and time on the object of your desire. Nice job on avoiding the T word though. You are showing progress. You've gone from being situationally aware to situationally understanding your surroundings. Can't ask for more.

carry on.

Only one group in history has stormed the Capitol in an insurrection intended to overthrow the government of the U.S. It happens to be the side you support with your vote and your apologies. You know, it’s the one with the trumpanzees.
 
You attempt to be the master of twisting words. I have said eleventy billion times I am one of those lovely libtards that so many on this thread talk about. Why the hell would I defend Trump? I'm just not interested in beating a dead ass horse carcass. Like seriously-listening to you attemp these verbal gymnastics is almost comical. Don't confuse me with someone who won't take you to task.
You don't strike me as a "libtard", whatever that means exactly. My impression is that you're a common sense, left leaning moderate.
 
Only one group in history has stormed the Capitol in an insurrection intended to overthrow the government of the U.S. It happens to be the side you support with your vote and your apologies. You know, it’s the one with the trumpanzees.

Continuing to push for ‘Unity’ are you?
 
Only one group in history has stormed the Capitol in an insurrection intended to overthrow the government of the U.S. It happens to be the side you support with your vote and your apologies. You know, it’s the one with the trumpanzees.
Which group did that?
 
The force is not strong with him. He provides much needed breaks from legit intellectual activities throughout the day. A service he dutifully provides.

Your trumpanzee ways do not bother me. To the contrary, they have freed me from the shackles of decency, empathy and decorum that has never existed with you magats. So much fun.
 
Which group did that?
History is not a strong point for him.

On July 2, 1915, a former German professor at Harvard, Erich Muenter, planted a package containing three sticks of dynamite in the Capitol near the Senate Reception room. The explosive detonated around midnight and during a time when the Senate had been on recess. An on-duty Capitol Police officer was nearly knocked out of his chair during the blast, but fortunately no one was injured.

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On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican Americans fired guns in the House of Representatives, injuring five congressmen. The attackers said they acted to demand independence for the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico. (Puerto Ricans have U.S. citizenship but can’t vote for president and have no voting representatives in Congress.) The injured congressmen survived, and the four shooters received prison sentences. President Jimmy Carter commuted one of their sentences in 1977, and granted clemency to the other three in 1979.

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On March 1, 1971, a bomb exploded in the Capitol building. While the explosion did not injure anyone, it caused some $300,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Weather Underground claimed to be behind the bombing and said it was in protest of the ongoing U.S.-supported bombing of Laos.

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Thirteen years later, on November 7, 1983, a bomb tore through the second floor of the Senate wing of the Capitol. The device detonated late in the evening and no one was harmed, but it caused an estimated $250,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit later claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was in retaliation for military actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were eventually arrested in connection with the attack.

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Political causes aside, individuals have committed acts of violence on Capitol grounds through the decades. These incidents include an 1890 fatal shooting sparked by a feud between a reporter and a former congressman and a 1998 fatal shooting of two Capitol Police officers in 1998 by a man who claimed the U.S. was plagued by cannibalism and a fictional disease.

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If you have facts to counter my position, now is your opportunity to present them. Simply repeating your opinions is pointless.

That's how civilized discussions work.

The facts are on the same site YOU referenced. If you want to be learned, you’ll invest the 5 minutes. Nobody is paying me to educate you.
 
History....How quickly people for get. Granted this was all of 10 yrs ago so maybe that is an excuse for not remembering. But then again it is interesting to see how many people forgot about the rioting over the summer and the comments Dem leaders and the press had at the time which were very supportive. Today? Well since the other side had some people do it, it is beyond the pale and somehow reflects on all Rs...despite the fact that all the R leaders have condemned this violence.

Lets do a consistency check real fast.

Summer riots. Dems generally supportive of it. See statements by Pelosi and Harris as just some examples. The Rs? Condemned the violent parts of the protests.
Last week? Dems condemn the violence as did the Rs.
Which group has been consistent in their condemnation of riots? Which group was not when some members of their base were rioting?

Anyway lets go down memory lane....

“Thousands of protesters rushed to the … Capitol Wednesday night, forcing their way through doors, crawling through windows and jamming corridors.” That is how one newspaper described the storming of the Capitol — not the one in Washington last week, but the state Capitol in Madison, Wis., a decade ago.

Back then, thousands of pro-union activists — many bused in from out of state — rampaged through the historic building in an effort to stop a vote on collective bargaining reform legislation. So, when I saw the images of a pro-Trump mob rampaging through the U.S. Capitol last week, my first thought was: What is Scott Walker thinking right now?
“It’s like I’m having PTSD from a decade ago,” the former Republican governor of Wisconsin texted me.

