President Joe Biden

[Grace T.]

It would have been cleaner if you simply admitted you were wrong rather than just cluelessly demonstrating it.

nonsense

 

[Glitterhater]

The thing I can't shake though is imagine what would've happened if the mob at the capitol managed to reach our senators. I have zero doubts there would've been some kind of hostage situation and potentially significant human death toll. I really can't imagine what those folks were going through. They surely were fearing for their lives.

I have gone down the Twitter rabbit hole alot more than is probably healthy for my sanity since all this happened. There are numerous videos of these people (people is being kind,) saying they want to find Pence to "hang" him, and kill Pelosi.

For whatever reason, this group concerns me more than any set of protestors thus far.

 

[EOTL]

I'll give you 1/2 an originality point for using a color other than orange.

I know you think you're performing a valuable public service by pointing out the racists on this board, but have you thought about doing something substantive to help minorities? I know a lot of great organizations if you need some suggestions.

Thanks I’m good. Ridding the SoCal youth soccer community of bigots and seditionists is not my only public service.

 

[EOTL]

nonsense

Hey Karen Grace, do you think a trumpanzee boycott of Amazon because it shut down Parler will hurt Bezos’ bottom line? Amazon doesn’t sell AR-15s, smokes, or meth, so I’m thinking no.

 

[Grace T.]

For whatever reason, this group concerns me more than any set of protestors thus far.

here’s the counter:

1. Antifa is smarter. Their organization (which they manage to keep diffuse), tactics, recruitment is just better. An antifa organizer outclasses these nut bags any day of the week while high.

2. the ones that did it are idiots. A more serious competent group of terrorist would have gone in guns blazing and wouldn’t have surrendered when the police ordered them to withdraw. For those that were really planning a coup there hasn’t been a more poorly organized attempt since the beer hall putsch. The fact they were able to get in there speaks to the level of incompetence of capitol security more than the master mindset of there idiots and weekend camouflage warriors.

 

[NorCalDad]

I have gone down the Twitter rabbit hole alot more than is probably healthy for my sanity since all this happened. There are numerous videos of these people (people is being kind,) saying they want to find Pence to "hang" him, and kill Pelosi.

For whatever reason, this group concerns me more than any set of protestors thus far.

That's precisely my reaction. One of the dudes had zip tie handcuffs. Mix that all in with the pipe bombs and other explosives, things could've been a ton worse. It's like 40k Timothy McVeighs. Still blows my mind that the entirety of the GOP doesn't separate themselves from these people.

 

[watfly]

Thanks I’m good. Ridding the SoCal youth soccer community of bigots and seditionists is not my only public service.

Do tell. Your not one to normally hold back.

 

[espola]

nonsense

You had no source and suggested I should do your work for you.

 

[Grace T.]

You had no source and suggested I should do your work for you.

I told you to read ngos book on the subject

 

[NorCalDad]

here’s the counter:

1. Antifa is smarter. Their organization (which they manage to keep diffuse), tactics, recruitment is just better. An antifa organizer outclasses these nut bags any day of the week while high.

2. the ones that did it are idiots. A more serious competent group of terrorist would have gone in guns blazing and wouldn’t have surrendered when the police ordered them to withdraw. For those that were really planning a coup there hasn’t been a more poorly organized attempt since the beer hall putsch. The fact they were able to get in there speaks to the level of incompetence of capitol security more than the master mindset of there idiots and weekend camouflage warriors.

I mean it's not like they needed to be seal team six to get in there. Just bum rushing it got them in there.

Antifa (if it's actually a "group") just doesn't have the numbers. You have millions of these people following trump.

I absolutely fear these crazy Trumpists more than anyone related to antifa. I mean christ, they were convinced to take over the capitol. That's friggin nuts. I mean throw in the fact that many of them were white nationalists/supremacists/neo-nazis.

 

[espola]

here’s the counter:

1. Antifa is smarter. Their organization (which they manage to keep diffuse), tactics, recruitment is just better. An antifa organizer outclasses these nut bags any day of the week while high.

2. the ones that did it are idiots. A more serious competent group of terrorist would have gone in guns blazing and wouldn’t have surrendered when the police ordered them to withdraw. For those that were really planning a coup there hasn’t been a more poorly organized attempt since the beer hall putsch. The fact they were able to get in there speaks to the level of incompetence of capitol security more than the master mindset of there idiots and weekend camouflage warriors.

What about Cruz and Hawley and Rudy?

 

[Grace T.]

I mean it's not like they needed to be seal team six to get in there. Just bum rushing it got them in there.

Antifa (if it's actually a "group") just doesn't have the numbers. You have millions of these people following trump.

I absolutely fear these crazy Trumpists more than anyone related to antifa. I mean christ, they were convinced to take over the capitol. That's friggin nuts. I mean throw in the fact that many of them were white nationalists/supremacists/neo-nazis.

Just under half the country voted for trunk. Holding them all to the same standard? Gonna hold every democrat who supported the peaceful blm marches for Antifa terrorism? If you really feel this way maybe you should start advocating for a peaceful separation

 

[espola]

I told you to read ngos book on the subject

I asked for a credible source.

 

[Grace T.]

I asked for a credible source.

And there are your true colors. Nice to know where you stand...one of the bad guys

 

[espola]

And there are your true colors. Nice to know where you stand...one of the bad guys

My true colors are red, white, and blue (with a touch of green).

What does "one of the bad guys" mean? Is it because I can see through Proud-Boy-wannabe Ngo's BS?

 

[Grace T.]

What about Cruz and Hawley and Rudy?

neither Cruz nor Hawley advocated for the violent overthrow Of the us government, did not condone the takeover, and when they came didn’t join them to overthrow the government.I’mlong time acquaintance of Ted but have never been a fan. Your statement is bulls—-

as Rudy his legal results speak for themselves

 

[Grace T.]

My true colors are red, white, and blue (with a touch of green).

What does "one of the bad guys" mean? Is it because I can see through Proud-Boy-wannabe Ngo's BS?

from the sound of it your colors are red and black. At least you are willing to add a splash every once in a while. So transparent

 

[NorCalDad]

im not going down the dark web to pull that research for you. If you are interested read their books or follow their Twitter. Andy ngos work is pretty good on the subject to. One of the pillars of their philosophy is anarchy (one of the flags in their logo) the other is communism (the other flag in their logo). Not saying all Antifa is dedicated to violent revolution but many of them are. This is pretty self evident stuff and if you are being deliberately opaque then it’s clear where your sympathies lie.

I had to look up Andy Ngo -- his name was super familiar to me. Not diverge from this discussion, but Andy is a nutjob. Pretty sure I'd take everything he says/writes with a grain of salt.

 

[NorCalDad]

Just under half the country voted for trunk. Holding them all to the same standard? Gonna hold every democrat who supported the peaceful blm marches for Antifa terrorism? If you really feel this way maybe you should start advocating for a peaceful separation

Not sure I follow. Are you asking if I am putting everyone that voted for Trump in the crazy category? I never sad that. The point I was trying to make was that the crazy trumpists outnumber antifa by a mile.

 

[Grace T.]

I had to look up Andy Ngo -- his name was super familiar to me. Not diverge from this discussion, but Andy is a nutjob. Pretty sure I'd take everything he says/writes with a grain of salt.

I’d say the same thing about Chris cuomo

his reporting though is pretty fair. He’s interested in domestic terror groups generally Contrary to espolas remarks, he’s reported on the proud boy violence and most recently has been debunking the capitol takeover was really Antifa (there were a couple of Antifa agitators mixed in there that he’s identified but it’s just a mere handful...this was entirely a right wing led thing)