Most conservatives have condemned the right-wing mob that assaulted the U.S. Capitol. But 10 years ago, Democrats embraced the left-wing mob that occupied the state Capitol in Madison. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) praised the occupiers for an “impressive show of democracy in action” and tweeted as they assaulted the Capitol that she continued “to stand in solidarity” with the union activists. In other words, Democrats were for occupying capitols before they were against it."

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“Standing on the capitol steps at dusk, [Secretary of Administration] Mike Huebsch watched as an army of thousands formed on State Street and began marching toward him,” we wrote. “Soon they had descended on the building, banging on the doors and windows, chanting, ‘Let us in! Let us in!’ The small contingent of capitol police was quickly overwhelmed. Protesters ripped the hinges of an antique oak door at the State Street entrance and streamed inside. Mike watched in disbelief as the window to Democratic Representative Cory Mason’s office opened right in front of him and protesters began crawling into the building. Once inside, they began unlocking doors and bathroom windows until a sea of thousands had flooded the capitol.”
The police retreated in the face of the horde, giving up the first floor, then the second. “The protesters ran amok, chanting ‘This is our house!’ and ‘This is what democracy looks like!’ ” we wrote. “And they then began searching for the Republican senators who had dared to defy the will of the unions.” As the crowd scoured the building looking for the offending legislators, police sneaked them out through an underground tunnel to a government building across the street. But a Democratic representative posted on social media that the Republican senators were escaping through the tunnels, so when the senators came up into the lobby, the mob was there waiting for them.

“The tall windows that framed the lobby were plastered with people yelling and banging on the glass,” we wrote. “They were trapped. The senators hid under a stairwell, out of view, while the police ordered a city bus to pull up in front of the building. Officers then formed a human wall on the sidewalk, parting the sea of protesters and creating a pathway for the senators to reach the bus.” Once the senators were on board, “the mob on the street began punching the windows and shaking the vehicle. … The police told the senators and staff inside to keep their heads down in case a window shattered.”

Thankfully, no one was killed. But during the course of the occupation, Walker received a steady stream of death threats against him and his wife, including one that promised to “gut her like a deer” and one threatening to kill his sons. Police found dozens of .22-caliber bullets scattered across the Capitol grounds. The occupiers drew chalk outlines of fake dead bodies etched with Walker’s name on the floor, and carried signs that read “Death to tyrants,” “The only good Republican is a dead Republican” and one with picture of him in crosshairs with the words, “Don’t retreat, Reload.”
 
History is not a strong point for him.

On July 2, 1915, a former German professor at Harvard, Erich Muenter, planted a package containing three sticks of dynamite in the Capitol near the Senate Reception room. The explosive detonated around midnight and during a time when the Senate had been on recess. An on-duty Capitol Police officer was nearly knocked out of his chair during the blast, but fortunately no one was injured.

--

On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican Americans fired guns in the House of Representatives, injuring five congressmen. The attackers said they acted to demand independence for the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico. (Puerto Ricans have U.S. citizenship but can’t vote for president and have no voting representatives in Congress.) The injured congressmen survived, and the four shooters received prison sentences. President Jimmy Carter commuted one of their sentences in 1977, and granted clemency to the other three in 1979.

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On March 1, 1971, a bomb exploded in the Capitol building. While the explosion did not injure anyone, it caused some $300,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Weather Underground claimed to be behind the bombing and said it was in protest of the ongoing U.S.-supported bombing of Laos.

--

Thirteen years later, on November 7, 1983, a bomb tore through the second floor of the Senate wing of the Capitol. The device detonated late in the evening and no one was harmed, but it caused an estimated $250,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit later claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was in retaliation for military actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were eventually arrested in connection with the attack.

--

Political causes aside, individuals have committed acts of violence on Capitol grounds through the decades. These incidents include an 1890 fatal shooting sparked by a feud between a reporter and a former congressman and a 1998 fatal shooting of two Capitol Police officers in 1998 by a man who claimed the U.S. was plagued by cannibalism and a fictional disease.

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Such false equivalencies. Apologist.
 
Osama Bin Laden didn't fly the planes.

Your best buddy calls that a straw man argument. You clowns have bitched about everything Trump has said or done for 4 years. It’s personal for you. TDS. I thought Obama was worthless but I can find good things to say about him. For example, he was a charismatic speaker. Lots of flair. And like every other liberal, he talked a good game and accomplished jack shit in 8 years.
 
Excerpt from the official Pentaon transcript of the Acting Secretary of Defense at today's press conference --

"I’m not…I…that investment, for…that capability, that we’re never supposed to use, ‘well, we have to deter, blah blah bluh blah…Are we fifth generation? You know we…I think it’s hilarious, you know, right now, you know, ‘well we need to invest in the sixth generation,’ I’m like, we have created a monster, but you know that."
 
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